Nine Inch Nails Discussion

[CrashBang]

I hated them when I was a kid but they have grown on me recently. I prefer other industrial bands like Machine Head and Rammstein but I've been meaning to give NIN a closer listen, thanks for reminding me!

I cannot think of a single song by Machine Head that I would label "industrial". Maybe we're thinking of two different bands? Albums like "The Blackening", "Through the Ashes of Empire", etc?

Sigh, I hate myself. I was thinking of Fear Factory but, for some reason, put Machine Head. I don't even really like Machine Head
So yeah, edit: Fear Factory

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

I never really liked them much, they always seemed to me like a more watered-down, emo version of Ministry.

really? i'm fine with people not liking NIN, but i can't see any comparison to Ministry, unless you're talking about his (Jourgensen's) crappy early stuff (With Sympathy... /shudder). i've always thought it was kinda weak to even classify Ministry as industrial or electronic, since pretty much everything Jourgensen has done since the late '80s is closer to speed-metal.

OT: i like NIN in general, but The Fragile is definitely my favorite of his albums. love every track on there except for Starfuckers, Inc..

 

[funguy2121]

Basically I was just wondering how many of you Escapists listened to Nine Inch Nails, or any of Trent Reznor's music. Not many people I know listen to his music so I'm hoping i'll find some people here to talk about his albums etc.
So.. What's your favorite album/song/lyric?

I hate to be cliche but I think everything congealed for The Downward Spiral. It was as if everything he had been trying to do with his music came together for that album. It was was (and still is) like nothing I've ever heard before.

I still listen to some of Pretty Hate Machine and Broken, and I do enjoy The Fragile and all of the remix albums and maxi singles, but I don't care for anything he did after 2000. It just all sounds so simplistic and unoriginal by comparison.

Wait! I forgot. I did hear an amazing (and relatively new) instrumental by him on Pandora, and I haven't been able to find out what it's from. Also, I haven't yet heard the soundtrack to The Social Network.

 

[Julianking93]

THX 1138, is that that movie by.... Who was it by again? George Lucas? Yeah that was quite artistic of him. And one of his songs has a sound clip of porn but I can't remember which one. In the fragile one of his songs ends with a short clip of kiss or something too.

It was Lucas, yes. One of his better films, in my opinion and very artistic indeed :3

Oh and the song with the sounds of a woman having an orgasm is on Big Man With a Gun. Just put with a shiteload of distortion. Wouldn't have even guessed that's what it was when I first heard it

 

[Daedalus1942]

Basically I was just wondering how many of you Escapists listened to Nine Inch Nails, or any of Trent Reznor's music. Not many people I know listen to his music so I'm hoping i'll find some people here to talk about his albums etc.
So.. What's your favorite album/song/lyric?

I quite like the new direction he's done in with How to destroy Angels.
-Tabs<3-

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

I never really liked them much, they always seemed to me like a more watered-down, emo version of Ministry.

really? i'm fine with people not liking NIN, but i can't see any comparison to Ministry, unless you're talking about his (Jourgensen's) crappy early stuff (With Sympathy... /shudder). i've always thought it was kinda weak to even classify Ministry as industrial or electronic, since pretty much everything Jourgensen has done since the late '80s is closer to speed-metal.

OT: i like NIN in general, but The Fragile is definitely my favorite of his albums. love every track on there except for Starfuckers, Inc..

I loved starfuckers. Always made me laugh at memories of people on the net bagging the shit out of Justin bieber.
But I can see why you might not like it. It is a bit... Yeah.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

THX 1138, is that that movie by.... Who was it by again? George Lucas? Yeah that was quite artistic of him. And one of his songs has a sound clip of porn but I can't remember which one. In the fragile one of his songs ends with a short clip of kiss or something too.

It was Lucas, yes. One of his better films, in my opinion and very artistic indeed :3

Oh and the song with the sounds of a woman having an orgasm is on Big Man With a Gun. Just put with a shiteload of distortion. Wouldn't have even guessed that's what it was when I first heard it

I knew exactly what it was when I first heard it. I was like 'whaaa?' but it fitted with the song so I'm not complaining.
And I always get funny responses when I show friends mr self destruct and I tell them the sound at the start is the sound of a cop beating up a civilian.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Thanks for the add julianking93

OT: has anyone else listened to the social network soundtrack? It just made the movie so good, such good music.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Never been a huge fan.

I've noticed that lots of people like to jerk-off Johnny Cash when it comes to his sub par cover of "Hurt". For the record, let me say that the original is and always will be better than the cover, even if Johnny Cash is the one covering it.

 

[ultimateownage]

Nine Inch Nails are fucking awesome. Though their albums cost way too much. I mean really, £10 for Broken? It only has 6 tracks!

Spoiler: Some of my favourite NIN songs that haven't been mentioned a million times yet.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Never been a huge fan.

I've noticed that lots of people like to jerk-off Johnny Cash when it comes to his sub par cover of "Hurt". For the record, let me say that the original is and always will be better than the cover, even if Johnny Cash is the one covering it.

Yeah me, my friends and even my science teacher agree that the original is better.
If you're a cash fan then by all means enjoy the cover, but it's stupid that a hell of a lot of people think that cash WROTE the darn song. Just look up the YouTube comments, it's stupid.

 

[Dfskelleton]

I quite like the fragile, but other than that I haven't heard much of their stuff. Shame I haven't because I liked the Fragile a lot.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Never been a huge fan.

I've noticed that lots of people like to jerk-off Johnny Cash when it comes to his sub par cover of "Hurt". For the record, let me say that the original is and always will be better than the cover, even if Johnny Cash is the one covering it.

Yeah me, my friends and even my science teacher agree that the original is better.
If you're a cash fan then by all means enjoy the cover, but it's stupid that a hell of a lot of people think that cash WROTE the darn song. Just look up the YouTube comments, it's stupid.

I've seen them all, and those people are morons. Perhaps their just ignorant to the fact.

But I am a Johnny Cash fan and grew up listening to lots of alt.country stuff. I think NIN are boring and pretentious. And I STILL LIKE THE ORIGINAL MORE.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

I hated them when I was a kid but they have grown on me recently. I prefer other industrial bands like Machine Head and Rammstein but I've been meaning to give NIN a closer listen, thanks for reminding me!

I cannot think of a single song by Machine Head that I would label "industrial". Maybe we're thinking of two different bands? Albums like "The Blackening", "Through the Ashes of Empire", etc?

Sigh, I hate myself. I was thinking of Fear Factory but, for some reason, put Machine Head. I don't even really like Machine Head
So yeah, edit: Fear Factory

I like both bands, but Fear Factory hold a special place in my heart for being one of my earliest metal bands. I got "Obsolete" and "Demanufacture" through some mail order catalog without having heard the band. Turned out to be totally worth it.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Never been a huge fan.

I've noticed that lots of people like to jerk-off Johnny Cash when it comes to his sub par cover of "Hurt". For the record, let me say that the original is and always will be better than the cover, even if Johnny Cash is the one covering it.

Yeah me, my friends and even my science teacher agree that the original is better.
If you're a cash fan then by all means enjoy the cover, but it's stupid that a hell of a lot of people think that cash WROTE the darn song. Just look up the YouTube comments, it's stupid.

I've seen them all, and those people are morons. Perhaps their just ignorant to the fact.

But I am a Johnny Cash fan and grew up listening to lots of alt.country stuff. I think NIN are boring and pretentious. And I STILL LIKE THE ORIGINAL MORE.

I find that quite interesting, that a nin fan that doesn't listen to Johnny cash and a Johnny cash fan who dislikes nin come to the same conclusion, most country fans I'm guessing would be saying how cash turned an average song into a masterpiece.
I think it's because when Johnny Cash sang it, the end of every line ended on the same note. Go on, listen to it. EVERY SINGLE LINE he does the same note at the end, whereas Trent Reznor mixes it up a bit and keeps it fresh throughout the song.

 

[Ithera]

Not a big fan of Mr Reznor, I'd rather post a few choice words from his old pal Mr Nivek Ohgr.

 

[funguy2121]

NIN are pretty mainstream... they are like pop-industrial. They're good, but not the best. I think his new HOW TO DESTROY ANGELS project is better.

Hurt, Only, March of the pigs are nice. I think photek did a remix which is better tho.
If you like industrial, you ought to try skinny puppy and oHgr - they are better IMO.

Wow, another person who listens to, and appreciates oHgr... now if you want to find a band that not many people know of and like, but should, then oHgr is your band.

Listen to this individual, OP. Marry them if you can!
An oHgr fan is a very hard thing to find XD You seen REPO! ?
(Funny Captcha: Junior takest)

Calling NIN pop-industrial is just like calling Rancid pop-punk or claiming that Bad Brains and the Dead Kennedys weren't really punk because they had original sounds and merged punk with other styles.

I've enjoyed Foetus, Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle, KMFDM, Ministry, Sister Machine Gun, Coil and the like but the one thread that combines just about all of them is that it's very random, simplistic and lacking in production values. That's pretty par for the course for industrial music and I do appreciate a lack of polish (which is one reason I prefer Sublime's first studio album to their eponymous one). But there is absolutely nothing "pop" about NIN. Please, tell me exactly what part of "Heresy" or "Gave Up" belong in a playlist between Wacka Flacka Flame and that new "Friday Friday" song, or between Nickleback and the All-American Rejects?

Pop industrial would be more like Stabbing Westward or Gravity Kills or Linkin Park, bands who seem to think that adding screaming and faux-metal riffs to supersimple post-techno bleeps and bloops results in industrial music.

Also, I checked out How To Destroy Angels. Pretty cool stuff, but isn't it more trip-hop? Reminds me more of Portishead than NIN.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

Not a big fan of Mr Reznor, I'd rather post a few choice words from his old pal Mr Nivek Ohgr.

Hmmpfh.

You can't really go around insulting a massive band like NIN unless you can make good music. Nuff said.

 

[DVS Storm]

I'm a NIN fan. "Wish", "The Perfect Drug", "The Hand That Feeds" and "Head Like a Hole" are my favorites atm. I also love The Social Network's soundtrack and it was really awesome when he won an Oscar. Also the fact that Trent has worked with David Bowie(who is one of my favorite artists btw)is really cool. I suggest listening to "I'm Afraid of Americans" by David Bowie and NIN if you haven't heard it.