Now they're banning Medal Of Honor game in all Canadian Military stores. When will this end?
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Consider the following.
You are the official in charge of making this decision. You have never played video games, and nobody that is an important figure in your life does, either. You don't really know anything about multiplayer games; all you know is that there is a game coming out in which it is possible to play the role of a Taliban fighter killing Coalition soldiers.
With all the information we have, it's clear that it's not the right decision. That doesn't mean that it's not the decision that seems best to that person.
You are the official in charge of making this decision. You have never played video games, and nobody that is an important figure in your life does, either. You don't really know anything about multiplayer games; all you know is that there is a game coming out in which it is possible to play the role of a Taliban fighter killing Coalition soldiers.
With all the information we have, it's clear that it's not the right decision. That doesn't mean that it's not the decision that seems best to that person.
^ I want one ^MrDeckard said:
OT: Oh well. They don't know how many service men and women actually play games. My whole clan is based on them, actually. MoH is going to be great. All they're doing is making it harder for them to get the game. Also, isn't the OpFor in MW2 Taliban since the missions are based in Afgahnistan? Did I miss something. Oh well. Can't wait. 12.10.10.
Isn't that where the mounties get their horses from...?Blue-State said:
I jest, I jest...
I can understand military stores not selling this game out of respect I guess... some service people may have trouble coping with the loss of comrades, family or friends.
However I feel blankett bans over entire countries is over the top. Its not like its glorifying Taliban killing Coelition forces, its nothing on par with the MW2 russian terrorists killing civilians. Its just another name for a faction in multiplayer.
CSS has terrorists, BF2 had MEC (middle eastern coelition) and many other modern combat games featuring made up middle eastern soldiers or groups are just a name holder for you generic terrorist group that can easily be exchanged with Al Quieda or Taliban...
I'm sure Middle Eastern people playing these games think its horrifying to be able to play as Americans slaughtering there troops, and in the case of games like BC2, blowing up their villages/towns/islands.
Ummm.. probably because, as you say yourself, it's a modern era game (about a conflict that's still ongoing and where, if you're a soldier, the enemy combatants you can play as are maiming and killing your own brothers and sisters in arms right now)?sabbat said:
Seriously, it's not that hard to see why the military would object to someone selling this game on a military base. I know if I was in Afghanistan right now one of the last things I'd want to see in a store is a game where the player can play as, essentially, the guy who just blew my friends leg off yesterday or the guy who's IED killed 2 of my fellow soldiers last week. The Canadian Military, just as the other militaries that have banned on base sale of the game, are not banning anyone from playing the game or buying it off base. They are just making it so that military personnel and their families don't have to see something that they might find at best mildly offensive and at worst heartbreaking when they walk into a game selling store on military property.
Wait, what was that? Yeah, the Canadian Military is not telling anyone that they can't buy or play the game, they just don't want it sold on base. No one is being stopped, for better or for worse, from playing the game on base or off, they just can't buy it on base.
Because they might be on a base in the middle of nowhere... or on a Canadian administered base in a combat operations zone... both of which would be the bases that had the larger on-base stores (seeing as there'd be fuck all alternative).Garak73 said:
RhombusHatesYou said:
Ah, now that I've stopped laughing...hee hee hee...hang on. HA HA HA HAAAAA!!!
Okay, okay, have to be serious. Ahem. *snerk*
The fact that the Canadian military has such a *snort* such a devotion to equality and fairness *hee hee* that it's willing to
to to *heh* to treat its foes with such even-handedness *ha ha haaaaa* oh to hell with it!Canada, you're the nation of my birth and I love you to pieces, but really guys, can't you do something other than mimic the silliness of your southern neighbour?
Well, if controversy sells MOH is gonna make a crap ton. Haha just kidding, I doubt they can stack up against Halo Reach and Blacks Ops, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I've seen loads of soldiers who just love to have themselves some fun with Modern Warfare 2. They very much recognize it isn't real, because it's extra easy to spot the difference between reality and a game when you've experienced the reality for yourself. So... I doubt any of them will be terribly upset at a game actually naming a faction Taliban, it's just putting a stop to all the beating around the bushes.WolfLordAndy said:
It's like with censoring parts of swear words. What's the point? If you write f*ck everyone knows you meant fuck. Think George Carlin was saying it in one of the interviews actually, the message has already gotten across, which is what the language is about, so seeing the actual word is irrelevant. Same with the name, every time you get a Genericmiddleeasternstan you know what you're fighting.
This is the info I've garnered from the stuff on Escapist as well. But a question. I happened to be messing around Steam store today and checked out some MoH limited edition preview vids and such. And if you look at the last of the 6 videos, there are parts (bit after half-way through) that very much look like Taliban single player campaign. Are we sure this is multiplayer only? Asking out of interest, not because it would change my opinion on the matter btw.WolfLordAndy said:
edit: Nvm, looked at it again now, the Taliban-looking peeps seem to just be Americans with beards.
Whether you think it's right or wrong stores have the right to choose what products they sell in there stores.
If the military stores find the content of these games objectionable then they have the right to say no and not stock it. It's there choice.
It's not like were banning its sale country wide, or forbidding soldiers to purchase it at all. They are just not being sold on Military bases.
This isn't censorship, this is people making the choice not to stock something they find objectionable in there stores on military bases. I mean, is it that hard to believe military bases would be unwilling to stock a game that allows people to play as Taliban shooting there friends in arms? Yes, it may only be online play but i understand why they think it's wrong.
Forcing them to stock a product they don't approve of would be wrong. Sorry, i side with the military on this one. Before you scream at me bare in mind i object to any game that is a direct re-enactment of world events. That means all past and present MoH and CoD that are based off of real wars i find wrong. No, I'm not calling for there banning. I just don't approve of them.
As well we have military surplus stores, as there are two in the town i live in. I live in BC.
If the military stores find the content of these games objectionable then they have the right to say no and not stock it. It's there choice.
It's not like were banning its sale country wide, or forbidding soldiers to purchase it at all. They are just not being sold on Military bases.
This isn't censorship, this is people making the choice not to stock something they find objectionable in there stores on military bases. I mean, is it that hard to believe military bases would be unwilling to stock a game that allows people to play as Taliban shooting there friends in arms? Yes, it may only be online play but i understand why they think it's wrong.
Forcing them to stock a product they don't approve of would be wrong. Sorry, i side with the military on this one. Before you scream at me bare in mind i object to any game that is a direct re-enactment of world events. That means all past and present MoH and CoD that are based off of real wars i find wrong. No, I'm not calling for there banning. I just don't approve of them.
We have both Military stores in that we have stores on military bases.chinangel said:
As well we have military surplus stores, as there are two in the town i live in. I live in BC.
Which means they could order online or have someone home-side order it and send it to them in the mail if they really want it. It worked for me when I wanted books the Falkland's base didn't possess.RhombusHatesYou said:
It's just catch all for CFPFSS.chinangel said:
In which case, aside from slight inconvenience, it allows the military to look all concerned and shit while not actually doing anything that affects anyone.Garak73 said:
Personally, I think this is aimed at bases in combat operation zones.
FEAR ALL THAT IS NOT LADY GAGA!Harn said:
Anyways, any input I have on this is redundant at this point.