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The Bum

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ResonanceSD said:
Australia. We don't have to shout that we're the best because we just know it to be true.



Mostly, anyway.

I beg to differ, more like England (which I love) without the world domination.

I personally am an American who's especially proud of his British ancestry. I do so wish the isles would just all get along, though...
 
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The Bum said:
ResonanceSD said:
Australia. We don't have to shout that we're the best because we just know it to be true.



Mostly, anyway.

I beg to differ, more like England (which I love) without the world domination.

I personally am an American who's especially proud of his British ancestry. I do so wish the isles would just all get along, though...
Those scars are very old and very deep.

We get along when it counts, but we do love to take the piss out of each other.

Bloody Scots! They ruined Scotland!
 

Smiley Face

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Smiley Face said:
Canada! Neck-deep in everything American, we manage to avoid most of the bad stuff! And, here in Toronto at least, we're also neck-deep in a swathe of different cultures. And our history isn't that bad either - the last time the U.S. tried to invade (back when we were British), we burned down the White House (hope we've made up for that), and while we were pretty bad to the Native peoples, we were much better than the U.S.

Yeah, a lot of our national identity is measured in its relation to the U.S. There's also the British bit, but the British part of my identity I largely get from my mum's family (Scottish).

Also, that Scandanavia and the World comic thing looks fun, I'll check it out.
Gods damn it! I hate it when Canadians try to claim that. During the War of 1812, the Canadian militia did not burn down the White House. Washington was taken by a brigade under the command General Robert Ross, made up of veteran troops from Wellington's Army.

4th (King's Own) Regiment of Foot
21st (Royal North British Fusilier) Regiment of Foot
44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot
85th (Bucks Volunteers) Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Royal Marines

All of those units were raised in the British Isles, not Canada!
I'm well aware of that. That said, 'Canada', at the time, wasn't really anything more than an extension of Britain, with Quebec tacked on. So we (British Empire) burned down the damn White House.

Seriously, there was little to no autonomy, the political atmosphere was overwhelmingly concerned with trying to be as British as possible to show the upstarts down south the error of their ways, a significant amount of the populace had been raised in Britain, the government officials were all posted from Britain, and there wasn't anything of a local military, so the vast majority of the troops garrisoned there were British. It really isn't so inaccurate to claim that. Even less so for me personally, because some of my ancestors at the time were British soldiers posted in Canada.
 

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bmasta said:
ooookay...so i'm the north african weirdo here...just point me to somewhere and i'll go stand in line for a visa. But we still have this to idle around when taking a break from not doing anything :D And anything above Marseilles is cold! i never understood why people would fight over dark, damp, grey, rainy lands...
http://www.tunisia-tourism.org/wp-content/uploads/sidibousaid.jpg
Well, things like food and stuff? Also we've got all the nice pine forests.
i wouldn't fight over pudding. But you got a point, let's invade France and make them taste their own onion soup. I choked on that after gagging on their snails! REVENGE
 

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Question to other Brit's: Do you identify yourself as English or British first?

When i was last asked this question i said "depends how i feel" because honestly i'm quite happy to be English and British, but what comes first i can't decide.
 
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Nickolai77 said:
Question to other Brit's: Do you identify yourself as English or British first?

When i was last asked this question i said "depends how i feel" because honestly i'm quite happy to be English and British, but what comes first i can't decide.
I use both too.

I'd say English when within the country, and British when out of it.

British just sounds classier than English.
 

ClockworkPenguin

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Nickolai77 said:
Question to other Brit's: Do you identify yourself as English or British first?

When i was last asked this question i said "depends how i feel" because honestly i'm quite happy to be English and British, but what comes first i can't decide.
I usually think of myself as British first, but that may be because my mum is Scottish. More generally, however, I think of myself first and foremost as a Lancastrian.
 

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Smiley Face said:
Canada! Neck-deep in everything American, we manage to avoid most of the bad stuff! And, here in Toronto at least, we're also neck-deep in a swathe of different cultures. And our history isn't that bad either - the last time the U.S. tried to invade (back when we were British), we burned down the White House (hope we've made up for that), and while we were pretty bad to the Native peoples, we were much better than the U.S.

Yeah, a lot of our national identity is measured in its relation to the U.S. There's also the British bit, but the British part of my identity I largely get from my mum's family (Scottish).

Also, that Scandanavia and the World comic thing looks fun, I'll check it out.
Canadian here too, let's hear it for America's hat! I like our culture, we follow a lot of what america does but have our own identity (thanks to the whole CANCON thing)

yeah we're pretty much just like America but a little more mild, just replace the racist history with black people with our racist history with Chinese people..
 

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ClockworkPenguin said:
Nickolai77 said:
Question to other Brit's: Do you identify yourself as English or British first?

When i was last asked this question i said "depends how i feel" because honestly i'm quite happy to be English and British, but what comes first i can't decide.
I usually think of myself as British first, but that may be because my mum is Scottish. More generally, however, I think of myself first and foremost as a Lancastrian.
Nice, i think it would be nice if there was a bit more regional/local pride, i sometimes feel national pride drowns out all other types of "pride".

I go to Lancaster University btw, Lancaster's a nice city.
 

brubobaggins

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Reet72 said:
Hmm...I wonder if this works over the internet...

AUSSIE
AUSSIE
AUSSIE!
OI!
OI!
OI!

*ahem* There we go. So Australia's pretty awesome. Although, I *am* half-Brazilian as well, which means I get dual citizenship. So while I love Sydney and all of...


I do miss Brazil immensely. Partly because I'm missing out on...


... but mostly because I'm missing out on...


I hope that's not too NSFW... ?
 

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The Bum said:
ResonanceSD said:
Australia. We don't have to shout that we're the best because we just know it to be true.



Mostly, anyway.

I beg to differ, more like England (which I love) without the world domination.

I personally am an American who's especially proud of his British ancestry. I do so wish the isles would just all get along, though...
You should move to England, I'm sure they'll all embrace you as one of their own.
 

Major_Tom

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Combine Rustler said:
Hungary.
Here's what you might want to now about our lovely little sinkhole in the Armpit of Europe:
-You will not find a job here
-The people running the country actively work to make your existence as miserable as humanly possible, as it is the only thing that can possible give them an erection
-There's some pretty nice looking places to visit
-If you're a gypsy, everyone (who's not another gypsy) will hate you
-Drivers tend to be rude, but at least generally capable
-Goulash is just a type of simple (if, admittedly, delicious) soup (it involves potatoes, so it has to be good), not some kind of "delicacy"
-There are lots of Neonazis. It's kind of the popular thing around here.

Edit: technically, I come from German, Ukranian and Greek ancestors. But I don't think that actual Hungarians still exist at all.
Hi there, neighbor! It's pretty much the same thing here just south across the border. Except our drivers are even worse as our current deputy prime minister has proved it in your country:
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/General_News/2010-01-12/8232/Croatian_party_leader_causes_fatal_road_accident_in_Budapest
Sorry about that.
 

ClockworkPenguin

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TheVioletBandit said:
I kind of wish there were less English people here. Wanna fight about it!
Cower in fear before the epic warcry of my people "Come and have a go, if you think your hard enough!" mwa ha ha ha