My science teacher is kinda stupid.

[Rayne870]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

doesn't this make her unfit to teach science?

 

[Gitty101]

Don't feed the trolls. This one escaped the flame-barrier...

 

[Kakashi on crack]

Also hasn't it been proven that the theory of evolution and religion can easily co-exist in harmony?

I mean seriously. With a very mild modification to how you view the whole adam and eve thing, you could say that evolution co-exists with religion quite easily.

 

[trollax]

She doesn't want to even teach science.Became of this chapter

 

[Saltyk]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

From the little dictionary on my dashboard:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.

And? Seriously are we even disagreeing?

 

[Skulltaker101]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

I'm stunned.

Okay, first we have to analyse the meaning of the word "theory". See, a theory in a scientific context is a hypothesis, or "educated guess" that has been proven via experimentation and observation. Therefore, "just a theory" is to suggest that yes, evolution is a proven process that can be observed and analysed. Creationism is not a theory. It is not even a hypothesis. It is a matter of belief in ancient scripture. It cannot be observed or analysed. It cannot be proven. Surely you see the problem with the age-old argument of "just a theory." As a theory, then by definition it HAS BEEN PROVEN.

Also, the popularity of a concept is not the same as said concept being correct. Remember that in the 1500s, nearly everyone believed that the Sun orbited the Earth, but it didn't make it true.

OT: I have no trouble with somebody's faith. What irritates me is dogma and the forcible spreading of such faith under the guise of fact. That is what your teacher is doing. It is patently incorrect, and I don't care if that part of Kansas is so backwards that a jug of moonshine is an acceptable musical instrument. It's not right. Listen to the wisdom of these fine Escapists. Go talk to your principal.

 

[Krion_Vark]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

I'm stunned.

Okay, first we have to analyse the meaning of the word "theory". See, a theory in a scientific context is a hypothesis, or "educated guess" that has been proven via experimentation and observation. Therefore, "just a theory" is to suggest that yes, evolution is a proven process that can be observed and analysed. Creationism is not a theory. It is not even a hypothesis. It is a matter of belief in ancient scripture. It cannot be observed or analysed. It cannot be proven. Surely you see the problem with the age-old argument of "just a theory." As a theory, then by definition it HAS BEEN PROVEN.

Also, the popularity of a concept is not the same as said concept being correct. Remember that in the 1500s, nearly everyone believed that the Sun orbited the Earth, but it didn't make it true.

Stunned at what?
Did you know that in Scientific terms that Gravity is still known as a theory? Just because we know it happens and can observe it does not make it into science fact. Not right away. It has to be tested and have its results verified through different testing. Yes we know that evolution happens we have observed it. BUT the reason that its not a FACT is because of how broad it can be between the same species. You can sometimes not get the same result of an evolution putting the same stressors on a plant/animal. Yes you usually get the same evolutionary change in the same group but the evolutionary changes vary from test to test even if you copy the test. Scientists are working on evolution to become Science fact but as it stands now it is still just a theory.

I never said I was supporting Creationism its just that a lot of people don't realize that there is A LOT of work that goes into making something a science fact. The crazy thing is that if you think about it Creationism is a child's fantasy. They get to ride dinosaurs. Who is to say that humans didn't exist with the dinos? No one can really prove or disprove that. Creationism sits in its own little bubble it cannot really be proven or disproved because if creationism isn't real then who says evolution is? Say that God created all of us at once dinosaurs plants and humans. Then when shit went down the humans ended up either killing all the dinos or were able to adapt to the changes of the world and survive. There is a possibility that both Creationism and Evolution exist because God possibly could have made everything and then just took a step back and watch it unfold and see how his little play things are going to exist in this world.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Sorry guys, but in this case, personal beliefs DO matter. A teacher can never keep their beliefs out of their lessons in some way and this WILL cause harm to her science students.

On the other hand, Trollax may well be trollin....

 

[Yugeky20]

She is not your science teacher if he doesn't teach science...

On the other hand I am somewhat suspicious of the whole thread due to op's name, avatar and health meter.

Not only does she not teach science she doesn't know science(believing evolution is a religous scam).

 

[OneOfTheMichael's]

That's just.....horrible.
Consult your principle and then....

Hang the heretic! Burn her at the steak!

If she continues to state her made up opinions.

 

[regalphantom]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

Come up with a theory that has an equal amount of empirical evidence to support it as creationism (ie, Pastafanarianism, if you don't know what it is, look it up) and present it to her as an alternative, and when she tries to disprove you using whatever arguments she comes up with, and then in turn use those arguments against her own argument. She will probably kick you out of the class after doing so, but it would probably be worth doing.

 

[red the fister]

Evolution is a ... religious scam? How on earth does that work?
I used to go to a christian school, and they taught that sort of thing as well. If that's the situation you're in, just bear with it until you get to a school that actually understands science. If that's not the case, and you're in a public school or whatever, tell her bosses about it. If she's teaching that sort of shit in a science class that's absolutely unacceptable.

a scam by the Atheist Religion (oxymoron much?)

 

[trollax]

Evolution is a ... religious scam? How on earth does that work?
I used to go to a christian school, and they taught that sort of thing as well. If that's the situation you're in, just bear with it until you get to a school that actually understands science. If that's not the case, and you're in a public school or whatever, tell her bosses about it. If she's teaching that sort of shit in a science class that's absolutely unacceptable.

a scam by the Atheist Religion (oxymoron much?)

that's what she said exactly as she put it.Ha ha funny

 

[chaosyoshimage]

My science teacher didn't teach science either, and I used to troll when I was younger I was well. I feel ya man...

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

Have you considered the possibility that YOU are stupid, and that all that ridiculous godless science you believe in is false?

If not, you should.

...Are you done? Still convinced she's the stupid one? Good

Now beat her with a 2x4 until she is dead!

Wait, that may be a little extreme, even for idiocy such as hers.

How about instead, you complain to the principal, or better yet, the school board, that you feel uncomfortable being taught by someone so pathetically ignorant, and fear for the quality of your schooling should she be allowed to continue to teach

 

[red the fister]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html

the only way to "disprove" evolution is to quote scripture.
evolution has been observed.

 

[Krion_Vark]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html

the only way to "disprove" evolution is to quote scripture.
evolution has been observed.

I should really edit that post to what I actually mean. but anyway what I actually mean. Evolution is still just a theory it doesn't matter how much observations it has it still takes a while to become Science fact.

 

[red the fister]

Take great solace in knowing that I truly mean it when I say "lol, Americans"

I assume you're american because only in the "great" U.S. or A and of course few third world countries will someone like that be classified as a Science teacher and not batship retarded.

Yeah, one isolated incident definitely holds true for an entire massive country and millions of people. Nice job there, you really should us Americans, huh.

And someones personal beliefs instantly make them a bad teacher. I mean, I believe that Capitalism is the root of all the worlds ills, can I still teach Sociology from an unbaised perspective? Yes. Seriously, as long as her beliefs do not influence her lessons, it does not matter what she believes, AT ALL.

Not all RE teachers are non-religious (Even if they were non-religious that would be an issue, would it not?). Personal beliefs do not make a teacher good or bad, they do not make a person "Retarded" simply because they have a different version of events from you.

Sure, We might know they are wrong. But just because they believe something does not mean they are instantly an idiot.

I mean, Einstein was a christian. I know not all christians are creationists but... Well, pointing that out usually helps in these debates which, essentially, comes down to "She has faith and we think that faith is bullshit ergo she is a retard who should not be teaching"

This isn't a thread about whether she should hold true to her beliefs, this is a thread about if this woman should force her non-scientific views down the throats of the students in her SCIENCE CLASS

Also Einstein was Jewish

Just in response to the last bit about Einstein being jewish. He was born into a jewish family this is true but that does not make him jewish. Just as how a child belonging to christian parents is not christian. As a child one cannot truely comprehend all the different faiths instead most choose to adopt the faith of their parents. Einstein did not do this though. As proof I'd like to reference pg 36 of "the god delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Also if you read biographies of his life his religious views point him towards spinoza's god theory. just figured I'd clear that up. Cheers

just in response to the bit about Jews not being a Race...
Jewish is a race as much as it is a religion.

 

[Singularly Datarific]

The internet makes me feel like the only Christian who wants to be a rocket scientist...