New Warcraft movie trailer (TV Spot 2)

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And it showed alot more then the first TV Spot trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvlGM6ikW0U


1. Wow that opening scene is giving me flashbacks to the Warcraft 3 teaser trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWsYl_8Y3v4

2. DWARVES, IRONFORGE!!! :D

3. Well that ending spoiled what happens, Appearently Anduin Lothar killed Blackhand if he died from that one sword slash?
 

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I think this will be it, you know the one video game movie that is fucking good, I mean I mostly say it because Moon was absolutely fantastic and I really want Duncan Jones to succeed even if Warcraft is not even close to the same kind of movie that Moon was so there's really no reason to think he'll be able to make fantasy epic when his only success is a movie that only had one actor on-screen, sure it had the Kevin Spacey-bot but that was a voice-over.

So really it could be bad but it's looking really damn good in all these trailers.
 

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Digging the references to the opening cinematic to Warcraft III. Not so sure who that orc is that Lothar kills. Know this is an alternate timeline, so maybe he's killing Orgrim in this timeline? Blackhand?

Anyway, time for my obligatory "please don't such, please don't suck..." moment.
 

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I want this to be a good movie. Both for myself, and my wife (she loves all things Warcraft). Plus I actually do want VG movies to move out of Uwe Boll's basement, trim the neckbeards and actually be worth a damn.
 

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Still looking like big, dumb fun. Hopefully it will be big, dumb fun.
 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that first scene is a deliberate homage to the WC3 opening. Or is at least edited to appear as such for the sake of the trailer.

Still can't decide if this looks good or not. I want it to be because I'm always up for a bit of pretty, dumb fun, but I'm not quite convinced.
 

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Zhukov said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that first scene is a deliberate homage to the WC3 opening. Or is at least edited to appear as such for the sake of the trailer.

Still can't decide if this looks good or not. I want it to be because I'm always up for a bit of pretty, dumb fun, but I'm not quite convinced.
Yeah, I hope it's good too. I love serious fantasy (lord of the rings and game of thrones are great), but man I could go for some dumb, silly, pure-fun fantasy too. Magic, and adventure, and dudes in over-designed armor riding griffons :D

I'm only a very casual fan of Warcraft (mostly from Hearthstone), but I think this movie could be a lot of fun if they can pull it off. Hopefully Gul'Dan is at least fun. He's some kind of crazy, demon-worshiping orc mystic, there's gotta be some fun stuff they can do with that.
 

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Still looking like big, dumb fun. Hopefully it will be big, dumb fun.
I expect classical Blizard - nothing special, but well polished.

This is the only thing that might "return" me to WoW, at least for couple hours :)
 

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I still say they should have gone full CGI instead of the human actors being real people. It looks a bit off how the real people fight obvious CGI orcs... =/ I hope it will be at least decent though.
 

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rcs619 said:
Zhukov said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that first scene is a deliberate homage to the WC3 opening. Or is at least edited to appear as such for the sake of the trailer.

Still can't decide if this looks good or not. I want it to be because I'm always up for a bit of pretty, dumb fun, but I'm not quite convinced.
Yeah, I hope it's good too. I love serious fantasy (lord of the rings and game of thrones are great), but man I could go for some dumb, silly, pure-fun fantasy too. Magic, and adventure, and dudes in over-designed armor riding griffons :D

I'm only a very casual fan of Warcraft (mostly from Hearthstone), but I think this movie could be a lot of fun if they can pull it off. Hopefully Gul'Dan is at least fun. He's some kind of crazy, demon-worshiping orc mystic, there's gotta be some fun stuff they can do with that.
Oh my goodness you have no idea how serious Warcraft can be, yes there is humor and whackiness, but than you have moments like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqB3KeiBLuw

And this:

https://youtu.be/dfkiJXnSRM8?t=1377

And most definately this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
 

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Ehhhhh, I am currently low hype. I don't want to be disappointed from going into it with high levels. I am thinking it is going to make big money because Warcraft, but it honestly looks generic.
Small dude fights big ass opponent, beats him with one strike.
Dude falls in love with enemy woman.

I love Warcraft, currently playing Warcraft 3 again. But Blizzard isn't the same as it was before, the stories aren't improving or even maintaining their quality. Maybe it is because I am older, or maybe the direction at Blizzard isn't as good, idk.

There needs to be moments like Arthas' fall, Grom and Thrall vs Mannorath, Archimonde leveling a city, that shit was dope, that stuff stays in your memory.

I remember thinking years ago after watching awesome cutscene after cutscene in D2 and War3 and even Starcraft, that Blizzard should make some animated movies. I think it is too late for that now, sadly.
 

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http://blizzardwatch.com/2016/03/19/new-warcraft-movie-trailer-gives-us-first-look-guldan/

Gul'dan's shown up. And...eh. Music track used isn't doing me any favors. :(
 

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I'm not sure why exactly, but this movie looks godawful from the footage they've shown so far. I think it looks too clean and polished. It's too colorful which defeats the purpose of their advanced CGI since it looks completely artificial like it was all shot in a small green screen studio, which it probably was. Yes, I think that's it. That's why I hate it. It brings back memories of Star Wars prequels. They had the same problem. Too clean and colorful and too reliant on CGI instead of real locations.

And the trailers are all following that same corny dramatic trailer formula that's been popular for the past 10 years or so to the fuckin' letter, which only makes me hate it even more.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
I'm not sure why exactly, but this movie looks godawful from the footage they've shown so far. I think it looks too clean and polished. It's too colorful which defeats the purpose of their advanced CGI since it looks completely artificial like it was all shot in a small green screen studio, which it probably was. Yes, I think that's it. That's why I hate it. It brings back memories of Star Wars prequels. They had the same problem. Too clean and colorful and too reliant on CGI instead of real locations.

And the trailers are all following that same corny dramatic trailer formula that's been popular for the past 10 years or so to the fuckin' letter, which only makes me hate it even more.
Your complaining about its CGI being colorful?! I thought one of the complaints of modern movies is not being colorful enough.

I am sorry but I just find criticisms against CGI just plain snobbery against it. Rarely even acknowledge the context CGI is used for.

This movie needs its CGI to create its world it needs it to make Gryphons, it needs it to make Floating Cities in the Sky, it needs it to make the Orcs the way they want them to look like. I don't want Warcraft Orcs to look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtx2A1X80

This is what they are suppsosed to look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ

And I don't care if they are "there" or not.

And the Star Wars prequas was 10 plus years ago CGI effects has advanced since then.
 

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I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
 

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The Madman said:
I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
It's another alternate time line, of course! Darn that meddlesome Infinite Dragonflight!
 

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Adam Jensen said:
I'm not sure why exactly, but this movie looks godawful from the footage they've shown so far. I think it looks too clean and polished. It's too colorful which defeats the purpose of their advanced CGI since it looks completely artificial like it was all shot in a small green screen studio, which it probably was. Yes, I think that's it. That's why I hate it. It brings back memories of Star Wars prequels. They had the same problem. Too clean and colorful and too reliant on CGI instead of real locations.

And the trailers are all following that same corny dramatic trailer formula that's been popular for the past 10 years or so to the fuckin' letter, which only makes me hate it even more.
Wait, what?

Warcraft has always been colourful, and if anything, the more common complaint is that it's not colourful enough. Looking at the trailers now, what really irks me is the desert-like setting. Is this meant to be the Black Morass, the result of the Dark Portal's malignant influence on Azeroth? If so, then it's lacklusture.

Second of all, yes, the prequels used CGI for their worlds and you know what? It looked better for it. Worlds like Coruscant, Kamino, and Naboo felt like alien worlds, whereas in The Force Awakens, we're back to "this piece of desert on Earth is an alien world. Yay." Whatever complaints you can level at the prequels, the environment design isn't one of them.

Now how the trailers present the movie is another matter, one that I kind of agree with. Cue my "please don't suck, please don't suck..." mantra.
The Madman said:
I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
It's been stated multiple times to be an alternate timeline.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
It's another alternate time line, of course! Darn that meddlesome Infinite Dragonflight!
Hawki said:
It's been stated multiple times to be an alternate timeline.
AGAIN?!? This is getting silly.

It's already hard enough to reconcile the games plotline with the story told by the books and other extended lore, some of which is considered canonical while some other bits aren't. Add in all the Bronze Dragonflight stuff and the Warlords nonsense and you've got alternate universe within alternate universe making everything even more a ridiculous jumble of ideas than it already was.

Blizzard should, in my opinion, be working on making things simple and concise rather than picking and choosing from various sources for yet another even more fanservicy retelling of a story already told multiple times. Blizzard are at their best when they keep things simple: They're good at making fun characters and great at crafting settings, then they have the bad habit of jumbling it all up with gibberish dialogue and comic-bookey plot-twists and needless overwrought complexities.

But then at least this time it isn't Blizzard acting alone. There's a seasoned director at the movies helm with his name on the line and a whole crew of movie writers who've also gone over the script a million times or more, as opposed to Metzen making things up on the spot as it sometimes feels he does. So maybe I'm worrying for nothing.

Still... even dismissing my distaste for their lore-mishandling, I'm going to continue being cautious if for no other reason than it's a video-game movie and those are pretty much never good.
 

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The Madman said:
Blizzard should, in my opinion, be working on making things simple and concise rather than picking and choosing from various sources for yet another even more fanservicy retelling of a story already told multiple times. Blizzard are at their best when they keep things simple: They're good at making fun characters and great at crafting settings, then they have the bad habit of jumbling it all up with gibberish dialogue and comic-bookey plot-twists and needless overwrought complexities.
"Simple" and "sequels and expansions forever" are kinda mutually exclusive.

The original Warcraft was simple. Now add two sequels, however many expansions, an MMO with six(?) expansions, however much expanded universe garbage and now a movie adaption. No way that's staying simple, if only because they need a new undead horde or pissed off orc or demonic incursion to drive each new chapter.
 

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The Madman said:
I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
I really don't mind because they are essentially rebooting the lore.

Now I am a die-hard Warcraft fan; propbably one of the few in this website, but even I admit the mainstream lore in WOW can be a bit too inconsistant, and flat out ridiculous at times.

This movie and its potential sequals has to opportunity to reboot the lore into at least something more consistant and with less plot holes.