Obesity, Does it bother you?

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SextusMaximus

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Laziness, hereditery... there are even some disorders and conditions which cause people to become fat (I believe there was one on a House episode at some point).
 

mrhappyface

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atalanta said:
mrhappyface said:
atalanta said:
"Obesity, Does it bother you?"

No, why should it? Other people are other people and they can take care of themselves; they don't need false pity or concern trolling about their health and safety.

mrhappyface said:
but unfortunately i wasn't able to convince him to turn around.
So what? Maybe he didn't like sports. Maybe he'd rather read or something instead. Or maybe he'd rather do karate instead of running laps and playing tag football. I wasn't terribly athletic in high school because reading and playing music were more important and interesting to me than organised sports; I didn't particularly suffer for it.
Its not that, i just wanted him to not look like a Staypuf marshmallow man and get a girlfriend. During my pairup with him we were often called "Timon and Pumba" or "Army of 3" jokingly because of our large differences in body. I didn't want to change him into an Olympian athlete, i just wanted him to be normal. I couldn't call him a "disgusting fat fuck" although i was sorely tempted to, and i felt unhappy because i couldn't save him. Maybe if i was more like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, i could have made a difference.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up a second here.

To begin with, if you're not already an athlete, PE is awful, it really is. I kind of take back what I said earlier; I hated PE and I hated being forced to do organised sports, but I would drop everything to go backpacking or skiing on a moment's notice. The problem I had with being athletic was that I hated being forced to play sports I wasn't any good at with people who played them competitively, or just running laps because we were Getting In Shape. PE ends up being fun times for the kids who actually like football, and either boring or traumatic for the people who'd rather be in the library. Already this lose-weight-be-"normal" plan was doomed to failure.

Second -- yeah, let me let you in on a little secret: people pick up on what you think of them. You thought of the poor guy with contempt, and he probably knew it; why would he put in effort for someone who thought of him as a disgusting fat fuck? Take it from a former social outcast -- when people think of you as lesser for whatever reason, there's only so much effort you can put into trying to fit in before you realise you're wasting your time, they'll hate you anyways, and you might as well put your energy into doing something productive instead. If I were stuck with a partner who thought I was disgusting, I can assure you, I'd be putting in the barest of bare minimums and praying for graduation.

Third, like I said before, he's just as capable of making decisions as you are. He does not need to be saved from himself. If he thought PE was a waste of time, it is not your place to decide he's wrong.

Finally, I have no idea who the people you're referencing are.
If i didn't care about him, i wouldn't have tried. I didn't hate him, i thought him as a good friend, but yes, i didn't like how repulsive his body was. That's why i tried to change him. I was stuck with him because it was my duty and obligation as a gym partner to motivate and change him and also the fact that i was the only "solo" good athlete. Was i a bad friend? Or was it my friend's fault?
 

magnuslion

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funny, when I was in high school, we didn't lift weights because it was considered unnecessary for fitness. or I would have bludgeoned all you skinny fucks to death with it.
 

CoziestPigeon

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I agree with OP, obesity doesn't happen overnight. You can see it building for a long time. But people don't do anything because exercise causes pain when you aren't used to it, and it's much more comfortable to continue to sit on the couch, eating and watching TV.

I was in awesome shape in high school, captain of my football team even. Since then, I've let myself go hard, I'm only 2 years graduated and I'm getting a bit of a belly, and it bothers me. So I'm starting to go back to the gym, but JESUS it's a terrible thing to try and work out when you are that outta shape.
 

atalanta

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mrhappyface said:
If i didn't care about him, i wouldn't have tried. I didn't hate him, i thought him as a good friend, but yes, i didn't like how repulsive his body was. That's why i tried to change him. I was stuck with him because it was my duty and obligation as a gym partner to motivate and change him and also the fact that i was the only "solo" good athlete. Was i a bad friend? Or was it my friend's fault?
:|

About whether or not you were being a bad friend, man, how should I know? I'm assuming you did stuff other than be in the same class together, and it's not like I've ever seen you interact; for all I know he's going to ask you to be the best man at his wedding.

...Okay, look. Did he ever ask for help, or were you always the one who was pushing? Did he participate to the best of his abilities, or did he do the bare minimum of work? Did he seem glad to see you on days you had PE, or did he look like he was going to his execution?

Trying to force someone to change when they don't want to or don't care is a shitty thing to do, IMO -- I get that you had good intentions, and being concerned for a friend is all well and good, but at a certain point you need to step back and respect their decisions.

(hurf durf ETA: if he appreciated that you were making an effort, on the other hand, ignore that last bit there. It all boils down to whether or not he wanted what you were trying to get him to do.)
 

Flare Phoenix

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I am reminded of the news story last year where a guy put on a lot of weight, and worked to lose is again to prove it was not difficult to do so. It is easy, if you are skinny, to look at people who are not and think of them as lazy. Just because someoen doesn't like sports does not mean they are lazy.

P.E. is one of the worst things when you are not very good at sports. The teachers don't really care, and the more atheltic students are too wrapped up in the competition. I can see why some people wouldn't want to try in it (I, myself, didn't go to P.E. much during school).

By the way, you shouldn't judge people just because they are overweight or obese. That, to me, says a lot more about you as a person. I can't stand people who judge others based on their outer appearence; like there is something wrong with them just because they are not what they deem acceptable.
 

sms_117b

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Fat peeps are either lazy or ill, I've been getting fat over the last few months because I was ill and lost motivation, I hate myself right now, but as soon as this bug passes I'll be training again.

That being said it's not easy to turn it right around, you really have to want it. Personally, I can't understand people that don't want to "turn it around" and get fit.
 

Rhade

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If you live somewhere that obesity is low (say, not in the US) and then immediately jump to a region that is (many parts of the US, for example) the difference in how much it bothers you might change rather quickly. Like anything else that people learn to tolerate as they move through society I've found how much it bothers people is usually related to how much they have to see it blatantly and how often it gets in their way somehow or makes annoyances for them.

Personally I tend to think of it as part of an equation. If low-intellect, poor/anti-social skills, lack of manners, and other various things are part of it then it's likely to make them more annoying, if not...well it's never easy to overlook, but at least it makes it easier not to focus on or take shots at (if deserving).
 

SilentVirus

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They don't bother me really, But I feel that they are sometimes fat because they never try to give 110%. Other times its a illness they have no control of.
 

mrhappyface

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Slayer_2 said:
I agree. Although I'm definitely NOT a stud who has a hundred pounds of muscle, I'm quite a decent weight for my height: 155 pounds at 6'2. I don't care much about if you're fat, I just fail to understand how you can allow it to happen. Laziness, I suppose.
Wow! When i was in high school i was normal weight but i was 4% body fat. My gym teacher said that i was supposed to look like an Aushwitz victim, but i wasn't luckily. It was kind of weird though to my friends, who said that having a 6 pack and your ribs sticking out simultaneously didn't look good.
 

josetaco

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let me share something
i am overweight but for most of my adult life my jobs
have been very physical.
every once in a while at my current job young 18 year college students
come to my job as summer help. They are young and hit the gym all the
time so they are in good shape. But when it comes time to lifting somthing
heavy or ungainly they can't do it. I'll never forget the look on the kids face when
I picked up 220 pound object that he couldn't get of the ground.
ya i may look like bag of shit but their is still some steel under there.
 

darkfire613

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I'm fat, and honestly, I don't care. If you are so bothered or offended or sympathetic because I'm a little rounder than everyone else, suck it up and move on. I dislike all sports, both watching and playing, because what is so entertaining about watching people throw/kick/carry a ball around? They bore me. I'm a high academic achiever, and have many extracurricular activities that I enjoy. I have friends, both male and female, and I'm happy. Why does everyone else care so much?