Obesity, Does it bother you?

[SimuLord]

I have obese female friends, but there's a very good reason they're "friends". There is a fine line between the curvy, voluptuous girls I go "boing" for and a fat chick who clearly exhibits severe signs of a lack of self-control that I know from experience will spill over into other aspects of her life and our relationship (I dated, lived with, nearly married one a few years back and I got a fascinating case study of fat chicks in their natural habitat.)

I also have obese male friends, who generally fall into the "jolly fat guy" Santa Claus type or the "gentle giant" fat- and tall-guy (like my friend Steve, all 6'6 and 280 of him or my uncle Bobby, all 6'6 and 325 of him) type.

 

[MagicMouse]

*Looks at beer belly*

Because I'm lazy. That simple.

I am with you brother. Who wants to run around the city in spandex looking like a twat. Or lift weights only to put them back down again.
I have this thing against useless labour.

Spandex is dam sexy if you've got the body for it! And its not useless labor if it makes you live longer/happier.

And who says I'm not happy with in current state?

No one, thats why I included the word "IF" in my statement.

Happy? Maybe, Defensive? Yes.

 

[Flos]

I have obese female friends, but there's a very good reason they're "friends". There is a fine line between the curvy, voluptuous girls I go "boing" for and a fat chick who clearly exhibits severe signs of a lack of self-control that I know from experience will spill over into other aspects of her life and our relationship (I dated, lived with, nearly married one a few years back and I got a fascinating case study of fat chicks in their natural habitat.)

I also have obese male friends, who generally fall into the "jolly fat guy" Santa Claus type or the "gentle giant" fat- and tall-guy (like my friend Steve, all 6'6 and 280 of him or my uncle Bobby, all 6'6 and 325 of him) type.

You're seriously only friends with women when you can't imagine having sex with them? You think they have lack of self-control, yet you're friends with them. I must imagine that's quite a friendship. Then your male friends are completely absolved of any wrongdoing because they happen to be male jolly.

"Those fat girls lack self control, but my buddy Steve is Santa Clause."

 

[ParadoxBG]

I promise if I ever break 200 I'll start caring about my weight.

In the meantimewhile, there are plenty of other things that people do to themselves that are as bad -- or worse. Can't honestly hold obesity above smoking, or alcoholism, or --gasp-- MMORPGs (Kidding )

 

[DMonkey]

Not in the least, unless they stand too close, then I feel crowded...
I'm considered under weight right now, but there was a time was pretty heavy myself, and actually got more girls, and was happier... was the teddy bear approach... now being rail thin, and shivering like a pup in the slightest breeze, kinda miss my girth... also, don't be too quick to bad mouth a heavy person to their face... yeah, they got a lot of extra meat on their bones, but its weight they have to carry everywhere, so if they are active big people, well, they can break you...

Also also, someone said its socially acceptable to lecture smokers... good way to get hit... only person who I have ever let give me grief about my smoking is my girlfriend, anyone else is going to get a nicoteen stained fist to their lip... just a friendly warning, many of us are getting sick of people (especially strangers) starting trouble...

 

[atalanta]

"Obesity, Does it bother you?"

No, why should it? Other people are other people and they can take care of themselves; they don't need false pity or concern trolling about their health and safety.

but unfortunately i wasn't able to convince him to turn around.

So what? Maybe he didn't like sports. Maybe he'd rather read or something instead. Or maybe he'd rather do karate instead of running laps and playing tag football. I wasn't terribly athletic in high school because reading and playing music were more important and interesting to me than organised sports; I didn't particularly suffer for it.

 

[mrhappyface]

I just feel bad because I've failed my friend, just like Joker failed Pyle. At least the teacher didn't call him a "disguisting fatbody" although everyone was thinking it.

 

[TheTruePharoah]

lol, "Just turn it around"? Give me a break, if only it were so easy. I was a fat kid all throughout high school (6'1, 265 lbs), and every time I tried to loose weight I failed epically. It wasn't until my freshman year of college (November 2008) that I actually managed to get off my ass and start losing weight. Since then I have dropped to 195 lbs and am still going, but it is a struggle every single day. I cannot enjoy myself at the restaurants my friends want eat at, and I haven't had bacon for over a year, and it has been months since I have had anything fried. Hell, I have forgotten what McDonalds tastes like (which may be a good thing) and I cannot remember the last time I had pizza. But despite all the difficulties, it has all been more than worth it...it is just really, really hard.

*edit*- Oh, and if I did more aerobic exercises, rather than the strength training I have been doing for the past year and a quarter, I would probably weigh quite a bit less, like in the 175 range.

 

[mrhappyface]

"Obesity, Does it bother you?"

No, why should it? Other people are other people and they can take care of themselves; they don't need false pity or concern trolling about their health and safety.

but unfortunately i wasn't able to convince him to turn around.

So what? Maybe he didn't like sports. Maybe he'd rather read or something instead. Or maybe he'd rather do karate instead of running laps and playing tag football. I wasn't terribly athletic in high school because reading and playing music were more important and interesting to me than organised sports; I didn't particularly suffer for it.

Its not that, i just wanted him to not look like a Staypuf marshmallow man and get a girlfriend. During my pairup with him we were often called "Timon and Pumba" or "Army of 3" jokingly because of our large differences in body. I didn't want to change him into an Olympian athlete, i just wanted him to be normal. I couldn't call him a "disgusting fat fuck" although i was sorely tempted to, and i felt unhappy because i couldn't save him. Maybe if i was more like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, i could have made a difference.

 

[VeX1le]

I just feel bad because I've failed my friend, just like Joker failed Pyle. At least the teacher didn't call him a "disguisting fatbody" although everyone was thinking it.

How do you know that people were thinking that he was a " disgusting fatbody"? How did you fail Pyle? If you were forced to do something would you do it? Your response might be because its healthy but many other people do worse things that harm the body. Smoking, drinking, and many other things can be worse. Also people don't just become there are many factors. One of them are people like you pressuring him to do something he doesn't want to do and making fun of him by calling his a "disgusting fatbody" and causing him to eat more due to depression or whatever. Oh and also don't say you failed someone when you couldn't force him to do something. Saying you failed is as if you owed him and made a promise to make him lose weight.

 

[Low Key]

I'm not fat, so no, it doesn't bother me.

But I think most fat people get their start when they are kids, mainly because they eat too much and get too little exercise, but also because their parents are probably also fat.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Just because someone hasn't tempered their body to more efficiently digest food doesn't make them less of a person, or a thing to be pitied. This is coming from a really skinny guy who eats right and walks a fair bit, but doesn't put any conscious effort towards exercise, and is, by any non BMI-metric, pretty out of shape. I can understand how some people don't really care.

 

[mrhappyface]

I just feel bad because I've failed my friend, just like Joker failed Pyle. At least the teacher didn't call him a "disguisting fatbody" although everyone was thinking it.

How do you know that people were thinking that he was a " disgusting fatbody"? How did you fail Pyle? If you were forced to do something would you do it? Your response might be because its healthy but many other people do worse things that harm the body. Smoking, drinking, and many other things can be worse. Also people don't just become there are many factors. One of them are people like you pressuring him to do something he doesn't want to do and making fun of him by calling his a "disgusting fatbody" and causing him to eat more due to depression or whatever. Oh and also don't say you failed someone when you couldn't force him to do something. Saying you failed is as if you owed him and made a promise to make him lose weight.

He was the last guy all the time. I didn't want him to be like that forever. I wanted him to be happy and live longer. Since habits start out younger, i wanted to change his life before it was too late. I didn't ever make fun of him, because i didn't think that wrecking his self esteem would help him, but i don't think i motivated him enough. Dammit, i'm a bad friend!

 

[brainfreeze215]

To be honest, my mentality combined with a slower metabolism would probably result in a fat kid. Luckily I'm blessed with good genes.

And there are a lot of genetic and socioeconomic factors that have influence over a person's weight as well. I think that if a person has the means, they should avoid and/or fight obesity.

 

[atalanta]

"Obesity, Does it bother you?"

No, why should it? Other people are other people and they can take care of themselves; they don't need false pity or concern trolling about their health and safety.

but unfortunately i wasn't able to convince him to turn around.

So what? Maybe he didn't like sports. Maybe he'd rather read or something instead. Or maybe he'd rather do karate instead of running laps and playing tag football. I wasn't terribly athletic in high school because reading and playing music were more important and interesting to me than organised sports; I didn't particularly suffer for it.

Its not that, i just wanted him to not look like a Staypuf marshmallow man and get a girlfriend. During my pairup with him we were often called "Timon and Pumba" or "Army of 3" jokingly because of our large differences in body. I didn't want to change him into an Olympian athlete, i just wanted him to be normal. I couldn't call him a "disgusting fat fuck" although i was sorely tempted to, and i felt unhappy because i couldn't save him. Maybe if i was more like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, i could have made a difference.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up a second here.

To begin with, if you're not already an athlete, PE is awful, it really is. I kind of take back what I said earlier; I hated PE and I hated being forced to do organised sports, but I would drop everything to go backpacking or skiing on a moment's notice. The problem I had with being athletic was that I hated being forced to play sports I wasn't any good at with people who played them competitively, or just running laps because we were Getting In Shape. PE ends up being fun times for the kids who actually like football, and either boring or traumatic for the people who'd rather be in the library. Already this lose-weight-be-"normal" plan was doomed to failure.

Second -- yeah, let me let you in on a little secret: people pick up on what you think of them. You thought of the poor guy with contempt, and he probably knew it; why would he put in effort for someone who thought of him as a disgusting fat fuck? Take it from a former social outcast -- when people think of you as lesser for whatever reason, there's only so much effort you can put into trying to fit in before you realise you're wasting your time, they'll hate you anyways, and you might as well put your energy into doing something productive instead. If I were stuck with a partner who thought I was disgusting, I can assure you, I'd be putting in the barest of bare minimums and praying for graduation.

Third, like I said before, he's just as capable of making decisions as you are. He does not need to be saved from himself. If he thought PE was a waste of time, it is not your place to decide he's wrong.

Finally, I have no idea who the people you're referencing are.

 

[mrhappyface]

Am i preaching when i said that "i couldn't save him?"