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The idea of being asexual. Part of me just accepts that on the person's merit, but the more I think about it, the more I just can't grasp the idea of that. That somehow, this person just hasn't met the right person or the right scenario. Just that something, one day, would suddenly turn them on.

When I get onto these tangents, I realize I'm most likely just talking out of my ass.
 

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I don't understand why people can't understand somethings. stop saying it's not logical as if your logic is the only logic
 

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I cannot for the life of me understand willful ignorance. Now, there's plenty of people who've never had a chance at an advanced education; they can hardly be faulted for that. But when people turn their backs on an opportunity to learn, to grow intellectually- that's where I just have to sit back and scratch my head.
 

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Dosvidonya said:
Missionaries
I find the idea of it totally repulsive. That these religious groups have the audacity of going to other nations, that are less well off, and pretty much saying, "Hey we'll help you and give you food and water... but only if you ditch your peoples cultures and language and adapt ours." It's sick, and the worst part is that they really don't help at all. They don't teach them how to grow food or how to maintain things, they just give out handouts and then leave the people to fend for themselves. So in the end an old and interesting culture, and language, is erased and the people aren't left off any better.
i'm not going to argue with you because i'm terrible at those but i feel that you are wrong on this subject just because you adapt something into your culture doesn't mean it's erased forever.
 

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No matter how open-minded I try to be, I cant for my life understand...

Religious extremism

Religion itself I can understand , unlike a fair few in this thread it seems. Religion brings comfort, religion brings spirituality. Im not religious, but I understand its been a long part of human history and it fills up a certain gap in the human being that many need.
But at religious extremism that's where I draw the line. To me religious extremism is defined as when you have such extreme views on your religion that you feel compelled to bring and try to enforce this view upon others, or bring plenty of hate upon others that feel differently. It comes in many ways, and its nothing short of poorly disguised tyranny. Of course, its also a somewhat mutual effect from non-religious people that target ALL religious people, no matter if they're zealots or not. Perhaps I should say "the conflict around religion" instead.


Also

Anti-enviromentalism

Call me a hippie, but I cannot for my life understand how people can A: Flatly deny that global warming or enviromental problems exist or B: Not realize that it should be high on any responsible states or parties agenda.
The true majority of repubtable scientists in the field on the -planet- supports the theories and its only ignorance and greed that's preventing real meausures from being taken. And the fact that my possible future children has a VERY high chance of living on a screwed up planet because of these people is pissing me off.


Of course, there are a ton of other things, but that's the stuff at the top of my head.
 

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Well, not to sound like I'm an exception, but there really isn't much I can't wrap my head around if you put enough logical though into it. From things like why people steal to why do people like 'pain with their pleasure' when it comes to their sex life, you can always break it down logically.

If I really don't get something, it's either because I don't want to or simply because I don't have enough insight about the topic/action. That happens every so often, but I usually figure things out after a while.
 

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Matthew94 said:
Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
This, so much this.

Every time I poke a huge whole in how BS a religion is (I don't actively do this btw) people I know just shrug and say "that's what I believe".
Meh. Most people don't take the time to actually learn about their damn religion, so that's all they really can say.
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people who don't accept evolution because they are religious or whatever. Its like how can you not believe in something that has been proven by scientific FACT?, or when they go "the scientific community is divided on this matter" NO IT FUCKING ISN'T. and when the come up with the stupidest arguments to support there opinions for example: "where are the transitional fossils?" EVERY FOSSIL IS A TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL (is that how you spell fossil? i dunno) "why aren't monkeys at the zoo evolving into humans???" when they pull this one out of there ass i have a "i don't want to live n this planet anymore" moment and i go mental and break shit!.
This. I hate intentionally ignorant people, who use their ignorance as a shield. It's bad enough that the Creationists use bad science to explain their thoughts, but some people outright deny evolution, on the basis that 'The bible tells me so.' Which brings me to my personal hatred, which I cannot understand no matter what I do.

"Because *blank* tells me so."

Hell no! Think for yourself for once! I'm a full Roman Catholic, and yes I know what the Bible says, but many of the rules in there were for a different age, a different people, a different culture. 'A woman must be a virgin before marriage, and can be stoned for adultery if not.' Yeah. Good luck with that. Hell, there's even a law in Leviticus saying to not play with the skin of a pig (goodbye football)! Those rules are now more or less useless. Homosexuals didn't choose that life, any more than I chose to be heterosexual. Really, there are perhaps 12 laws in the whole of the Bible that should still be considered today. 9 even if you are not christian, or are even atheistic. I am willing (and often do) go toe to toe with any Christian who doubts me, and anyone else who would like to challenge me.

My absolute favorite question that pricks like extremist anti-gays and Anti-Evolutionists is, "Have you even read the Bible?" This seems to be the default position of last resort. To this, I reply, "Yes. Have you?"

I suppose that means I can't understand intentionally close-minded people who never think, and instead take it all on belief.
 

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This thread is turning to a crucifixion of religious people. For fucks sake, knock it off. I don't care if you don't understand why I have deities. But you don't have to be such an asshole about it. You people assume all religion-based morals are bad and that all religious people hate gays and don't believe in evolution. Did it occur to you people that there's more than one religion and more than one way to follow a religion? Of course it didn't. Because you people don't think. You just look for any excuse to hate those who are different from you. You're no better than the particular kinds of religious people you criticize.

And that's what I don't get. People who assume the worst of all religions and faiths and clearly have never heard of "hypocrisy". Tolerance is a two-way street.
 

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Heimir said:
Kopikatsu said:
Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
Yeeeep. Religion and drugs for me.

Since religion was covered...drugs. I definitely want to risk permanent damage so that I can black out and wake up feeling like shit in some strange place. Sounds like a good time to me.
Drugs rule bro. Just gotta know yer way around them. When in doubt, do pot. Just don't overdo it and it's all good. And by drugs i assume you mean alcohol and cigarettes as well.

And people already beat me to religion as well. Hats off to Kopikatsu!

So other than religion. I guess football and ball-sports in general is something I cant wrap my head around and its fans are some of the most obnoxious pricks ever to grace the planet.
And the sports themselves are usually just a bunch of braindead degenerates kicking a round object around into a net like a bunch of dogs and then get paid ludicrous amounts for it. It's not like they are stopping worldhunger or curing cancer people. It's a bunch of reprobates kicking a ball around... Can we get out of the stone-age please?
that whole thing about sports? it was just... stupid
 

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SUPER SNIP!
Xero Scythe said:
."Because *blank* tells me so."
THIS (which needs some context) I was visiting my girlfriend while she was still living with her parents. So I would go to church with them if they wanted me to (I would feel like an ass for saying no or complaining since they are insanely nice). But one time I was staying there and went to church the pastor was speaking about someone who was seconds away from murdering/sacrificing his own son. Why? Because God/some angel (I can't remember) told him to do it to test his faith.

It took every single nerve and ounce of restraint not to stand up and start shouting at how insanely stupid that is. I bit the inside of my cheek hard enough to actually break the skin was how much I wanted to freak out. But I don't like berating people or being an asshole. I respect and try to show tolerance and understanding to everyone regardless of the situation, I do my best to be polite and kind to others. But damn did that push me to my limit.

Also don't understand extremism, as well as 2012 and the world ending. Which I got into an argument about yesterday with two guys I work with. Who were saying that the world was going to end because all the planets and sun will be aligned BS that I didn't care for at the moment. I said "it sounds just like Y2K" and they freaked out saying that science pretty much proved it.
 

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Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
I understand where you're coming from as I'm a very outspoken atheist as well, but I know why people generally turn to religion. It can be a source of advice or comfort to those in need of it and can give you a sense of community.

But from a more cynical perspective, it also let's some people say "It's not my fault! It's my fate to rob that store!" Turning to religion for indemnification is one of the messed up things in this world. And then there are religious wars/violence. Or the Christian extremists that criticize Muslim extremists for doing what is essentially the same thing that they do (condemning people for being different religions, etc. etc.).

tl;dr Religion for most people belonging to any faith is good. Taking it to the extremes is a big no-no.
 

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I don't get PETA, or anonymous, or any extremist group really.

I don't get why people complain about their problems and do nothing to fix it.

I don't get why my neighbor can claim disability checks and then build an addition to his house by himself.

I don't get why people hate ponies.

I don't get what the big deal is if homosexuals marry.

I don't get why I can't like COD and other popular games with out being labeled as a mainstream idiot by my "friends" while I still play games that I enjoy.

I don't get why people think that card games are for 11 year olds or virgins.

I don't get what the obsession is with beauty in our society.

I don't get what the over obsession is with sport and their athletes is.

I don't get why athletes get paid as much as they do.

I don't get why I can be beat up by a black man and him only be charged with assault but if I were to do it, it would become a hate crime as well.

I don't understand why the portrayal of male figures is so terrible/insulting in today's media yet women get to ***** up and down if there is something like the new Dr.Pepper commercial and no one says anything about it.

I don't get feminists who think they can do things better than any man. On that matter I don't get feminists who think the only way to create a well working society is to kick all the men out. (note: I support women's rights and that if they do an equal job as a man that they be treated no differently.)

On my last note, I don't understand why women wear revealing clothes if they don't want people to see that part of them.

Theres much more but I'll stop here.
 

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Belated said:
This thread is turning to a crucifixion of religious people. For fucks sake, knock it off. I don't care if you don't understand why I have deities. But you don't have to be such an asshole about it. You people assume all religion-based morals are bad and that all religious people hate gays and don't believe in evolution. Did it occur to you people that there's more than one religion and more than one way to follow a religion? Of course it didn't. Because you people don't think. You just look for any excuse to hate those who are different from you. You're no better than the particular kinds of religious people you criticize.

And that's what I don't get. People who assume the worst of all religions and faiths and clearly have never heard of "hypocrisy". Tolerance is a two-way street.
Thank you. You managed to say in a paragraph what I failed to say in a rant. I applaud you and your bravery.
 

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CrashBang said:
Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
I agree with what you're saying and see where you're cong from, being a very opinionated atheist as well, but even I have to admit to understanding that some people have faith simply as a comfort. Although I also see that as a huge weakness.
I sort of see whaere you're coming from. I don't understand how people can blindly follow a faith, even in the face of plausible evidence against a specific belief. However, I am not an athiest, nor am I agnostic. No, I am a Universalist, and in the true sense of the word. I spent a long time studying my initial religion and all subsequent ones that I researched, building my own specific set of spiritual beliefs that make sense for me.

I refuse atheism, since it would be absurd just to assume tha tthere's nothing else out there. Even Carl Sagan said that there is so much onformation in teh Universe that you really can't just say one thing or another is right (he was agnostic, by the way).

Therefore, I am a Universalist: rather than denying all of it, I embrace all of it, becasue why not?
 

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The people who claim Final Fantasy X is good. I mean, it's characters are awful, peripheral gameplay is pure shit, and the writing is among the worst i've seen in games. What do people see in that hideous wart on the ass of gaming?
 

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Revolutionaryloser said:
Kingpopadopalus said:
I don't get PETA, or anonymous, or any extremist group really.

I don't get why people complain about their problems and do nothing to fix it.

I don't get why my neighbor can claim disability checks and then build an addition to his house by himself.

I don't get why people hate ponies.

I don't get what the big deal is if homosexuals marry.

I don't get why I can't like COD and other popular games with out being labeled as a mainstream idiot by my "friends" while I still play games that I enjoy.

I don't get why people think that card games are for 11 year olds or virgins.

I don't get what the obsession is with beauty in our society.

I don't get what the over obsession is with sport and their athletes is.

I don't get why athletes get paid as much as they do.

I don't get why I can be beat up by a black man and him only be charged with assault but if I were to do it, it would become a hate crime as well.

I don't understand why the portrayal of male figures is so terrible/insulting in today's media yet women get to ***** up and down if there is something like the new Dr.Pepper commercial and no one says anything about it.

I don't get feminists who think they can do things better than any man. On that matter I don't get feminists who think the only way to create a well working society is to kick all the men out. (note: I support women's rights and that if they do an equal job as a man that they be treated no differently.)

On my last note, I don't understand why women wear revealing clothes if they don't want people to see that part of them.

Theres much more but I'll stop here.
You don't sound very open minded.
Open minded and not understanding are two different things.