Noel Gallagher: "Brutal Videogames" A Reason For London Riots

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HalfTangible

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Does anyone else think the real problem with the modern age is that nobody actually blames the person who DID the act anymore?
 

putowtin

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Earnest Cavalli said:
Before you all jump to the comments to widely criticize Gallagher, likely with childish insults about his music and hair, it should also be pointed out that these are the words of a man who is watching his home devour itself in real-time. A shop owned by his brother Liam was hit by looters, and Gallagher's words sound more like the impassioned, helpless cries of a man who just wants the violence to end.
but unlike the people around him, he can get on his private jet and bugger off, and yes his brothers store got looted, but he can afford it, how about the store owners who have lost everything they have worked all of their lives to achieve and have already been warned that by the time they get an insurance pay out (if they get one at all) it'll be too late.

We all want the violence to end, we are all sick and tired, yet we have to get on with it, not spout nonsense in tabloids and get paid (very well) for it.
 

KafkaOffTheBeach

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Look, im not going to say we should just accept human nature but come the fuck on.

Its not like this shit has been happening since the dawn of man kind, right? This desensitization to violence is a completely new thing, right? RIGHT? No its fucking not! For fucks sake, im fed up of reading this bullshit argument again and again and again. This rise in violence, getting used to violence shit, is none existent. Fucking hell, we live in the most peaceful and civilized age the west has ever witnessed and people will argue movies are getting people used to blood. Bullshit.

Not only that, but you seem to have completely mis-interpreted the point of American Psycho. Jesus.
I don't think you understand a tiny thing called 'scale'.
Or 'schadenfreude'.
Yeah- we as a species are almost genetically predisposed towards violence, but in the modern era it has turned into something strange and alien in a massive swathe of first-world countries. From that alienation to violence, and to forms of violence, we get the contrast that we are bombarded with images of real world violence and fantasy violence nearly every single time we turn on the television, and so we become desensitised because we cannot understand, nor empathise, but we sort of know that we should.
But, then again, we also find enjoyment because it isn't happening to us.
So the desensitisation isn't so much 'getting used to' or 'creating people who are predisposed towards shedding' blood - but more...well...taking away the idea of any 'real world' consequence attached to that violence.

But, like I said, there isn't any real point in looking for a scapegoat, be it physical or not.

Also - its like you believe that American Psycho has only one point.
Which is crazy.
So would you seriously say that American Psycho doesn't support points about or discuss desensitisation to violence in modern society, or the primal want for violence found in the relatively sterile environments of late 20th/early 21st century society?
I mean, to use it like I did as a throwaway text with Camus and Palahniuk to support doesn't really give it credit - but the idea and the place of violence in modern society is a pretty fucking major thematic point in American Psycho.
Unless you use the whole thing as an allegory for hell based on the opening from Dante and the subtle reference in closing to Satre's No Exit.
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Nope, thinking about it, it still remains totally relevant.

But I suppose that's what I get for falling into the trap I already described by distancing myself completely, emotionally, subconsciously etc. by rationalising views about it using works of fiction that deal with modern issues and the cultural psyche....
 

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Sheryl Crow once gave some advice. She said that we all should only use one sheet of paper when wiping our bottoms. We were allowed to use more if the job was "Heavy duty".

Rock stars talking through their bottom is not a new thing and I shall do what I have always done.

I will ignore them.
 

Reaper69lol

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Yet again, games are the scapegoat. Getting a little sick of people blaming games for everything. Why can't we live in the world where games are just games, and real issues are focused on. Rather than pointing a finger at the easiest media to blame, why not focus on actually resolving the issue, or helping in some form. Nothing is achieved by these ridiculous statements. However I can understand Noel's desire to jump on 'blame games' wagon. After all, nobody wants to be forgotten huh?
 

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If this was 20 years ago, it would be that damn rock n roll music that is causing all these riots.
If it was 30 years ago, it would be that gosh dang jitterbug.
 

EdwardOrchard

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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Noel Gallagher have a really troubled and violent childhood? According to Wiki, he was put on probation at the age of thirteen for robbery, expelled from school at 15. I'd heard that he was constantly getting into fights while growing up (Thank you "History of New Music with Alan Cross").

From this, I can draw two conclusions, either:
Violent pricks are violent pricks, regardless of whether or not they play video games, or
Pac-Man desensitized the hell out of Noel Gallagher.
 

IkeGreil29

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Blast him and the Finland murderer. We're getting so much shit for things we have no control over. It's not my problem your government can't handle its people. And the riots were not started by rich bastards, they were started by the lower class. That they joined shows how frustrated they are. Games are an excellent way to reduce that frustration and stress. I never feel the need to go punch or shoot a guys guts partially due to knowledge of consequence (something these idiots don't have) and partially thanks to videogames that let my mind be free of stress or take it out on digital people who don't exist.
 

KILGAZOR

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This isn't news. Escapist staff, please, stop reporting on this kind of non-news, it only gives the whiners more attention.
 

Coffinshaker

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Kind of a tie in with the whole riot thing, I did a little comic. But yeah, there's obviously only one game that would cause riots in England...

[http://coffin-comics.jesterbrand.com/2011/08/14/lawless-london/]
 

The Lunatic

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To be fair, at least he doesn't single out video games and mentioned TV as well.

... More than most of these loonies do.
 

agiganticpanda

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Ah, well it's a good thing not many people care about the Gallaghers. Now if we were to talk about the guy who hits watermelons.... now that's an opinion I want to know about.