Lie. Simple as that, if they're physically and mentally beating you down then I don't think a little manipulation on your part will cause a massive loss in karma
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The problem is that most of the beatings happened a while ago, and I'm not sure anybody I know would really vouch for me in a court of law.kebab4you said:Call the police about that beating as a kid and now? From your description your father sounds like he should be in jail or at least at some kind of rehab.
However all I could think of is that you apologies and put up with them until you got your PhD.
When I was eight, I got beat when I tried to help my dad wash his car, and I accidentally got him wet with the hose. I'd really appreciate it if you didn't downplay my childhood by telling me that I was a spoiled teenager.Sober Thal said:At least I didn't tell him to 'take it like a *****'. Actually, after reading your post, did you really say something different from what I did?Cowabungaa said:In this case it really doesn't matter who's right. Just apologize, take it like a ***** for your future's sake. I'm suprised he's actually still willing to pay for your college. Do that until you find a way to support yourself either in or after college, then just never contact your parents again.
Way to go, he alread said he's been abused for years.Sober Thal said:Teenagers never know how great they have it. They talk back, get a beat down, then think their parents are bad.
Yeah, I didn't talk his problems down like you did, didn't basically call him a spoiled teenager. And taking it like a ***** isn't that much of a bad thing in this case. It's a typical dilemma, with 2 shitty options. I just say that taking it like a ***** and putting up with them for a few years is the least shitty option, especially if he's going for a History PhD which I doubt has a bright career future. I wouldn't take loans if I wasn't studying a field with good career prospectives.Sober Thal said:At least I didn't tell him to 'take it like a *****'. Actually, after reading your post, did you really say something different from what I did?
I am agreeing with this. I've been told to say I was sorry when I wasn't and it stinks for decades afterwards if you care about your own integrity and honesty. Going back to them would be debasing yourself, quite the opposite of a lot of what you want to achieve at college.Sgt. Sykes said:No, I wouldn't return to parents which beat me. Actually, I'd sue them in your place. Actually actually, depending on the laws in your country, they might even be obligated to pay you for college.
Abusive spouses and parents (and let's just bear in mind the father in this case could be abusing the mother too and she's passing that abuse on to the son or adding her own, one way or another) do a lot of promising and being disappointed and changing their minds. "Sometimes I worry about you, Beverly. Sometimes I worry a lot." - Alvin MarshCowabungaa said:I'm suprised he's actually still willing to pay for your college.
Because being physically beaten is the way most parents show their love right? Shut up.Sober Thal said:Teenagers never know how great they have it. They talk back, get a beat down, then think their parents are bad.
I'll have to agree with this. It may be hard to fake an apology to someone who has treated you so badly, but then remember how much of his money you'll be spending on your education. That would make me happy at least.Tarkinor said:If you ask me, fake the apology, then when you land a successful job and have everything going well, rub it in their faces. If they need help, don't give it to them.
It wasn't the worst beating I got, but, afterwards, I had a nosebleed and a headache. It was just the first example that I could come up with, especially since (these days) they lecture me about how I don't help out around the house and how I don't show my gratitude at all by doing stuff with them.Sober Thal said:If you don't appreciate my posts, just ignore me. I will not quote you anymore after this. To explain my first post further tho:thevillageidiot13 said:When I was eight, I got beat when I tried to help my dad wash his car, and I accidentally got him wet with the hose. I'd really appreciate it if you didn't downplay my childhood by telling me that I was a spoiled teenager.Sober Thal said:At least I didn't tell him to 'take it like a *****'. Actually, after reading your post, did you really say something different from what I did?Cowabungaa said:In this case it really doesn't matter who's right. Just apologize, take it like a ***** for your future's sake. I'm suprised he's actually still willing to pay for your college. Do that until you find a way to support yourself either in or after college, then just never contact your parents again.
Way to go, he alread said he's been abused for years.Sober Thal said:Teenagers never know how great they have it. They talk back, get a beat down, then think their parents are bad.
I call anyone who has their parents pay for their college education spoiled. It's not an insult, just a commentary on upbringing. Every child should be that lucky.
Since you bring it up tho, what do you consider 'I got beat' to mean?
We don't know enough about the situation to say anything like that for sure. And no matter how unruly your child is, there is no excuse to beat them. I'm all for spanking young kids, but if his father actually beat him down, this is not okay. And not ALL teenagers are these unruly hellions people like to think they are. I've known plenty of people whose parents were shitty, to say the least. This could just as easily be a case of an abusive father as an unruly ungrateful brat of a kid. And considering the description of the mother, I'm tempted to say it's an abusive father. But without a description of the event in question, we can't really say.Sober Thal said:Teenagers never know how great they have it. They talk back, get a beat down, then think their parents are bad.thevillageidiot13 said:Hey. Basically, my parents and I have never really gotten along. Growing up, I got beaten and verbally abused and just generally made to feel like shit all the time. After a year of college, I moved back in for summer. I managed to put up with my parents for about two months, then my dad and I got into a fight and I got beat down (physically). I moved out, and now, my parents have given me an ultimatum: apologize or lose the money I need for college.
I need input, experience, advice, and insight. Thanks.
When in reality...
You are among the lucky few who have parents who care enough to support you through your teen years, then afford to send you to college. Don't blow this great opportunity. Suck it up, go against your supposed morals, and endure your unique opportunity to be able have a free ride into higher learning. After you become an independent adult, you can refuse to accept their support. Until then, play by their rules, and don't rock the boat.
Or you could just face real life solo now and regret what could have been.
Ok you are a smart kid, you got physically beat down? Same thing happened when you were a child, Thats child abuse, "Hey mom and dad, I have an idea. Pay for college like the binding verbal agreement we came to, or I sue you/ call the cops for domestic abuse and violence" If you know you are in the right, Fight fire with...water.thevillageidiot13 said:I have a 3.95 GPA