I agree with this statement, but I feel I should point out that atheism is a faith, not a religion. In order for it to be a religion it would have to have a clear charter and heirarchy. Otherwise you are spot on, just me being picky about semantics.
And on that thought... An Atheist "Church," now -that- would bring all kinds of hilarity to the religious discussions.
Transexuals.
I don't understand why it's a mental disorder to feel like your arm isn't part of you but to feel like your body is of the wrong gender is a-okay.
And are you implying that transsexuality is a mental disorder? It's actually a result of hormonally altered structures in the brain, it's actually more of a mutation than a mental condition.
If you actually want to learn more, feel free to PM me, I shall spare the other posters my rants.
Seriously? You fellt like you needed to correct my spelling? Did it make you feel better to do so? I made another typo, just for you
I'm not implying anything. I am not a docto so saying it's a mental disorder when it is not classified as one would just be stupid. I am saying it doesn't make sense to me.
This is why I can never get an answer or have this make sense. As soon as I say that it doesn't make sense to me I get this huge backlash like I'm a monster who should have perfect knowledge and understanding of everything. You know. Like GOD.
I think the reason you never get a reply is that when someone offers to tell you about it you act like a victim. Might want to do a bit of research sometimes.
Good for you. Did you actually want to come up with something constructive or is this one of those things people do when they have nothing better to say?
I'm gonna go off the beaten path and say certain sexual fetishes, namely the ones that involve any sort of excrement. How anyone can be turned on by what the body itself defines as waste so definitely eludes my logic processors.
And anal sex. As far as I'm concerned, it's a one-way exit.
I don't understand people that commit crime. I can't wrap my head around how somebody can be so immature that they don't develop a sense of responsibility or empathy for other people by the time they reach adulthood. Spur of the moment reactions are just down to willpower, or lack thereof, but commiting a planned and organised crime with a clear thought process behind that exists for nothing other than personal gain is an action I will never understand.
There's probably a lot more things I could list, but off the top of my head, it's this sort of behaviour that makes me go into a kind of irrational rage.
We're all biased, at the end of the day. None of us really know a single thing about the world we live in for what it truly is, because every detail of it is skewed abd distorted by our own personal mindset, wants, hopes, fears, values and opinions, whether we know it or not. True open mindedness doesn't exist.
You've clearly never experienced desperation, TRUE desperation. Like, life or death kind of desperation.
If you knew what it was like to find yourself trapped by either bad decisions, bad luck, or a combination of the two, with little to no hope on the horizon, you might be driven to lash out in order to save yourself.
That is probably the origin of criminal activity.
Otherwise it's usually dumbass kids trying to live the thug life.
I don't understand people that commit crime. I can't wrap my head around how somebody can be so immature that they don't develop a sense of responsibility or empathy for other people by the time they reach adulthood. Spur of the moment reactions are just down to willpower, or lack thereof, but commiting a planned and organised crime with a clear thought process behind that exists for nothing other than personal gain is an action I will never understand.
There's probably a lot more things I could list, but off the top of my head, it's this sort of behaviour that makes me go into a kind of irrational rage.
We're all biased, at the end of the day. None of us really know a single thing about the world we live in for what it truly is, because every detail of it is skewed abd distorted by our own personal mindset, wants, hopes, fears, values and opinions, whether we know it or not. True open mindedness doesn't exist.
I think that you should read "Crime and Punishment".
Crime/murder isn't necessarily bad. You can help a mankind if you murder someone who isn't really useful to community and who oppresses other people. Moral principles. However maybe you just don't justify killing at all - even if it includes doing it for good.
that people still buy COD.
that people enjoy the Seltzer Berg movies.
inb4
that we still have console wars mark my words when the PS4/WII2/Xbox 720 the mods are going to have their hands full deleting 720VSPS4 threads.
PS
people who follow a religion so they don,t end up in hell.
You don't understand console wars which is one group of people saying they like something and the other group is wrong for liking another thing and vice versa you even reinforce that point with a big picture and yet you also don't understand why people buy COD.Guess what its because they like it.
The whole sympathy for paedophiles thing that goes on around here. I mean whenever it comes up and people naturally get angered by a child being abused, social/tribal creatures that we are, you always get some whiny, bleeding heart oik spouting "You're just like the people that hate homosexuals!"
Because apparently despising those that molest children or entertain the thoughts of doing so means I'm on the same level of people that hate two consensual adults having sex. Then there's the whole "They can't help what they are attracted to!" Well so fucking what? You don't let a pyromaniac burn stuff down because they can't fight of the urge to do so and say "they can't help it, oh well". No you ship them off to therapy and help them with their problem. Same with Kleptomaniacs, you have an impulsive, uncontrollable urge to steal things? Therapy, off you go.
Yet because a Paedophiles issue is sexual in nature I'm being a biggot?
Because it is that real life person decision to be fat or muscular while the frictional character is not suppose to be fat or muscular in the first place. Yes it's the fanart artist who alter that character to be that way so it like being force to be fat or muscular (yes I know the character are not real but still).
I know people like it but I just don't understand why since I cannot relate them for liking something that is many think you're a weirdo.
You say "but still," but I don't think you're really supporting that. The whole point of fan art is to take liberties with the subject material for the sake of personal expression. As for the last part, I hope you can at least understand what it's like from their perspective, seeing as you're a brony and all. You may still not understand why it is they like it, but at least you can understand what it's like to like something "weird," right?
Ok it's more like taking a character you like and then that artish tarnish everything about that character. Ok yes this can be apply to many things like rule 34 or drawing that person out of character but changing the phyiscal apperances of that character into something unappealing that I cannot stand.
Yes that would be somewhat hypercritic of me since I'm a Brony but the things is or at least from my stand point is that the whole fat and muscular is seen as a fetish and yes even there is pony fetish out there but I am no where near into that at all.
Beside last time I check, the "weird" thing I'm into is accepted by a wide range of audiences and is praise for it's positive nature. I'm pretty sure that the audience level for fat or muscular fanarts is no where near that level.
EDIT-If you going to quote me than don't expect a reply for a while (I'm off to bed now).
I'm not saying that they support it now, I bet they do feel bad and regret it, I just don't see how back then it happened, I just don't see why. Yes some of the crusades could be justified but their were a lot of bad things that happened that didn't need to happen and I don't get why.
The second part is how any church that says love your brother like yourself can in any way support war.
Religion. I can't wrap my head around willful delusions like that. Yes, I know it's not the popular stance to take, nor politically correct, but I just can't look at any of the religions I know and figure out why people believe in it. It's got the same factual weight as santa claus and makes about as much sense from any logical perspective and yet these religions are not only widespread beliefs but it's political and at times even social suicide to speak against them.
It's mindboggling to me. There's no scientifically backed indication of any of it having even a nugget of truth to it and yet it's 'narrowminded' or 'hateful' to point out the ridiculousness of it all.
I'll of course respect anyone's right to believe in these things, but the most aneurysm inducing part of it all is that there's no respect given to those who believe religion holds about as much water as a sieve.
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
I think you guys tend to generalize religion and portray it in more of a bad light than it deserves. There are many things about religion that have benefits. Yes, there are negatives to religion, but there are negatives to everything. Yes, the more zealous religious folk can do some very immature and very mean things, but so can a very zealous atheist.
Religion, in general, should serve one purpose for people: comfort. This comfort comes in many ways. It may come as comfort living in a bad situation, or handed a bit bit of bad luck, wondering why that is. Isn't the thought that maybe some unknown force that maybe has your eventual best interest in mind a more soothing thought that just thinking that your life is shit for no reason? That maybe, you are suffering now, but after you die you will enter into a paradise so blissful it cannot be described? Also, doesn't the idea that someone shaped us in His image make us sound so much more important than such an insignificant speck in the confines of the universe?
Yes, in some ways, it is blocking out the truth, and I believe everyone should try to be as educated and knowledgable of the world as they can, but sometimes, people don't want to learn that they are insignificant and useless. That's a very depressing thought that makes everything they do seem meaningless. Sometimes, working for the goal of heaven makes the suffering of life more tolerable, and while I think being a zealot and willingly blocking out knowledge is indeed a problem, religion serves many comforting roles. Also, religion, while indeed outdated in many regards, has many timeless parables. The Golden Rule? Treat Others as You Would Want To Be Treated? Is that outdated? You may say that that should be common knowledge, but it isn't. Sometimes, we need a book to tell us so.
In addition, I think religion can be mixed with scientific thought. I believe that God is some sort of creator, but he does not intervene in our lives. He carves and places the dominoes, knocks the first one over, and then watches. He does not meddle in our affairs. He does not bring hurricanes, or suffering, or death. People and the natural causes of the Earth do. And while he may have created all of this, I believe mankind is slowly discovering how he did it. Every new discovery about the world is just uncovering more and more of God's design. It was already there, we are just discovering more pages of God's "How to Build a Universe" book. And not only does that reconcile the ideas of religion and science, it makes me excited for the pursuit of knowledge and science.
Finally, I agree with you on one point that I know you probably have: no, religion should not be used as some sort of reasoning for hate. That is unacceptable in any regard, for any mode of thinking. If science was somehow used as some sort of reasoning for hate, I would chastise those people just as quickly as I would someone who abused religion.
This is just a short version of why religion is not as bad as you make it out to be. I could discuss how it was influential in a historical standpoint, but you three seem to understand already. I don't want to sound pompous in this post, I just think religion gains more hate than it deserves, only because a number of close-minded fools abuse it, like they would abuse anything else.
Also,
Insanum said:
There are just two things I cant stand, People who are intolerant of other peoples races & beliefs, and the dutch.
Transexuals.
I don't understand why it's a mental disorder to feel like your arm isn't part of you but to feel like your body is of the wrong gender is a-okay.
And are you implying that transsexuality is a mental disorder? It's actually a result of hormonally altered structures in the brain, it's actually more of a mutation than a mental condition.
If you actually want to learn more, feel free to PM me, I shall spare the other posters my rants.
Seriously? You fellt like you needed to correct my spelling? Did it make you feel better to do so? I made another typo, just for you
I'm not implying anything. I am not a docto so saying it's a mental disorder when it is not classified as one would just be stupid. I am saying it doesn't make sense to me.
This is why I can never get an answer or have this make sense. As soon as I say that it doesn't make sense to me I get this huge backlash like I'm a monster who should have perfect knowledge and understanding of everything. You know. Like GOD.
I think the reason you never get a reply is that when someone offers to tell you about it you act like a victim. Might want to do a bit of research sometimes.
Good for you. Did you actually want to come up with something constructive or is this one of those things people do when they have nothing better to say?
Ok, I'll throw another idea in that's not quite as poignant as my previous one. I cannot comprehend why people would not like to read books. It blows my mind. What blew my mind even more was at university, there were people on my English Literature course that didn't like reading books. Now that thought definitely makes my face twist grotesquely in confusion.
-KC- said:
I think that you should read "Crime and Punishment".
Crime/murder isn't necessarily bad. You can help a mankind if you murder someone who isn't really useful to community and who oppresses other people. Moral principles. However maybe you just don't justify killing at all - even if it includes doing it for good.
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