New Anti-Smoking Ads

[flarty]

as someone who has just quit smoking over a month ago now, i think people who smoke should have to pay for their own medical care, and if they are stupid enough not to listen to the facts and not provide their own medi-care then i supose they deserve to die.

Same goes for obese people. People should take care of themselves, if they dont want to they shouldnt expect the state to look after them at tax payers expense, they should take responsibility for their actions.

So yeah, these adverts should be banned, the earth is too poulated anyway.

(from uk where the nhs is all ready under massive strain.)

You forget the fact that quitting smoking is not very easy. What about all the smokers who began smoking before it became widely known that they were bad, but now are too addicted to quit? If laws like that were made they should be made after the generation of smokers, who became addicted without being told of the dangers, die off.

As for obesity, that can be because of genetics. It's not just that simple. Sure, many people become obese because of obsessive eating habits, but sometimes obesity just runs in families.

Ive just quit after 12 years of smoking. yes its addiction and the first 2 weeks were hell, but after that it was easy. All it takes is a lil effort, and im willing to acccept that some people may find it harder than others then they just simply need to try harder.
As for the people who started smoking before it became accepted that smoking kills then they would be excused from the law.

As for obesity, they should be offered a diet plan (which is easily availible on the internets) nothing more. If they want to eat themselves to death then thats there problem.

The thing with obesity though is that it isn't as simple as people don't care. Lifestyles as a whole are on a more sedentary turn because of the world we live in. There is a saying now that obesity used to be a rich man's disease, now it's a poor person's. My friend is a landscape designer. His job consists of walking to the car, driving to the office, sitting in a chair and designing plans for about 8 to 10 hours then walking to the car and driving home. That's his job. There are not a lot of opportunities for fitness, save for his weekends and that isn't much help because in order to do anything the exercise needs to be constant. Not to mention the nutritional value of even quality grown food is on the decline because of the use of pesticides and sprays and organic food is far more expensive.

yes organic food is expensive. But locally farmed produce which can be brought from farm shops is of high nutrional value extremerly fresh and extremerly cheap. theres no reason to eat macdonalds every day. if you lead a life style that doesnt allow for exercise then dont consume as many calories. 2500 calories is roughly the recommended daily allownace for a man considering they lead an active life style. and unless your friend sleeps for the other 12-14 hours of the day. He has plenty of spare time. 3 hours of exercise a week is what is recommended to keep the body is some sort of decent fitness.

This is just making excuses.

 

[DugMachine]

Hmm seen these ads a few times and while they have 'shocked' a few people from starting, I doubt they'll stop any smokers from quitting anytime soon. Hasn't stopped me that's for sure. I know what i'm doing to my body and i'm okay with it. Let me live my life the way I want to.

 

[psilontech]

These kinds of ads and the people who cram them down our throats irritate me. As such, I smoke to spite them in the hopes of crushing their spirits if they knew the only reason I smoked was because I hate them with a passion.

 

[RagTagBand]

Eh, Blatantly over manipulative. I mean For fucks sake when are we going to start seeing two ton moms doing Anti-cake ads?

It's all well and good showing the consequences of actions but finding the worst-case-scenario and presenting it as a likely consequence of smoking is OTT.

Not that governments want people to stop smoking, If they wanted that to happen they'd just make it illegal.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I think it's overkill honestly. Instead of demonizing smokers or the big tobacco companies it seems like the ads are trying to make smokers look like lepers. I don't smoke, I don't plan to smoke but I do know people who've been smoking for decades who don't use those voice boxes. I know there's a dark side to smoking as my step-dad's mom and, great aunt are cancer survivors. If anything I think they're downplaying the cancer side of it; surly that's the more common long-term effect of smoking.

 

[Grygor]

Drink, smoke when you are 16, die at 50 from lung cancer or liver failure.

Fun fact: the median age at death for lung cancer in the US is 72. The lifetime risk of lung cancer for smokers in the US is less than 1 in 6. Ultimately, about 50% of smokers will die from smoking-related causes.

Equivalent figures for liver disease are harder to track down. Suffice it to say, however, that if a middle-aged person dies due to their alcohol abuse, the cause of death is far more likely to be suicide or car accident.

Or don't put poison in your body in excessive amounts (smoking is worse, since it's nothing BUT poison, at least wine or small amounts of alcohol have beneficial effects), live to 80 and see your grandchildren.

Little over-dramatic there? You could also smoke and drink to you heart's content and live to be 100, or live healthily only to die at 35 from an aortic dissection. Anecdotes and hypotheticals mean nothing. Also, nicotine has demonstrable short-term cognitive benefits.

And here in the US, the average 50-year-old IS a grandparent - the average 80-year-old American is a great-grandparent.

The fact of the matter is that there are many, many factors that affect how long we live, most of them out of our control. It's simply naive to say "if you stop doing activity X, you WILL live longer."

edit: Forgot to mention - second hand smoking poisons air and people nearby few times more than the smoker himself.

Fun fact: the leading cause of lung cancer in non-smokers is, by a huge margin, radon inhalation.

 

[Vegosiux]

As a former smoker myself, I can say such a shock campaign never really affected me. I know smoking does things to your body that aren't good. That it can cause long-term problems.

You know what anti-smoking campaigns should be saying instead?

"Every time you buy a pack of cigarettes, you throw a couple of bucks right out the window."

It doesn't even get you high.

This. It's by some distance the most pointless substance to abuse. Cannot for the life of me see what makes people want to try it in the first place - at least other drugs have side effects that kind of entice you.

Oh, well now.

Relieves stress, gets your bowels into movement if you're the type with a lazy intestinal tract, asking for a light is a great ice-breaker at parties, makes you look awesome if you can blow smoke rings...though, for most smokers I think it's merely a habit.

 

[esperandote]

Here in Mexico the put them this warinings like this in the cigarrete packs.

Part of it says that cigarretes contain subtances that are used in rat poison.

 

[default]

I smoke. It's a bit of an internal struggle for me at the moment. These ads are distasteful and slightly shocking, for sure, but it's not going to help. Yeah, it'll stop people from starting, but most smokers are people who just don't give a fuck, and these anti-smoking agencies need to realise that. I'm one of those people. Most of my friends are those people. When I can finally have the thing that makes me want to keep living I'll quit, because then I won't need it.

Smoking is just a placebo for me at the moment. If I'm angry or feeling especially down I go and light up and just feel all my worries drain away.

 

[Xan Krieger]

You know what my biggest problem with smoking is? I ran out of cigarettes.

OT: The ads are horribly distateful and should be pulled, they serve no purpose other than to gross out people. Besides, aren't the warning labels on the cigarette packs enough?

 

[Easton Dark]

Yeah.... Fuck this, I'm quitting. This is my last pack. I don't want to end up sounding like Donald Duck.

Although I was quitting anyway, so this commercial didn't really change much I guess...

Good for you, man. The less people smoking, the better.

 

[Fiad]

At this point every single person knows they are bad for you. People who smoke are aware of the risk. They are choosing to take this risk. They know they have the chance to end up like that. But just don't care.

 

[GraveeKing]

Seriously - that women deserves a medal for doing that advert.

I hope some people really start to pay attention to these kind of adverts - if only these were put in front of YouTube videos instead of the other useless crap.

 

[Lionsfan]

yes organic food is expensive. But locally farmed produce which can be brought from farm shops is of high nutrional value extremerly fresh and extremerly cheap. theres no reason to eat macdonalds every day. if you lead a life style that doesnt allow for exercise then dont consume as many calories. 2500 calories is roughly the recommended daily allownace for a man considering they lead an active life style. and unless your friend sleeps for the other 12-14 hours of the day. He has plenty of spare time. 3 hours of exercise a week is what is recommended to keep the body is some sort of decent fitness.

This is just making excuses.

What about people who live in areas that have no farmland for half the year?

 

[OZWIN]

Don't think these ads are going to stop smokers especially the ones truly deep into their addiction. While this stuff happens to smokers especially long-term ones, cancer and other issues don't end up happening to everyone who smokes even long-term smokers.

 

[F4LL3N]

It should be banned because it offers nothing.

No, it shouldn't be banned because a ban would do nothing. Or are you unfamiliar with the glowing success record of prohibition in all of its forms.

Like it or not, people choose to smoke and should be allowed to choose to smoke so long as we live in countries which place any importance on personal freedom and responsibility.

Well you can confiscate, and perhaps fine, any place that sells it. But not worry too much about if someone is growing it in their backyard. I think I read somewhere yesterday that 70% of smokers in Australia want to quit but can't. If it's less available, they'll be able to quit.

Smoking isn't a freedom we need. It's known to be one of the unhealthiest things, with literally no benefits bar a headspin when you first start smoking and then to release the tension after you're already addicted.

The smartest thing to do would be to ban it. Because on top of the above, we know tabacco companies are quite evil. We know it's marketed to kids. We know it's addictive and unhealthy.