Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

[3quency]

So many new and exciting ways to downplay sexual assault, blame the victim, and show solidarity for a creeper.

Way to go, guys. Fantastic job you're doing, showing how gamer culture totally doesn't have problems with sexism.

Eh? I haven't read all the comments here, but I thought we'd all just sort of agreed that the one person that was definitely an asshole in this situation was Mr. Creeper.

I could well be wrong I guess.

It's quotes like these:

Not gonna, lie if some chick was talking about how insecure she is about her vag, and then put my hand down her pants, and showed me it, I'd love it.

Because sexual assault is the sincerest form of flattery, right?

I see no functional difference between forcing someone to touch your junk and forcing someone to give you a hug

Because obviously this was just some misplaced affection.

She should view it as drunken error on both sides, and get on with her life

Because obviously she was just as much at fault for having a hand that was available for molesting.

Minimize the impact of the perpetrator, maximize the fault of the victim, that way, she looks like she was in the wrong and he is just socially awkward. Why should we villainize a sexual assailant when there's a victimized woman handy?

So yeah, that's what I mean when I say they show solidarity for the creeper.

Ah. Fuck those guys.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I do feel sorry for her, but she really could've done more. So should the guard, but you can understand his dismissive behaviour seeing as she was drunk.

Um, where does it say he was dismissive because she was drunk?

He wasn't dismissive at all & having done that kind of job myself there was literally nothing he could have done. Especially after the fact, after the guy has left, 15 minutes after it happened.

He's a security guard, not magic.

"Some asshole did something totally unacceptable at my party, and a security guard shrugged it off,"

Check, your move.

 

[Lyri]

She tried to get help. The security guard didn't do anything. She then got help from her friends to help her through it. Sexual assault isn't something you just walk off, it's a pretty traumatizing experience. The security guard didn't do anything because... I don't know actually. He's a security guard, he should have found the guy and evicted him immediately.

And she didn't make a scene probably because the reaction would be like yours. People would assume she made it up for attention or something.

Assumption.

Most logically had she actually made a scene people would have seen an Asian guy with his dick hanging out of his pants.
He already sounds quite weepy and emotional so unless he started bawling like a baby after she jacked him off, I very much doubt people would have assumed she made it up.
Let us not be too fucking cynical of the entire ordeal

She didn't make a fuss and people are looking into it, had she made a fuss the results would be the same.
Ugh.

The guard reacted like he did because we live in a society where this kind of shit is expected. We teach women not to get raped and shrug off men who can't have a little self-control with "Boys will be boys."

It's sick. And at least in America, it's encouraged. Look at our politicians...

Teaching women not to get raped is a bad thing?
That's how it's coming across here and yes before you say "We should be teaching people not to rape", we already do.
Teaching people to be personally responsible for their safety is a very, very good thing.

]Like I said, have your opinion all you want. Don't quote me to make the jokes, however. I don't appreciate being used to make light when discussing sexual abuse. You want--go nuts. I'll refrain.

Not to tell you what to do or anything, advice is how I'd put it. You're kind of like a wounded animal at the moment just snapping at posters, I can clearly see it's a pretty touchy subject for you.
Maybe you should back off the thread, Boudi.

I think you don't understand one simple concept: I'm not you.

For sexual assault, I would not give a shit in the vast majority of situations, and I know that for a fact.

For rape, I said that I HONESTLY DON'T SEE MYSELF being traumatized in most non-painful situations. Maybe I'd be wrong. There's only one way to know for sure. What I do know is that some victims of rape walk away emotionally pretty much fine, while others like you think that it is unable to comprehend, with everything in between.

Maybe YOU personally suffer extreme emotional pain, but to say I would suffer the same is insulting, and to say that the pain is incomprehensible is unfounded (and insulting to other victims that weren't harmed emotionally to your extent). I've been through a lot of nasty shit, and I see little that could compare emotionally for myself. As in, for me. Not you. Not him. Not them. Me.

That's great but you could show a little compassion here and stop with the "unfeeling and insensitive" thing you have going on.

Maybe YOU personally suffer extreme emotional pain, but to say I would suffer the same is insulting
You must be a delicate flower.

 

[anthony87]

So....does Notch ever do anything besides tweet? I mean how much rage can you express over sexual assault in just 140 characters?

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

Like I said, have your opinion all you want. Don't quote me to make the jokes, however. I don't appreciate being used to make light when discussing sexual abuse. You want--go nuts. I'll refrain.

Pot... Kettle... Black...

You consistantly make sarcastic remarks on threads... sometimes quoting people to do it...

Just Saiyan!

She should view it as drunken error on both sides, and get on with her life

Because obviously she was just as much at fault for having a hand that was available for molesting.

Minimize the impact of the perpetrator, maximize the fault of the victim, that way, she looks like she was in the wrong and he is just socially awkward. Why should we villainize a sexual assailant when there's a victimized woman handy?

So yeah, that's what I mean when I say they show solidarity for the creeper.

Yay... Thank you SO much for quoting me out of context, and then responding to the bit you wanted to make your point on... Which due to the removal of the rest of my post, was incorrect...

I mentioned that we don't know the whole story... we only know her drunken haze version... She could have lead him on for all we know...

And I also mentioned that what he did WAS wrong, and shouldn't have happened... but that she should also be glad she wasn't actually attacked...

I sympathised with her, but also appreciated that this isn't the worse news I have read today, and it could have been so much worse!

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I don't think you know what that phrase means, but alright, go ahead and show me one (just one) example of me quoting someone to make a joke surrounding the topic of sexual assault.

If you can't do it, you misused the phrase. That's right, because I said "I don't appreciate being used to make light when discussing sexual abuse."

Again, go nuts and joke in the thread until the cows come home. Have fun. Leave me out of it.

I do know what the phrase means... as you just did it again... I ignored the fact that you mentioned the sexual abuse, because you are ignoring the fact that I wasn't joking about sexual abuse to begin with...

Well done genius!

 

[CardinalPiggles]

I do feel sorry for her, but she really could've done more. So should the guard, but you can understand his dismissive behaviour seeing as she was drunk.

Um, where does it say he was dismissive because she was drunk?

He wasn't dismissive at all & having done that kind of job myself there was literally nothing he could have done. Especially after the fact, after the guy has left, 15 minutes after it happened.

He's a security guard, not magic.

"Some asshole did something totally unacceptable at my party, and a security guard shrugged it off,"

Check, your move.

I'm seeing no mention of him being dismissive or his dismissiveness having anything to do with her level of intoxication. So at best its a fools check

Of course he did nothing, there was nothing for him to do. He more then likely informed her of her options & she got pissed because he didn't possess magical time reversing powers. Used to happen when we were on the job all the time: someone would lock there keys in there car & they'd be all pissed at us because they locked there keys in there car.

Anger is not rational & its less rational for women at this point in our history, where women are still primarily functioning under the popular paradigm that there continued protection is the job of every man, everywhere.

Queen to B6?

Anyway, do you know what he means when he says "shrugged it off"? It means the security guard didn't take her seriously, and seeing as we're told she was drunk, well I put two and two together. Who wants to deal with -not one- but a group of distraught young ladies who have been drinking, I sure don't, and I don't think he would've wanted to either.

Of course I'm doing a bit of guesswork here, but seeing as we're not told a great deal of information (because it's still early into the investigation), you have to guess a bit.

I'm not saying he (or any other security guards) didn't give a shit, or he chose not to help, but according to Notch he was dismissive.

 

[Bassik]

Sexual assault is never funny, but the guy seemed like such a pathetic loser, how can we not laugh about it? Mock him, make him seem ridiculous, like the sad little man he is. There's nothing wrong with mocking someone like that.

 

[phreakdb]

Not to tell you what to do or anything, advice is how I'd put it. You're kind of like a wounded animal at the moment just snapping at posters, I can clearly see it's a pretty touchy subject for you.
Maybe you should back off the thread, Boudi.

Quoted for Truth. You're coming off like a troll at this point Boudi, and not helping 'The Cause'.

 

[iRevanchist]

.................... *goes on for eternity like that*...

Why wouldn't you go get help? Why would that effect you so badly? Why didn't the security guard do SOMETHING (even if it was to offer solace)? Why wasn't there a better investigation where you could get a sketch of the dude or security photage? just WHY?!

To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?

I'm sure that there's a bunch of people who could jump all over me for what I just said. But honestly? It's really a whole lot less about what I just said, and a whole lot more of "WHY?!" This whole thing's just bizarre.

blaming the victim for not telling authority and discrediting her experience. niiiiiiice, very classy. yeah, i'm sure she "let" herself be in that situation.

jackass.

 

[anthony87]

I was out with couple of mates a while back. At some point in the night this really really REALLY drunk gay dude who everyone in the place had seen making an arse of himself comes over us and starts talking nonsense and getting really....touchy feely with all of us. Me in particular.

Long story short. The dude put his arm around my shoulder and shoved his tongue in my ear. Fun times(?). So I push the guy away, told him to fuck off and then my friends and I all had a laugh about it later on.

Now I'm probably pretty damn wrong here but I can't help but draw comparisons between that and the dude putting the girls hand on his dick. Sure it was certainly......unpleasant. But sexual assault?

Thoughts? Opinions? Statements telling me I'm wrong/right/fucked up? Boudica jumping down my throat?