Obama ends military ban

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triggrhappy94

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Falconsgyre said:
Edit: Damn. A couple minutes late with the video. Took me too long to check how to bypass age verification on youtube.
Haha that's pretty funny. The age thing fucked me up too.
 

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I've said this hundreds of times, and I'll say it again. I'm a gay man who doesn't like Obama.

Obama did NOT "end DADT".

CONGRESS passed a BILL that effectively ended DADT, and then Obama just decided not to veto it.

The President cannot just magically pass bills or decide things on his own. The President can pass a bill to congress, yes, but that doesn't mean that they have to pass it.
 

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Wow, took long enough. He wasted three years on something he could have ended on day one. He's the commander and chef of the US armed forces. He could have just told them to ignore the policy.

What an incredible disappointment this man has been.
 

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Well, color me apathetic. Now that Obama's fixed the gays-in-the-military problem, maybe he can get around to fixing the country he's leading. A guy can dream can't he?
 

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Now do something about the damn debt ceiling so we don't drive the world back into depression when our loans default.
 

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Arkvoodle said:
Now do something about the damn debt ceiling so we don't drive the world back into depression when our loans default.
Oh come on, you know it'd be fun. Plus we'd get to be able to point at everyone who doesn't like us and go, "Maybe if you don't want a global financial meltdown you should be nicer to us. Maybe send a birthday present, or at least a card."

Good times.
 

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so now when there are no girls while out w/e they can freely fuck each other. better than nothing id say.

and yes i know there are females in the army etc. but still alot of males typically.
 

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Nouw said:
It's about damn time. That's all I have to say about that.
triggrhappy94 said:


We gotta protect our gays
That is fucking hilarious.
Best part?

"Seven"


But honestly the choice of picture for that article seems... odd. Did Yahoo news' editor say "We have to find a picture that is as gay as possible while still having something to do with the military!" "We could just have a picture of some soldiers or DADT protesters" "SHUT UP JOHNSON! Haven't you ever met one of the gays? They are all fruity and weird! What we need is a picture of two Asian men acting as camp gay as possible while wearing shirts on them that are affiliated with the Navy! The Navy is historically belittled for having lots of sodomy right? Right!"

Seriously that picture just seems odd to me. Like the editors were trying to scream "THESE TWO GUYS ARE GAY!" at me.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
I'm in the military, and though it probably won't change much of anything about where I work, I am concerned about having gay men on the front lines, ESPECIALLY in the special forces. Unit cohesion is a matter of life and death, and while I don't know if it would cause any problems, I'm just a bit concerned that similar issues that prevent women from serving in those areas would come up with gay men there. Not the same, but something similar. Nobody should die because they're forced to work alongside someone who distracts them. Again, not saying that is absolutely going to happen, but it's just something I think should be addressed.
yeah, but you could say the same about women or other ethnic races. how about having a fellow from middle eastern decent in your ranks during the whole war out there? people are going to have stupid hang ups about others BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT! and that's why humanity sucks. why would a gay person cause you to die in battle? you think he's going to grab your butt when you're shooting the bad guys? no, it's not like that. remember a ways back when African-Americans (well... just americans, but that's another debate) weren't allowed to serve for whatever stupid reason... well... they did some damn fine work! imagine that... we're not all so different after all.

tl;dr - being gay wont make you die in a war. being stupid about people being gay will.

(lol, capcha=ivory tower... STOP JUDGING ME CAPCHA!!!)
 

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Canid117 said:
But honestly the choice of picture for that article seems... odd. Did Yahoo news' editor say "We have to find a picture that is as gay as possible while still having something to do with the military!" "We could just have a picture of some soldiers or DADT protesters" "SHUT UP JOHNSON! Haven't you ever met one of the gays? They are all fruity and weird! What we need is a picture of two Asian men acting as camp gay as possible while wearing shirts on them that are affiliated with the Navy! The Navy is historically belittled for having lots of sodomy right? Right!"

Seriously that picture just seems odd to me. Like the editors were trying to scream "THESE TWO GUYS ARE GAY!" at me.
They should've used this instead.

It's a good source of your daily potassium and sodomy.

And the one on the left looks like he could be Latino.
 

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Falconsgyre said:
Don't be silly. There are no gays in the military.

Also, this:


Edit: Damn. A couple minutes late with the video. Took me too long to check how to bypass age verification on youtube.
by far the funniest thing I've seen in a while!!!!
 

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Jack the Potato said:
I'm in the military, and though it probably won't change much of anything about where I work, I am concerned about having gay men on the front lines, ESPECIALLY in the special forces. Unit cohesion is a matter of life and death, and while I don't know if it would cause any problems, I'm just a bit concerned that similar issues that prevent women from serving in those areas would come up with gay men there. Not the same, but something similar. Nobody should die because they're forced to work alongside someone who distracts them. Again, not saying that is absolutely going to happen, but it's just something I think should be addressed.
If they're distracted, that's their issue, not the issue of the person distracting them. If our special forces are so easily distracted, then I'd say our military has bigger issues than gays.
 

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Coffinshaker said:
See, I tried to word my post carefully so people wouldn't misconstrue it like you did. I know a gay soldier won't be playing grab-ass during a firefight, or even that he'll show any obvious signs of being gay at all. Not every (or even many) gays are like the flamboyant stereotypes you see on TV. The issue I'm concerned with is far more subtle. Women aren't allowed to serve on the front lines not only for biological reasons, but also for the vastly different ways men behave around them. The same could be said for gays, though to a lesser degree I think. And I don't even know why you are bringing up historically racist policies. The two issues are pretty different.

Guys like you preach on and on about an end to bigotry based on ignorance, which is all well and good, but you take it so far that you become ignorant yourselves. Men ARE different from women. Straights ARE different from gays. Nobody is better than anybody, but to ignore the differences between people is just as stupid as bigotry based on those differences.
 

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Mr Thin said:
For some reason my mind immediately goes to the showers. Are homosexuals going to get different showers? Or does everyone in the military have their own personal shower? I don't know, I've never served (obviously).

I mean, good for the gays and all, it is a grand day for fair-handedness and all that; but at the same time, I can understand straight men being uncomfortable showering with gay men, for example.
I think Barney Frank summed it up beautifully,


Basically, straight solders have been showering with homosexuals the whole time, they just haven't been aware of it. The only thing that has changed is that now homosexuals can now be true to themselves and not have to hide behind a facade.
I saw that video a while back. Barney Frank totally pwned that baiting loser.

As for the the showering question...they're soldiers. They can fuckin' deal.
 

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LokiArchetype said:
If they're distracted, that's their issue, not the issue of the person distracting them. If our special forces are so easily distracted, then I'd say our military has bigger issues than gays.
Just so you know, you've not only made me double post, but I slapped my forehead pretty hard after I read your comment. I'm not up for going through the myriad of ways your thinking is just wrong, but I will say that who's affected and who's affecting makes absolutely no difference in this issue. If performance suffers for whatever reason, people could die. Minimizing the risk is at the forefront of any military mission.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
I'm in the military, and though it probably won't change much of anything about where I work, I am concerned about having gay men on the front lines, ESPECIALLY in the special forces. Unit cohesion is a matter of life and death, and while I don't know if it would cause any problems, I'm just a bit concerned that similar issues that prevent women from serving in those areas would come up with gay men there. Not the same, but something similar. Nobody should die because they're forced to work alongside someone who distracts them. Again, not saying that is absolutely going to happen, but it's just something I think should be addressed.
They said the same thing about black soldiers before they integrated the military...seemed to work out well to me.
 

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Well, as a former gay soldier who served while under the DADT rule, It comes too late for me, and it's not like I have any aspirations to return, but I imagine it will make a lot of soldiers live a lot less stressful lives now.
 

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It's pointless... The military isn't about sex. So why does it matter if you are or aren't gay? And if THAT doesn't matter, then it needing to be said shouldn't.