No job if you don't speak Polish.

[NickCooley]

It's a private company. If they only want to hire Polish speakers they can. If they only wanted to hire trapeze artists that can juggle chainsaws they could. Although I can't see them being very productive.

The only priority should be skills and I'd rather a hard working Polish immigrant get the job than a lazy native. But at the end of the day companies will do whatever they can to make money.

 

[The_Decoy]

Gah! Go learn your history for crying out loud.

Hong Kong was bought (or should I say loaned) from the Chinese for 100 years - legitimate and legal. It was returned on-time as per the accord. Seriously, get over yourself.
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Erm are you sure there? Wiki sides with me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War

Britain forced open trade routes and forced China to cede it to us. Not exactly "legitimate and legal", more like "surrender terms".

Also it was agreed to be returned in a treaty in 1984: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-British_Joint_Declaration

And actually I don't vote SNP. Or indeed at all, because there isn't really a left wing here anymore.

 

[StarkRavingSane]

A British factory hireing Polish speaking workers is absurd. The fact that a lot of jobs in Poland (white collar jobs, that is) require you to speak English fluently is a sign of our times as English is the lingua franca. Making you speak a foreign language when you're a manual worker in your own country is putting it a few notches below reasonable.

re. the notion that we (the Poles) are stealing British jobs - I see it differently. If we are more effective it's only reasonable that we are hired and someone else, who is less effective, is not. If the British are faced with a situation where their skills or effectiveness are not enough they must raise their qualifications. Then the country gets more qualified native workers and benefits from the situation. The only thing I don't understand is why so many people complain instead of trying to be better workers.

Note: I've never been in the UK and my opinions are based on the experiences of my friends who have had the pleasure of working for some time in the UK.

On my part, if I ever happen to work in the UK or any other foreign country (which is possible, in Poland I may not find a job where I will fully utilise my skills) and if I'm as good as a native I expect to be paid no less than a native. If I happen to be better - I expect to be paid more.

However, how and where I spend my money is my business. Gratefulness and respect to a foreign country is one thing but I don't see why anyone should have the right to manage my personal budget.

 

[wolfy098]

yes this is a huge problem. But a bigger problem is a workplace which doesn't understand each other!

I do not agree with this at all, but if parsay it put someone's health at risk and they couldn't communicate with each other the guy is fucked!

Although what i do truely believe in is that IF YOU COME TO ENGLAND SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH!!!!!! ARGHHHHH! (sorry had to get that out)

I would go allot further than that.

If you want to come to our country you speak our language. You do the jobs we say you do. You take another British test if you are a doctor or a nurse, I don't give a shit what your country said you are. You get bottom priority in our school/housing/care systems.

Homeless people get less rights than immigrents. What sort of England looks after others over looking after her own?

Apart from the "you do the jobs we say you do" I agree with you...

They should however get free Ryan Air passes home.

 

[Lullabye]

Ah, capitalism. Can you taste the fury of the losers?
Hmm, I think.....they need to come out with one freakin language for the world already.(I say we get japan to do this, since they seem to be there already)
I never really had a problem with having to learn a language in order to work. I quite a bit o french and italian, so I'm fairly well off. If the employer doesn't want to hire people who don't know something, that's up to them. Of course, if your just being a dick, then I don't be surprised when people start to get pissed at you(seriously, how hard is it to put those safety regulations in english? or any other language? I'm pretty sure "Danger: do not touch" can be universally translated.

 

[Margrave Rinstock]

We have a similar Problem here in Canada, Immigrants are Taking our Jobs.

Why? THEY DO THEM BETTER.

If we are inferior workers, then we DESERVE TO BE REPLACED. Our Caucasian Population will be Replaced by a Filipino Population, and I don't have a Problem with it.

If the amount of Unemployed men is (theoretically) a constant, I'd rather have a Hard-working Person Employed and the Lazy-Ass ones on the street.

That is the simple rule that I respect. If our Arabs, China men, and Filipinos and Your Poles do your Jobs better than you and I, than that's Tough. As it has been for millions of years, the strong will survive, the weak will perish.

If the situation is at all different in the Old world than here, Please, feel free to point out how naive I am, but, that's my take on immigration from what I've seen.

 

[SnipErlite]

In fairness a lot of the time Polish workers ARE the most efficient....

[sub]No really, have you ever watched English builders??[/sub]
[sub][sub]No offence to any English builders[/sub][/sub]

 

[rt052192]

Polish Power!

 

[Nerf Ninja]

Where I work (airport) some of the franchises based there actually only hired directly from Poland, the jobs weren't even advertised in England. They flew them over and helped them find places to stay simply because they were cheaper and were prepared to work longer. The majority of immigrants are here because they want to work, but even then every single immigrant worker is still a minority compared to the native population. The only reason the "lazy" English stereotype came about is because there are more of them so the percentage of lazy bums is higher.

The "lazy" Polish aren't going to bother travelling to work in another country, and that's why the immigrants are seen as hardworkers.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

A) Are the people who happened to be born in England somehow better people who are more deserving of jobs than people born elsewhere? Last I checked, no. If a British person were willing to do the same work for less, I'd be willing to warrant that they'd get the job just as easily (if not more easily) than a foreign worker. If the problem really is "stealing" jobs why are you so quick to point out that it's all the fault of foreign workers?

B) Would you complain if British workers were showing up and saying they would work for cheaper than other British workers? No, I should think not (since this IS happening and you aren't complaining). This is just simple economics, employers go with whoever will do the best job at the cheapest price. If the native British aren't remaining competitive, that's THEIR fault, not the fault of those coming over who ARE willing to offer better rates.

C) The linguistic issue here is just patently absurd. Every job in England should require just English? Why? I could see your point if they were having trouble filling the positions because there just weren't enough Polish workers, but that's certainly not the case.

D) Australia's immigration policy is childish and nationalistic. It, along with other such schemes, once again acts as though humans born in a certain place are somehow entitled to a better life and "those other people over there" can just fuck off because they weren't lucky enough to be born HERE. It sounds like some fucking kindergartener who doesn't want to share his cookies.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

This is awesome, it's nice to know America isn't the only country with this problem.

 

[wolfy098]

yes this is a huge problem. But a bigger problem is a workplace which doesn't understand each other!

I do not agree with this at all, but if parsay it put someone's health at risk and they couldn't communicate with each other the guy is fucked!

Although what i do truely believe in is that IF YOU COME TO ENGLAND SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH!!!!!! ARGHHHHH! (sorry had to get that out)

I would go allot further than that.

If you want to come to our country you speak our language. You do the jobs we say you do. You take another British test if you are a doctor or a nurse, I don't give a shit what your country said you are. You get bottom priority in our school/housing/care systems.

Homeless people get less rights than immigrents. What sort of England looks after others over looking after her own?

Apart from the "you do the jobs we say you do" I agree with you...

They should however get free Ryan Air passes home.

Why should they take jobs from English people? They should have the jobs noone else wants. Apart from if they are like a doctor in which they take the test I mentioned.

Because companies shouldn't lose the benefit of cheap labour.

 

[Danik93]

See, the capitalist business men dont care about you or their fellow country men.

They only care for their money.

And as polish people are cheaper and much more hardworking, business men are going to use this.

If you have 1 lazy guy and 1 hardworking guy singing up for the same job you pick the hardworking guy... simple logic.

Yes i agree, although i guess my post held one view point, but ye lots of polish people are generally very hardworking, although i do think there are englishmen that work hard aswell, and just as hard.

Yes ofc! but as an employer you can decide who to employ and who not to employ. whatever the reasons. I agree that this example is horrid, but as a citizen in a country that's a member in EU you can get a job allover EU. We are one big "happy" family.