Next Batman Film Named

[GrinningManiac]

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[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I didn't think it'd be the Riddler.

Please, please don't make it Mr. Freeze unless you are prepared to do him the right way.

 

[HereForFreeFood]

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according to this - http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/ - I'm afraid not, buddy.

 

[duchaked]

well awesome that there's gonna be another film but...hope that's not the final title

doesn't even make much sense. he didn't fall, and he rose/began already so...eh whatever, Nolan will do his thing and I can't wait to see it!

 

[Tdc2182]

They could have done such a better title. That has no flow to it and is not clever at all. Like Knight Fall, though that would imply that Batman dies. But seriously, give me an hour in a closed room and I can give you a kick ass title.

 

[Tdc2182]

I'm putting money down on Mr Freeze. I don't know how they'll pull it off, but if they're successful it will be great.

Hah, Nolan said earlier in the year that they wouldn't be doing Mr. Freeze.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

I think at some point, possibly quite early on, Nolan forgot that Batman was a COMIC BOOK!

Hence why the Boston crime drama feel to it feels so much better...

In fact, let me put it this way (and thus save me a shitload of time individually going through the list of possible villains): could you put that villain in The Departed? No? Then he probably isn't going to appear...

 

[firemark]

I understand why there's no Riddler. In truth, I feel that the way they wrote the Joker was very close to how I see the Riddler being portrayed and even though the Riddler has a more "puzzling" way of going about his mayhem the overall feeling would be to similar to the Dark Knight. To distance these to villains is important and I hope he does go on to include the Riddler in his series. Hush would be an awesome villain, but it would require too much back story involving the Riddler, etc.

As for the name...I mean come on we already know his title of Dark Knight, why not play off of his other titles: "The World's Greatest Detective" and "Caped Crusader". Maybe something like "The Dark Crusade", he's already been set up as the knight that's at war with the city, this can now be seen as his fight, his crusade, to regain their trust. I mean can't you imagine Alfred saying: "If I may say so, Master Bruce, you musn't let them get to you. You are on a journey, a crusade. Gotham cannot be rebuilt in a day." Or something to that extent. Anyways, these are my thoughts.

 

[EgoDeusEst]

Personally I would've guessed "Dark Knight Returns." But still, I want to see this.

That would have been even more confusing since TDK had a lot of inspiration from this
One of the only comic books I own. And with good reason. S'good.

 

[Delock]

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I have always maintained that there should be no problem representing Batman as he is in the comic books, especially in regards to being Bruce Wayne. If the movie makers read The Long Halloween and Dark Victory then they would have all they ever needed to know about Bruce Wayne being Batman. Conflicted, torn between his duty to the people in his life (Selina Kyle and Dick Grayson) and his mad quest for vengeance. It make him more relatable because he has the balancing aspects trying to make him act more like a rational human, which then gets overtaken later as those around him are revealed as costumes as well.

Is that so hard?

Personally I think Keaton pulled it off magnificently. The scene in batman Returns where he and Selina Kyle are both late for engagements as Batman and Catwoman, and both have to run off in the middle of a date, or when they realise who the other is in Shreck's ball. Those are the scenes we need, Bruce struggling to maintain his front and his sanity. Not Bale's 'Wayne is overacting as people expect him to be.' Bruce Wayne is not a dandy-playboy fop in the comics or other movies, so seeing the character of Wayne being diminished has always been a point of contention for me.

Robin from Teen Titans was a very good character. My interests have always been more to the comic books, and the entire Teen Titans show could almost fit directly into canon as the time when Robin became Nightwing. (Almost) But yeah, Robin, if handled well, is not just a sidekick hanger-on.

I think Grant Morrison proved that the Silver-Age can be included and actually make a story scarier for it having happened, rather than diminishing the effect, but I know Nolan wouldn't try for that. In regards to Superman, I think the most important question has already been asked in the comic books: 'What's so Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?' They've already written one of the best Superman stories ever as a direct attack on people trying to make him darker and edgier. Superman shouldn't be goofy, but that doesn't mean he must be a bitter anti-social loner? But yeah, this discussion is getting too much into Superman now.

Batman needs a balancing act of villains and support characters who complement him, and where the Joker is the perfect complement of Batman's order vs Chaos, the Riddler is the perfect challenger of wits and intelligence. There are few other villains who match him quite so siginificantly. (Hush being the dark version of Bruce Wayne, Prometheus being the dark version of Batman, and Two-Face being the representation of the duality of the souls.)

Here's my problem with Bale: he's failing at imitating the TAS approach, ie having Bruce be comfortable because treats it as if it were a vacation. Unfortunately, TAS was grey suit, which mean that Batman himself also regularly smiled and joked (not like blue suit did, but he still chuckled and let off a few snarky comments, normally back to Alfred). Nolan films are Black Suit though, where batman is supposed to be a tortured soul where you ask if he's sane or not. The Bruce is supposed to be a mask and Batman is supposed to be who he's more comfortable being, only slipping into a reversed role when love is involved. This part gets horribly turned upside down in Nolan's version, where Bruce is cofortable until love is inolved, and Batman seemed like the mask.

While Keaton did pull it off spectacularly, his Batman bordered close to Goddamn territory (especially in returns where he seemed a bit less concerned with not killing as I remember him tossing someone into a hole that was either electrocuted/ready to explode for some reason. I really don't remember too well right now). Strangely, at the same time he did really seem violent/fearful enough for the tone.

He doesn't have to be bitter at all, and if you really want it to be darker but not too much, then have him take up the mantle because he made a mistake that caused the Earth to be attacked or something (and no horrible amount of angst when confronted about this. You get the one "Oh God, what have I done?" moment, and then him try to make things right only to learn this is his true calling). See? There's your dark, less comical version of his origin, yet he still can be a light hearted hero (sort of the Spiderman path rather than the Batman one).

Anyways, if there is one problem I have with comic book movies, it's that they kill off the villains. While it is a bit disconcerting to see Two-Face back on the streets in a week, why do you hate the idea of leaving a villain alive (ironically enough, they left the Joker alive only for reality itself to kill him off. RIP Heath Ledger)?

But yeah, there are plenty of his Rogue gallery to go around (and then of course there's the classic comic second version of character after the first dies). While I don't think Hush would fit a redemption story for Batman, given his whole nature as being more of a secretive villain who happens to be the opposite of Bruce Wayne, Prometheus definitely might. After a little bit of thought, I realized the Riddler might actually be better suited to be a villain in a sequel (if there is one after this), as he'd be more the type to require the police trying to figure out the clues alongside Batman rather than lead them to him, as well as someone who would be more focused on taking down a hero than a wanted man (not because he's a villain, but more because it would be much bigger of an achievement). Huge Strange, the Mad Hatter, Firefly, Deadshot, and Zsasz (who actually got a cameo) are all villains that could potentially fit with Nolan's sort of world, but I'd hope for Black Mask, Bane, or Prometheus first.

 

[Potato21]

Personally I would've guessed "Dark Knight Returns." But still, I want to see this.

Followed by The Dark Knight Forever and then The Dark Knight and the Boy Wonder? lol Returns was already the subtitle of a Batman movie.

 

[Death God]

No Riddler and not even a very original name. I'm still hoping for the best.

 

[Berethond]

Why don't they just have Lex Luthor in it.

 

[Withard]

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I think these are far more interesting.

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Christopher Nolan has been signed to direct, everybody?s back on board and Tom Hardy has been signed to play a villain, Batman 3 is almost ready to start filming but the big question now is who is Tom Hardy playing and what villains can we expect to accompany him?
A lot of people are saying The Riddler but I don?t see Hardy as the Riddler (Then again I didn?t see Ledger as the Joker) as for me the Riddler has to be someone tall and thin so who can I see Hardy playing?
*Correct me if I?m wrong on any of this information I?m working from memory and might be a little ropey

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Hugo Strange
Hugo has an IQ of 195 and was in one story given the task of figuring out who Batman was by the Gotham police, sound familiar to the end of the Dark Knight? Hugo figured it out but didn?t reveal Batman?s identity to Gotham instead chose to auction the information but before he could reveal it he was kidnapped and tortured to death by a corrupt politician/gangster Thorne or at least Thorne thought... Thorne then started having visions and through his guilt he became paranoid and insane. The visions turned out to be caused by a hallucinogenic drug given to Thorne by Hugo who it turned out hadn?t died (This drug would tie into the first film with Scarecrow and Rhaul Al Ghaul?s poison). This whole story for me fits perfectly into the Nolan universe and would act as an excellent B Story in much the same way the Two Face plot did in The Dark Knight.

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Bane
Bane (Not the dodgy one in Batman and Robin) was Rhaul Al Ghaul?s apprentice, a mercenary, a man for hire, so what if the Mayor hires Bane to capture the now wanted Batman? Bane is highly intelligent, super strong and would know all Batman?s moves so how would Batman defeat and avoid something that isn?t scared of him, he can?t beat in a fight and would know his identity from Ghaul? You could tie him into the Hugo Strange storyline too what if he was hired to capture Hugo for Thorne? In my personal opinion regardless of the story of the next Batman the final fight should be with Bane (Revenge for killing his master), possibly in the Bat Cave, what an incredible way that would be for the trilogy to end.

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Dead Shot
Dead Shot for me in the Nolan Bat Universe is a hit and miss as in is he a little too surreal (In the same way the penguin is) to fit in? But his plot could work Gotham needs a new hero and they could turn to Dead Shot who then would use the whole thing to take control of the criminal underworld now in need of leadership after Sal Maroni is presumably deceased following the Dark Knight.

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Hush
If the Riddler is involved he should be teamed up with Hush, Hush hasn?t a problem with Batman but Bruce Wayne which would make for unique motivation for his character in the film. Hush was similar to Bruce Wayne but he actually wanted his parents dead so he tried to kill them by cutting the brakes on their car but Thomas Wayne saved his mother and if I remember right Hush then had to look after her until she died. Hush was jealous of Bruce Wayne after his parents were murdered and blamed him for the burden of looking after his mother. Upon finding out Bruce Wayne is Batman he teams up with The Riddler and masterminds a scheme to not reveal Batman as Bruce Wayne but to punish him via Bruce Wayne. This would be very interesting to explore and for me the best possible plotline for the Riddler. It's not entirely true to the Hush storyline but that's how I see it fitting in to the film best

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You could do a similar story with Black Mask who in my opinion is essentially what Hush is but in a new modern outfit.

So who do you think Tom Hardy will be playing? And who do you think the villain/s should be in Batman 3?

For me it I see Hardy as a good Hush with a combination of The Riddler and Bane (Although Hugo also seems very likely to be involved in my oppionon)

 

[white_salad]

Sounds like a porn tit;e. The dark knight rises...bow chika bow wow

 

[silverdragon9]

aw man here i was thinking we would get something like special agent Edward Nigma as an L like character. ): well the only other thing that makes sense is talia el ghoul or maybe bane.

 

[Toriver]

Nolan has already "ruled out" the Penguin too, but I thought I would share again an idea I had on another Batman villain thread a few months ago starring the Penguin. I thought it would be interesting.

Spoiler: From the one who brought you The Thought, The Conjecture, and the big hit The Brainfart comes... THE IDEA!

IDEA: Villains: The Penguin, Mr. Freeze "Ally": Catwoman
PLOTLINE: The loss of the Joker, Falconi and various other crime lords has left an economic vacuum in the city, as city government has continually failed to provide for the needs of those who had once, even reluctantly, relied on the black market. An economic crisis has befallen the city, fueled by the destruction caused by the Joker, but also due to other forces. Both the government and Wayne Enterprises are feeling the crunch. Bruce finds that he has less money than he needs to both protect the city as Batman and be that force the city's citizens need to come to their financial rescue.
Enter the Penguin. Oswald Cobblepot, a well-known millionaire who made his fortune through crime, decides to step in and attempt to fill the shoes the Joker left behind as the number one crime boss in Gotham. He sees it as a good investment for his future to supply the goons with what they need to kill Batman, in return for loyalty to him. Unlike the Joker, who thrived on chaos and did nothing to help anyone else, the Penguin, as Cobblepot was known for his love of birds and penguin-like appearance in a tuxedo, instead felt that in order to achieve his ends, he must be the one to bring about order in the streets. He would take over Gotham by robbing from the "rich", such as banks, businesses that remained wealthy (including Wayne Enterprises), and wealthy individuals, and give to the poor, of course keeping a large percentage of the funds for himself and his circle in order to effectively take control of the city government through bribes and other methods. Of course, this would not exactly be "giving", either, hanging favors and predatory loans over the heads of the people of Gotham in order to bring in even more profit and control. This would also aid him in taking out Batman by fighting both a physical and a propaganda offensive against him. If the Penguin supplies the people with what they need, they would despise Batman even more than they already do, seeing him as someone who wants to take away their chance at a decent life along with applying his own sense of "justice" in the streets. This would only add to Batman's already-poor image among the populace due to his taking the blame for the murders committed by Two-Face. Anyone supporting Batman in Penguin-controlled neighborhoods would be dealt with by the mobs.
One such person aided by the Penguin was Dr. Victor Fries, a physiologist in Gotham University researching a cure for his wife's terminal disease. She was being kept alive in a constant cryostasis. Unfortunately, budget cuts due to the economic crisis force the University's board to cut funding for Fries' research. Knowing he needed the funding to keep his wife alive, Fries became desperate. He turned to the Penguin for help, and received it in return for technology that would aid the Penguin in his own dealings. Because Gotham U. is a public university, the government would not allow Fries to continue using the university laboratory to conduct his privately-funded research, especially not with the Penguin's funds. He would not go quietly, and police had to step in and remove him from his laboratory. The Penguin sent lackeys to help protect Fries. Even Batman joined in at one point, in order to make sure things didn't get out of hand. Unfortunately, during the tussle, an accident occurred. The pipes keeping Fries' wife's freezing machine cold broke apart. The doctor ran to fix them, but was severely injured and knocked out in the process. Batman rescued Fries and brought him to the hospital, where researchers fitted him with a suit that would keep Fries' body temperature at the cold temp now required to keep him alive. The Penguin, who bribed police to let him see Fries, convinced Fries to blame his wife's death on Batman and further join the fight against him. So, the villain Mr. Freeze was created.
As the crisis wears on, the city government and Wayne Enterprises continue to take major hits to their public image and their pocketbooks. The Penguin is beating them not necessarily with firepower, but with economics. Now, with freezing technology on their side, there is a new type of danger posed to Batman. How will Bruce make his father proud and bring his company back to a good place in the public eye? How will Batman defeat an enemy whom he had not prepared for, when he may not be able to make the investments necessary to make those preparations? It may take all the skills of both Bruce Wayne and Batman to defeat this new foe.
Though Bruce would have a little help from a surprising source. Selina Kyle comes into the story as a young, driven woman who reminds Bruce of Rachel quite a bit. Unfortunately, the two have a hard time seeing one another. It seems either one of them is never available for sometimes strange and mysterious reasons. Of course, for those who don't know, Selina is Catwoman. She would feature perhaps in one or two meetings between the bat and herself, as a cat burglar taking advantage of the economic mayhem and barely slipping away from the Bat when he tries to catch her. Her biggest intake comes from stealing directly from the Penguin's bank hauls. However, her time with Bruce makes her see exactly the devastation Gotham is in and how the Penguin's predatory practices really aren't making anything better. She decides to make one last heist from the Penguin and steal decisive evidence Bruce needs to threaten the Penguin's empire and hands it over to Batman "to give to Bruce Wayne". In the end, Bruce will use his own business and legal skills to take down the Penguin, allowing Batman to focus on Mr. Freeze and take him down.

If only those two villains weren't already ruled out...

 

[octafish]

If not the Riddler then it should be Strange.


Tom Hardy has been signed up? As a villain? You know what I see when I look at Tom Hardy? Someone who wants to burn. Burn everything. So Firefly is basically what I see. Unfortunately, Firefly goes hand in hand with Killer Moth and their shtick is basically the same as the Joker's in the Dark Knight.

Maybe we will get to see Floyd Lawton or Thomas Blake (Although Catman was shit until the Secret Six). I'm just hoping for The Wall to make an appearance especially if Deadshot is a villain.

 

[Ldude893]

Two words, just two words:

Victor Zsasz.