Obama may re-instate the ban on assault weapons.

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hannahdonno

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Wizzie said:
hannahdonno said:
you cannot compare the violence of a rock to a gun.
Have you seen a stoning?
Being shot is considerably nicer, rocks are pretty violent.

Flippancy of the argument aside for one second.
Well considering America, how many people get stoned to death compared to getting shot to death? By placing this ban, unnesacary deaths will be avoided.
 

D_987

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As has been stated - why do you need an assault rifle anyway...its not needed for hunting, for protection - theres no reason for any civillian to own one and as such I hope this ban goes through - even if I don't live in the USA.
 

Gruthar

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What, I can't use my AK for collecting, recreational target shooting, or IPSC competitions? It can only be used to kill people? Balls. I guess I'll have to get rid of all things I have no 'need' of.
 

Lord George

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Why the hell would you even need an assault rifle? I can't think of any situation an average citizen would need a weapon like that except for a killing spree?. I'd imagine the type of person who buys one is probably trying to overcompensate in some ways.
 

DragunovHUN

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EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU forgot one VERY important fact in this discussion.

Assault weapons DO NOT equal assault rifles.
By US law, an assault weapon is a semi-automatic rifle which has a detachable magazine and two additional evil features such as collapsible or folding stocks, pistol grips and muzzle breaks.

Basicly, it's your average sporting rifle, with the same capabilities as a semi-auto hunting rifle.

When this ban passes (and it will pass because of YOUR IGNORANCE), the only thing that will change is the way assault weapons look. Just like what happened during the 1994 AWB. Thumbhole stocks and 10 round mags in AKs. Does that make then any less dangerous? NO.
 

Sanaj

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The infamous SCAMola said:
Why do civilians need assault rifles anyway, to protect themselves from 200 burglars at the same time?

Really if you want like a handgun or something to protect your family that's fine by me, but an assault rifle seems like a tad too much.
Quite a bit more than a tad I'd say.
However, if Obama re-instates the ban on assault weapons he will alienate the ("more") right and the gun "enthusiasts".

I've always had trouble understanding the gun control dilemma in the States.
People must realize that having more guns (especially when afraid of each other) / allowing military assault weapons
creates many more problems.
(i.e. more guns -> increased number of people killed with guns)

They have significantly more problems (kills/deaths) due to gun usage that any other 1st world country.
(I know using 1st world etc. is outdated...it's just easier.)
 

Skeleon

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A ban sounds like a good plan to me, but then again I'm a wussy European who doesn't believe in "guns for everybody" anyway.
Don't stop after the assault weapons, though!
 

Samurai Goomba

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Gormourn said:
Gruthar said:
What, I can't use my AK for collecting, recreational target shooting, or IPSC competitions? It can only be used to kill people? Balls. I guess I'll have to get rid of all things I have no 'need' of.
What, I can't use my (unfortunately non-existing) mustard gas bombs simply for collecting or recreational purposes? They can only be used to horribly incapacitate and kill people? Balls. I guess I'll have to get rid of all things I have no 'need' of.

Yeah. You are a civilian. There are things you shouldn't have. A fully operational tank, for example. A nuclear bomb. And a good number of other more down-to-earth examples.

Deal with it.
That semi-auto AK of his is actually quite a bit less dangerous than most semi-auto pistols, which can be easily concealed and transported into public places quite simply.

And the ban doesn't affect his ability to have semi-auto rifles, just his ability to purchase particular models of said rifles. Once again:

The Assault Rifles in question are semi-automatic. Look it up if you don't know what that means. There's very little difference between a civilian AK-47 and any civilian hunting or target rifle that is also semi-automatic.
 

Gruthar

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Gormourn said:
What, I can't use my (unfortunately non-existing) mustard gas bombs simply for collecting or recreational purposes? They can only be used to horribly incapacitate and kill people? Balls. I guess I'll have to get rid of all things I have no 'need' of.

Yeah. You are a civilian. There are things you shouldn't have. A fully operational tank, for example. A nuclear bomb. And a good number of other more down-to-earth examples.

Deal with it.
Your analogy is flawed. For one, there is absolutely no recreational basis for mustard gas, or nuclear weapons, plus they are regulated by international conventions. Firearms are not governed by any such laws. Despite what you believe to be the ideal, firearms are used recreationally.

There's nothing for me to deal with. I'm content with the status quo. It is you who is unable to accept civil liberties, to grasp the concept that banning so-called 'assault' weapons is completely assinine: they are not any more or less dangerous than any other firearm in the right hands. Yeah, there's no need for me to own an assault rifle. There's no need for me to own a car that can outrun a police cruiser. Perhaps we should ban those too, so that criminals don't have them? Perhaps you believe I shouldn't be able to own a fully operational tank, but under current US law, I can. Until a change is proposed, deal with it. :p
 

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I'd be for it, assault rifles seem like an unnecessary addition to the already generously stocked arms stores that America has. Assault rifles are professional weapons that should really be carried around by professional organisations, such as the military or SWAT or something similar. They are very powerful and wouldn't be useful for 'home defence' at all really, more an expensive and powerful toy.
 

VladBlok28

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I can understand someone buying assault rifles as a collector, but for defence and hunting? They are called ASSAULT rifles, not hunting/defence rifles