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I'm in England, but I was happy when he won :3
I'm glad to be part of history--the first black president.
I'm glad to be part of history--the first black president.
Well, congratulations to the President-elect and his supporters. May they be as gracious in victory as the conceding candidate was in his defeat last night.
I do hope now that Americans will stop measuring the value of a man by the size of his wallet in the next few years, but I suppose that's a vain hope... but in any case you have a President-elect who doesn't think of your Constitution as an obstacle to be torn down or outflanked, and one who will govern as a leader and not a prophet. He may be inexperienced, and may require an investment of time and patience while he finds his footing on the world stage, but I certainly hope you see a bountious return on that investment in years to come.
And the rest of the world can take a breath now that America will no longer be under the rule of those who wish their Republic was instead an Empire, and of those who see other nations as resources to be strip-mined instead of markets worthy of fair trade.
There's more to freedom than low taxes and cheap firearms. I think you'll be surprised at how much more in the next few years.
-- Steve
I do hope now that Americans will stop measuring the value of a man by the size of his wallet in the next few years, but I suppose that's a vain hope... but in any case you have a President-elect who doesn't think of your Constitution as an obstacle to be torn down or outflanked, and one who will govern as a leader and not a prophet. He may be inexperienced, and may require an investment of time and patience while he finds his footing on the world stage, but I certainly hope you see a bountious return on that investment in years to come.
And the rest of the world can take a breath now that America will no longer be under the rule of those who wish their Republic was instead an Empire, and of those who see other nations as resources to be strip-mined instead of markets worthy of fair trade.
There's more to freedom than low taxes and cheap firearms. I think you'll be surprised at how much more in the next few years.
-- Steve
While I didn't believe either candidate was good for our country, I am ready to stand behind our newly elected President. I'll continue to say that exceptionally growing the size of government will not make us any better off( both candidates would have), but my congratulations to President-elect Obama.
So, question for you...when in four years the country is worse off then it was before this election, will all of you scream about how Democrats are terrible and they fail, and Obama is a moron?
Furthermore...considering how Bush is blamed for everything that's happened in the past eight years, and the republicans have taken such a beating...why is it Obama only won 52% of the popular vote? By all rights, he should have been well over 60, if not in the 70s...I think it speaks volumes of both candidates.
Lastly, this call of "Obama wins." is just a bit premature. What the press HASN'T told you yet is that the folks overseas in the military HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE YET. They could, if they voted as a block, technically swing the election. I very much doubt it will happen, but, you never know.
Also, the ballots have not been officially counted yet...that comes later. The results currently are based on exit polls, which may or may not be right...depends on if people told the truth. You would think they would, but...
Just so you know, I found what the reporters in this election did, on both sides, abhorrent. There was clear bias in favor of one candidate or the other, and the American people were lied to. For an example, google democrats and their involvement in the financial crisis. Furthermore, I despise the way the Democrats used the race card. ANY form of criticism of their candidate, and they found a way to tie it to race. IF you don't believe me, remember that it was Democrats who were yelling, when the McCain campaign began running negative ads, "He is dividing the nation with hatred and spite." (Which, considering the facts, is pretty clearly talking about being racist.) No one mentions the fact of how much of the black vote Obama won...but I guarantee you that if McCain was polling numbers of about 97% of the white vote, there would be screams of racism from the African American community.
Lastly, I'll leave you with this. I love my country. Even with Bush as president. However, this election has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
And take a look at the news from Russia, about deploying missles next to Poland...
Furthermore...considering how Bush is blamed for everything that's happened in the past eight years, and the republicans have taken such a beating...why is it Obama only won 52% of the popular vote? By all rights, he should have been well over 60, if not in the 70s...I think it speaks volumes of both candidates.
Lastly, this call of "Obama wins." is just a bit premature. What the press HASN'T told you yet is that the folks overseas in the military HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE YET. They could, if they voted as a block, technically swing the election. I very much doubt it will happen, but, you never know.
Also, the ballots have not been officially counted yet...that comes later. The results currently are based on exit polls, which may or may not be right...depends on if people told the truth. You would think they would, but...
Just so you know, I found what the reporters in this election did, on both sides, abhorrent. There was clear bias in favor of one candidate or the other, and the American people were lied to. For an example, google democrats and their involvement in the financial crisis. Furthermore, I despise the way the Democrats used the race card. ANY form of criticism of their candidate, and they found a way to tie it to race. IF you don't believe me, remember that it was Democrats who were yelling, when the McCain campaign began running negative ads, "He is dividing the nation with hatred and spite." (Which, considering the facts, is pretty clearly talking about being racist.) No one mentions the fact of how much of the black vote Obama won...but I guarantee you that if McCain was polling numbers of about 97% of the white vote, there would be screams of racism from the African American community.
Lastly, I'll leave you with this. I love my country. Even with Bush as president. However, this election has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
And take a look at the news from Russia, about deploying missles next to Poland...
That'll soon be over, I mean no offence, I support Obama, but I think he will be dead by the end of the 4 years.Joeshie said:
Yup, I am not American so in real terms this new guy doesn't really affect me in any real way but it is kinda hard to miss all the news coverage and specifically how everyone seems to think this is going to be some huge new era for America. Yes he's black, yes he's the first black president but he's got a tough time ahead of him. If the whole thing goes south then the only thing significant will be the colour of his skin and to be honest given that we are all supposed to be enlightened and open minded what difference does it make if he is black or not?
Beyond that well done to him but you can only judge how significant his election is / was based on what he does over the next four years.
All this talk about no experience...Aren't you in the situation you're in now because of a man with 8 year's experience of being President?
No wonder Obama got in, personally I'd have voted for a magic 8 ball at this point, at least one of those has a chance of a right decision occasionally.
I do worry that America is in now in trouble, and Obama and his team of advisors ( and damn guys, can we remember its not just him making every decision while he's in power, he has armies of advisors and researchers behind him, and hey, some of them are white! ), he's going to have a lot of work to pull the US out of the rut it is in, and people will need to remember he's going to have to do some unpopular things to turn the place around.
There again, I'm personally in favour of tax rises to help a nation recover. Wasn't it Bill Hicks who said 'damn man, I'll pay the extra quarter on a gallon of gas if it means we don't have to go napalm a few more villages full of brown people'.
I know I've mentioned black n white, but really, Obama is a figurehead really, not the sole guy in control of the world, and unless the entire Democrat party was entirely black, I don't think you can say he's gonna do 'black' things or stuff like that.
It's not like the Republican party passed laws banning pretzels after all.
No wonder Obama got in, personally I'd have voted for a magic 8 ball at this point, at least one of those has a chance of a right decision occasionally.
I do worry that America is in now in trouble, and Obama and his team of advisors ( and damn guys, can we remember its not just him making every decision while he's in power, he has armies of advisors and researchers behind him, and hey, some of them are white! ), he's going to have a lot of work to pull the US out of the rut it is in, and people will need to remember he's going to have to do some unpopular things to turn the place around.
There again, I'm personally in favour of tax rises to help a nation recover. Wasn't it Bill Hicks who said 'damn man, I'll pay the extra quarter on a gallon of gas if it means we don't have to go napalm a few more villages full of brown people'.
I know I've mentioned black n white, but really, Obama is a figurehead really, not the sole guy in control of the world, and unless the entire Democrat party was entirely black, I don't think you can say he's gonna do 'black' things or stuff like that.
It's not like the Republican party passed laws banning pretzels after all.
hahaha, the magical 8 ball thing is the quote of the day! i hope obama lasts these tough years. he's got the power to change your country for the better, which he no doubt will. it's just a question whether someone will assassinate him before that happens. i hope not, but it's hard to stop 'terrorists'.
i've jeard theres already been a few assasination atempts on obama. even before he was president
Yes yes Obama won congrats, you deserve a snickers if you supported him. For those of us who didnt, well there is always 2012.
Whats pissing me off right now are all these people outside of the United States congratulating America like it was a good dog and throwing us a treat. While its nice to be reminded that unlike other countries elections, ours actually attract the attention of the entire world, it just gets under my skin when people from one country talk about politics in another country like they actually have some clue about what is best for that country.
Whats pissing me off right now are all these people outside of the United States congratulating America like it was a good dog and throwing us a treat. While its nice to be reminded that unlike other countries elections, ours actually attract the attention of the entire world, it just gets under my skin when people from one country talk about politics in another country like they actually have some clue about what is best for that country.
Two historical big events in my life:
The new millennium
The first African American president.
I was terrified of that Palin *****.
The new millennium
The first African American president.
I was terrified of that Palin *****.