Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

[JackandTom]

it was quickly going into creeper territory.

That was intentional right?

OP: I do think its good that Notch got involved, but angry Notch is like Notch without a hat; it just ain't right!

 

[Woodsey]

.................... *goes on for eternity like that*...

Why wouldn't you go get help? Why would that effect you so badly? Why didn't the security guard do SOMETHING (even if it was to offer solace)? Why wasn't there a better investigation where you could get a sketch of the dude or security photage? just WHY?!

To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?

I'm sure that there's a bunch of people who could jump all over me for what I just said. But honestly? It's really a whole lot less about what I just said, and a whole lot more of "WHY?!" This whole thing's just bizarre.

Shocking, people don't react entirely logically in such situations. What a fascinating new scientific discovery this is.

(And she doesn't "just walk away", she found a security guard - who did fuck all - and then just tried to forget about it. Yeah, the whole thing is bizarre, but not because of her. )

 

[DugMachine]

Coming from someone that has fucking been a victim you have no idea what you're talking about. The emotion pain and the upset isn't even something you can comprehend without going through it.

Just stop.

I think you don't understand one simple concept: I'm not you.

For sexual assault, I would not give a shit in the vast majority of situations, and I know that for a fact.

For rape, I said that I HONESTLY DON'T SEE MYSELF being traumatized in most non-painful situations. Maybe I'd be wrong. There's only one way to know for sure. What I do know is that some victims of rape walk away emotionally pretty much fine, while others like you think that it is unable to comprehend, with everything in between.

Maybe YOU personally suffer extreme emotional pain, but to say I would suffer the same is insulting, and to say that the pain is incomprehensible is unfounded (and insulting to other victims that weren't harmed emotionally to your extent). I've been through a lot of nasty shit, and I see little that could compare emotionally for myself. As in, for me. Not you. Not him. Not them. Me.

And, like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just pulling this out of the air when you admittedly have zero experience with them.

You're ignoring what I said. You are an insult to other victims with your presumption that I would suffer like you would, or that all emotional pain is equal.

I'll repeat this: I don't hold much stock in my sexual organs. I already clarified that I see no real distinction outside of society's forced distinction between being forced to grab a creepy dude's arm and my hand being forced into creepy dude's crotch, so what makes you think that I'd be bothered by being forced to penetrate someone, even if it was unwilling, so long as it was painless?

You may as well be commenting on the flavour of the moon, for all the authority you have on the subject.

Kinda like how you have no authority on saying that he does or does not know what he is talking about and describing himself and not other people?
Not to sound like an ass here, but stop a moment, take a deep breath and reread his last posts. Sounds like you are getting riled up due to how the topic touches close to home, which is understandable and all, but in doing so, you are ignoring their post.

He's presuming to know what something is like when he has no way of even fathoming it. How he thinks he feels has no bearing on reality. You can think and imagine all you want, but if you don't have the experience, your words are hollow and empty.

Your experience is not universal, get over yourself.

 

[chadachada123]

I am compassionate, but I saw little reason to be gentle towards the guy that thinks he knows more about me than I do just because he suffers in a particular way.

I stand by my statement that his words are a direct insult to other victims, and am pointing it out so that hopefully he'll stop making generalizations like that in the future.

You should probably try reading a little harder, Boudi is a chick as far as we're all aware and basically admitted to suffering some kind of sexual assault in this thread.
Re-evaluate your stance, you're coming of as a bit of a twat.

Also no, it isn't an insult to other victims to assume that they would need some kind of help during an ordeal like that.
Do you get offended when someone offers you an umbrella when it rains?
You're not being insulted at all, come down off your high horse.

I didn't know her gender and used verbiage that started as gender-neutral and then switched to masculine after it was established that her gender was unknown to me, which is an accepted way of writing. Not that it makes much of a difference. And....I...of course I know that she admitted to it. She admitted it directly to me.

It's an insult to victims to say that they ABSOLUTELY WILL need some kind of help, and that the pain is ABSOLUTELY NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND to those that haven't experienced it, no matter what or who. THAT's the insulting part, the absolutism.

What stance is there to re-evaluate? She made overarching claims about knowing me and my emotions, so I called her out on it. I'm not going to be ultra nice all of a sudden just because she has suffered before, when she is the one making bogus claims about me, but I'm also not belittling her suffering by saying that her situation does not apply to everyone equally.

If a man said that, even though he's never broken a bone before, he wouldn't cry when he eventually did, and someone came up and said "NO. YOU WILL CRY. NO MATTER WHAT. JUST STOP. YOU DON'T AND CAN'T COMPREHEND HOW MUCH IT HURTS," it would be correct to call them out on over-generalizing.

How is telling a woman that she's wrong about me, after she first made insane claims about me, acting like a twat, exactly? I've been pretty civil through this whole thing, making it clear that she MIGHT be wrong about me. She might be right. But to say with absolute certainty is asinine and belittles those that went through it and didn't suffer as she did.

Hopefully he'll stop making generalizations like that in the future.

>Says generalizations are bad
>>Assumes I'm a man

Irony. Irony everywhere.

You're so full of shit. I clearly said "he/she" earlier in the post and then defaulted to masculine because that is an accepted method of discussing someone of indeterminate gender.

 

[phreakdb]

Hopefully that guard is fired/reprimanded. "What do you expect me to do" is not an appropriate response when it's your job to ensure the safety of the people there. If somebody has just told you that they were sexually harassed/assaulted, you should get off your ass and work with them to find the person.

May want to read the rest of the thread. Just made yourself look like the south end of a horse.

 

[phreakdb]

indeterminate gender.

*Clicks profile*

Determined.

How was that indeterminate?

Everyone knows that there are no such things as girls on the internet. Just Saying.

 

[chadachada123]

indeterminate gender.

*Clicks profile*

Determined.

How was that indeterminate?

Now you're making a big deal out of nothing. Many profiles don't have a listed gender, and even then some people list themselves as male or female but are themselves transgender.

From your writing, it was indeterminate, and it was also not nearly important enough to the conversation at hand to warrant interrupting you to ask or to seek the info elsewhere.

Are you seriously bitching about me picking the wrong gender to refer to you as? Welcome to the internet, hun.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

You're supposed to dress up as a creeper for Minecraft parties, not be one!

 

[Denamic]

indeterminate gender.

*Clicks profile*

Determined.

How was that indeterminate?

Text on the internet doesn't have a gender.

 

[BaronUberstein]

Hopefully that guard is fired/reprimanded. "What do you expect me to do" is not an appropriate response when it's your job to ensure the safety of the people there. If somebody has just told you that they were sexually harassed/assaulted, you should get off your ass and work with them to find the person.

May want to read the rest of the thread. Just made yourself look like the south end of a horse.

You could just point me to the information that makes me see like an ass...I'd rather appreciate it, heh.

 

[Denamic]

indeterminate gender.

*Clicks profile*

Determined.

How was that indeterminate?

Text on the internet doesn't have a gender.

Yes, because they were talking to and about the text, not the person typing it, right?

I'm saying that the gender of the person doesn't matter.
Especially not in regards to petty shit like this.

 

[Lyri]

1I didn't know her gender and presumed she was male. Not that it makes much of a difference. I...of course I know that she admitted to it. She admitted it directly to me.


2It's an insult to victims to say that they ABSOLUTELY WILL need some kind of help, and that the pain is ABSOLUTELY NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND to those that haven't experienced it, no matter what or who. THAT's the insulting part, the absolutism.


3What stance is there to re-evaluate? She made overarching claims about knowing me and my emotions, so I called her out on it. I'm not going to be ultra nice all of a sudden just because she has suffered before, when she is the one making bogus claims about me, but I'm also not belittling her suffering by saying that her situation does not apply to everyone equally.

4If a man said that, even though he's never broken a bone before, he wouldn't cry when he eventually did, and someone came up and said "NO. YOU WILL CRY. NO MATTER WHAT. JUST STOP. YOU DON'T AND CAN'T COMPREHEND HOW MUCH IT HURTS," it would be correct to call them out on over-generalizing.


5How is telling a woman that she's wrong about me, after she first made insane claims about me, acting like a twat, exactly? I've been pretty civil through this whole thing, making it clear that she MIGHT be wrong about me. She might be right. But to say with absolute certainty is asinine and belittles those that went through it and didn't suffer as she did.

1: Check the profile, it's that easy and you don't have to default.

2: So from what you're saying is that it's insulting to you because they assume you'd suffer like they did?
You're not very empathetic are you? Someone who has gone through those very experiences probably couldn't see how you wouldn't react like they did.
There is some serious arrogance in your statement, you could only guess how you would react and not say for definite.

3: Do you even realise how far you're running with such a minor point right now? Someone assumed you would need help if you were to suffer such an attack and you're actually reacting like they're infringing upon you somehow? lol
As I said, delicate flower.

4That analogy is completely off and it isn't over generalizing it's just an assumption. Either way, none of those two are insulting.

5: Because you're calling "You would probably suffer just as much as anybody else" insane. That's why.
Again, it belittles nobody so stop playing that card.

 

[tmande2nd]

If a dude pulls his penis out of his pants...punch it.

Seriously he was just asking for it right there.

 

[Denamic]

Gender didn't matter. What did matter, was them making an assumption while arguing against generalizations.

An assumption is not a generalization.
They're not even similar.
What's you logic?

 

[90sgamer]

"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"

Holy shit, my sides.

Seriously? Your response to sexual assault is "that's hilarious"?

I think I'm going to instead believe that you just got back from boxing, and quoted that by accident.

Seriously? Is this one of those topics where nothing is funny ever? I resent your inflated sense of morality and I resent your attempt to force everyone else to be just as much a tightwad as you.

Azuaron finds it hilarious that some dickwad thought it would be a good idea to force a girl to grab his small cock through his pants. Strictly speaking, it's very sad that such dumbasses actually populate this earth. In fact, Earth is a very sad place to live for that reason. Some people address this sadness by finding things to laugh at. Then there are people like you, who choose to deal with it by being... what? Tighwads. Please understand that laughing at stupidity is a completely appropriate response.

Decent article, otherwise. I wonder what sway notch will have in metering out discipline on that lazy security guard.

First of all, I'm Azuaron, he's Rocklobster99.

Secondly, you have no idea about my sense of morality or my sense of humor, and are making gross generalizations about my entire personality.

So let me spell it out for you: The dickwolves comic? Hilarious. But the punchline wasn't, "Guy gets raped," the punchline was, "Look at how ridiculous and callous players are in MMOs." Here the "punchline" is... he made her touch his dick? She's traumatized and he needs to be jailed for the next five to ten years and permanently put on the sex offenders registry?

Thanks for the correction.

You can't pull the 'you don't know ANYTHING about me' card. A person is what they say and what they do. First, A guy makes a vague post that he found something funny about the following quote, "Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?" What do you say and do? You make a reply post rebuking him for finding anything funny in this situation even though you can't possibly know exactly what it was he found comical (the pickup line, the image of the scene playing out, the fact some dude was stupid enough to think this was a good course of action, etc.). This says plenty about various facets of you unless you want to make the argument that your arguments and statements are incongruous with your "true" self, i.e. you are a troll or a participant of internet mob mentality.

The punchline "he made her touch his dick" could be a benign punchline to a benign joke. It can also be an offensive punchline to an offensive joke. Since the LR99 didn't specify it would appear you simply guessed what he might have found humorous. I did offer one different interpretation which you have not addressed.

I have a question for you. I assert that you are a tightwad that is of the opinion that nothing is funny about this situation at all. You have made the assertion that I don't know anything about you. The implication is that my assertion is wrong. Question: is there anything that can be funny about this situation? If yes, I would like you to specify what could be funny.

I look forward you your objective, non-evasive, truthful answer.

 

[Timnoldzim]

Wow. Good on Notch for at least caring, and I hope that there'll be some way to bring the guy to justice.

As for the arguments going on in this thread, I'd have to say that there IS something funny about this- the funny part is the loser freak that decided to assault a woman in a public place. The way he acted was absurdly wrong and he deserves to be laughed at. I don't see why we can't mock someone who doesn't deserve any sympathy.