Have you read Steam's that lets them do the same?doggie015 said:
And don't forget google! And just about every other place that wants to use people as market research.
Notch Calls Origin "a Good Thing"
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And don't forget google! And just about every other place that wants to use people as market research.
I just looked it up. (I knew about it earlier, but first time looking it up)Krantos said:
The prices are great. Much lower than Steam or Origin (ME3 is about 10 euro more expensive on Origin than on Impulse; Amnesia The Dark Descend is ~3.5 euro on impulse and ~15 on Steam). There is just 1 problem. There are no games that are available in my country.
Everything I've looked up is only available in the US and UK. Too bad that they don't know that the world is bigger than those 2 countries. My only real option is Steam. Buying them in local stores... if I'm lucky to even find them, they will be at least 10% more expensive than on Steam. Origin is more expensive than Steam. Other don't offer anything in my region.
Oh yeah, there is GoG. I have some games on it, but they offer only older games. I have most of the once that I'm interested in.
And Captcha... great commercial.
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Found "some" games that I can buy, but nothing interesting or new. Still, gonna keep an eye on it. Maybe they change that part.
Yeah, but if they actually did that then their position would be invalid, and they couldn't shout anymore. And boy, do they love shouting!AmrasCalmacil said:
Which is why they're currently having a huge 50% off sale, including stuff like BF3.Waaghpowa said:
Well the only thing I love about origin over Steam is that Downloading from the EA servers in Australia doesn't take for-Fucking-ever. Other than that, its just another Digital Distro. I use steam more because most of my games are on it and so are quite a few of my friends, but its not like just because I use steam I only have to use Steam and if I try to run them at the same time my PC will explode (in fact, my clan uses steam chat while playing BF3 to VOIP chat).
Basically, Origin is still not the end of the world. Apart from occasionally popping up when Starting BF3 its not real issue. I use it when I need it, and use steam when I need it. No issue.
And to the guy who said tons of people hate the Battlelog system, That hatred has actually died down. Battlelog actually gets you into games far faster than any of Dice's other messes of Server browsers (Battlefield 2 often would not load half of the available servers, you had to keep refreshing to get the one you wanted, BC2 Made downloading in Australia look like a breeze to simply log in to the game...). I still can't believe people interpreted the lack of ingame browser as having no browser at all...
Basically, Origin is still not the end of the world. Apart from occasionally popping up when Starting BF3 its not real issue. I use it when I need it, and use steam when I need it. No issue.
And to the guy who said tons of people hate the Battlelog system, That hatred has actually died down. Battlelog actually gets you into games far faster than any of Dice's other messes of Server browsers (Battlefield 2 often would not load half of the available servers, you had to keep refreshing to get the one you wanted, BC2 Made downloading in Australia look like a breeze to simply log in to the game...). I still can't believe people interpreted the lack of ingame browser as having no browser at all...
Calling Origin "competition" is a bit of a laugh. It does NOTHING that Steam doesn't do as well or better, and if you don't want the Origin exclusives, there's no reason to use it.
A better "competition" would be from gog.com, which has some drawbacks and some advantages over Steam (ie. no DRM). Thus, it's a product someone might actually want to use.
A better "competition" would be from gog.com, which has some drawbacks and some advantages over Steam (ie. no DRM). Thus, it's a product someone might actually want to use.
No he didn't. I'll be blunt: that right there is not only a miseading title but aslo putting words in Notch's mouth.Mike Kayatta said:
Notch calls Origin's (and other digital distribution platforms) existance a good thing, he does not say the Origin, specifically, is good. It's a big difference: one is saying that monopoly as a buisness concept and practice is bad, the other is a small developer and very popular person weighing in with support of a specific and extremely unpopular product.
I know that this could be a simple mistake, it does happen, but this looks like using a very out of context quote by Notch to provide a sensationalist title in order to get more views. Not something I expect from the escapist.
I still don't see how Origin is hailed as the big Steam competitor when their biggest support is exclusive titles.
You can't compete with someone if only they are allowed to ship a certain product, thus no healthy competition.
You can't compete with someone if only they are allowed to ship a certain product, thus no healthy competition.
This happens every once in a while with Escapist articles. They'll take somethin out of context or even completely make up somethin to give the title more pop. Its unfortunate, but they've been doin it as long as I can remember and don't seem to care what people think of it.Scabadus said:
The fact that tons of people come into these threads and respond only to the thread title ensures they'll keep doin it too.
"Origin does a couple things badly compared to Steam," Notch admitted, "which is impressive since they had eight years to study Steam."
Good enough.
Good enough.
I love how Notch thinks.
"Origin is a good thing!
But its amazing how hard EA failed when they had all that time to plan it! But its a good thing they at least tried and failed!"
I dont know why, but i dont think theres anything Notch could say that wouldnt make me chuckle.
Oh, and F*CK YOU pizza hut! Its 6am! D:< why are you teasing me with your amazing pizza and bread sticks at an affordable price when i cant go out and buy it! Now im gunna be in the mood for it for another 4-6 hours.
"Origin is a good thing!
But its amazing how hard EA failed when they had all that time to plan it! But its a good thing they at least tried and failed!"I dont know why, but i dont think theres anything Notch could say that wouldnt make me chuckle.
Oh, and F*CK YOU pizza hut! Its 6am! D:< why are you teasing me with your amazing pizza and bread sticks at an affordable price when i cant go out and buy it! Now im gunna be in the mood for it for another 4-6 hours.
I can't help but remember back to the Games For Windows Live ridiculousness back in 2009-2010. The market did benefit from the competition, and steam prices for the likes of Warhammer 40k games and most titles carrying the service were lowered accordingly.
It started off nice, it was the first time that a big name had taken on steam with any proper chance of success, injecting the service straight into the games Microsoft made or produced, or just when the developers were looking for an alternative to DRM and Matchmaking.
But the complete and utter lack of updates and customer service were what broke that service, and I really hate to see the next big contender against Valve do the same thing. Broken implementation upon release. Updates loading incorrectly. Profile limitations. Often counter-productive customer service.
Now I'm not saying that Valve and Steam is in anyway flawless, and they suffered the exact same problems I listed above and more. The difference is that Steam has now got those problems (mostly) resolved, and apart from localisation and pricing issues, Steam has for the most part knocked all the competition out of the water.
Origin and EA has a chance to beat Valve at their own game, but they need to bridge that gap between the service and the customers, integrate better community options, and literally create the one-stop shop for gaming with competitive regional pricing and support.
...and it's EA, so that probably won't happen. Which is a shame.
It started off nice, it was the first time that a big name had taken on steam with any proper chance of success, injecting the service straight into the games Microsoft made or produced, or just when the developers were looking for an alternative to DRM and Matchmaking.
But the complete and utter lack of updates and customer service were what broke that service, and I really hate to see the next big contender against Valve do the same thing. Broken implementation upon release. Updates loading incorrectly. Profile limitations. Often counter-productive customer service.
Now I'm not saying that Valve and Steam is in anyway flawless, and they suffered the exact same problems I listed above and more. The difference is that Steam has now got those problems (mostly) resolved, and apart from localisation and pricing issues, Steam has for the most part knocked all the competition out of the water.
Origin and EA has a chance to beat Valve at their own game, but they need to bridge that gap between the service and the customers, integrate better community options, and literally create the one-stop shop for gaming with competitive regional pricing and support.
...and it's EA, so that probably won't happen. Which is a shame.
Versuvius said:
Did EITHER of you even read the article? He seems to not really care that it's specifically Origin. He just wants some, scratch that, ANY competition against Steam to exist, because Steam being the only game in town is "theoretically" bad for consumers.TheMadJack said:
Not the same as Steam, as it is not a mandatory component of using the service that you have to share access to your system with Valve.AmrasCalmacil said:
So the EULA may read the same, but in practice the two systems implement their data collection from your system differently.
And Google are different as they are collecting your browsing habits rather than poking around on your system. And have institutions like the EU on their back for doing so.
No, for the reasons above which have been explained may times, as to why the services are different....Frostbite3789 said:
