Hang on a minute! Santa Claus DOESN'T exist?!
Anyway, his correct name is "Father Christmas"....
Anyway, his correct name is "Father Christmas"....
New York Teacher Tells Kids There Is No Santa Claus
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Like Santa, it's outside the scope of school. Santa is for parents to talk to their kids about. Legal, illegal, neither have any bearing on this topic.Fagotto said:
Surely you can agree that there are some things that should be left to parents to teach. Well, IMO this is one of those things. You don't want to tell your kid that Santa is real, fine but then wouldn't you be upset if the teacher told them the opposite?
I was 10 when my parents told me santa wasn't real, and I wish they waited another year before ruining it. For children Santa Claus is christmas. He's a magical being that while you're asleep gives you (for the most part) awesome presents without you(the child) feeling guilty about the cost.
My favourite memories of christmas was running into the sitting-room at 5am to find a load of toys piled up on the couch.
Even now I always smile when I hear the newsreaders discuss norads tracking of santa each year. Yes it is a lie, but so what?
I didn't realise how many people knew before they were 8 and I'm glad no one told me.
My favourite memories of christmas was running into the sitting-room at 5am to find a load of toys piled up on the couch.
Even now I always smile when I hear the newsreaders discuss norads tracking of santa each year. Yes it is a lie, but so what?
I didn't realise how many people knew before they were 8 and I'm glad no one told me.
I've always felt that the Santa lie is a misguided practice for parents to engage in. It's one thing to have some magic in a kid's life - like, when I found out about Santa (and I was very young because my family was super dysfunctional like that) I was upset - but I was MORE upset that I'd been lied to than the fact that a man didn't come down my chimney every year with presents for me. What, exactly, is wrong with telling children that you get presents at Christmas from your parents who love you? Why the need for a proxy gift giver? It's all very confusing to a child - or it was to me.
Don't get me wrong! I love Christmas and I love Christmas specials and all of that - but I can't help but recognize that there'd be no broken hearted children finding out Santa isn't real if we didn't keep lying to them about his existence.
Don't get me wrong! I love Christmas and I love Christmas specials and all of that - but I can't help but recognize that there'd be no broken hearted children finding out Santa isn't real if we didn't keep lying to them about his existence.
My teacher did the same when I was 9. I told my parents and they were kind of upset, but they didn't go complain to the teacher, and the story most certainly didn't make news. That's probably because I live in a country where people employ logic in there everyday lives.
I dunno. I was raised with the whole "always be honest"-spiel while growing up, found out about the whole Santa-isn't-real thing, and thought: "Hey, if my parents were able to lie to me for YEARS, why the hell can't I do the same?". So yeah, as bad as it may sound, I'm not gonna let my kid (if I decide on starting a family) be told about these kinda things until they are old enough themselves to decide what they want to believe. Who knows, maybe they'll end up being able to be honest instead of lying to everyone they meet (like I do a lot of). >_>
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More on topic though, I applaud the teacher for actually telling the truth. Sure, avoiding the matter alltogether might have been easier, but I'm glad she chose the honest way around the matter. If that school decides to punish the teacher for doing her job then that school has little business staying open imho.
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More on topic though, I applaud the teacher for actually telling the truth. Sure, avoiding the matter alltogether might have been easier, but I'm glad she chose the honest way around the matter. If that school decides to punish the teacher for doing her job then that school has little business staying open imho.
What! santa doesn't exist? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Kids should get to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and fairies and unicorns and all that fantasy crap. Why? Because you're only going to be a kid for so long and then you have to enter into the world of reality and freak out about the rent and college and having a job. I think a large problem with kids today is that we don't get them time to imagine as much as we used too. They play games and watch TV and don't go out and play pretend. We expect our kids to learn more and more with each generation. We freak them out by telling them things that they don't need to know just yet. The least we can do is let them believe in fairytales while they're still young enough to believe it.
When I was little I believed in all the holiday characters, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and as I got older, my mother never had to sit me down and tell the truth. I figured it out on my own as I got older and I simply felt that my childhood had been richer because of it.
Yes, telling kids Santa is real is a lie, but it doesn't hurt to strengthen a child's imagination.
As for parents lying well...sometimes they have too. When I was little I was inspecting a package of meat my mother was about to cook. I notice there was a puddle of red under it. It was watered down blood. I said "mom, this looks like blood." She told me "no it's not blood." Why did she lie to me about something like that? Because if she hadn't, I wouldn't have eaten and when you're living on a limited budget with 3 kids in the house, it doesn't matter if they're grossed out, they have to eat what mom cooks. Yet when I asked my mother "where do babies come from?" my mother promptly said "I'll tell you when you're older." She didn't lie to me about things that were really important, but she did lie to me about unimportant things that kept the house in harmony.
When I was little I believed in all the holiday characters, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and as I got older, my mother never had to sit me down and tell the truth. I figured it out on my own as I got older and I simply felt that my childhood had been richer because of it.
Yes, telling kids Santa is real is a lie, but it doesn't hurt to strengthen a child's imagination.
As for parents lying well...sometimes they have too. When I was little I was inspecting a package of meat my mother was about to cook. I notice there was a puddle of red under it. It was watered down blood. I said "mom, this looks like blood." She told me "no it's not blood." Why did she lie to me about something like that? Because if she hadn't, I wouldn't have eaten and when you're living on a limited budget with 3 kids in the house, it doesn't matter if they're grossed out, they have to eat what mom cooks. Yet when I asked my mother "where do babies come from?" my mother promptly said "I'll tell you when you're older." She didn't lie to me about things that were really important, but she did lie to me about unimportant things that kept the house in harmony.
According to Assassin's Creed, the Templars were involved in all the bad things like Hitler.
My question is, were they also behind Fox News?
My question is, were they also behind Fox News?
Santa's class.
My kids are going to have Santa because it used to make me really happy, along with most other people I know, provided they aren't humbugs.
None of this 'Oh no, parents are lying to their children, moral dilemma... commercialism... the horror' stuff.
My kids are going to have Santa because it used to make me really happy, along with most other people I know, provided they aren't humbugs.
None of this 'Oh no, parents are lying to their children, moral dilemma... commercialism... the horror' stuff.
I think santa is important, but for the following reason.
Discovering santa doesnt exist through rational thinking and questioning is a rite of intellectual passage for every child. I think it shows the point at which a child is mature and intelligent enough to reason logically and refute obviously false points. Less delusion. More logic. I think its important, and ill tell my kids santa is real, then make NO effort to keep up the lie. If they work it out i will praise them, explain it was a test, and give them more presents every year than i did previously. Win win.
Discovering santa doesnt exist through rational thinking and questioning is a rite of intellectual passage for every child. I think it shows the point at which a child is mature and intelligent enough to reason logically and refute obviously false points. Less delusion. More logic. I think its important, and ill tell my kids santa is real, then make NO effort to keep up the lie. If they work it out i will praise them, explain it was a test, and give them more presents every year than i did previously. Win win.