They're dirtbags too, if this isn't faked (which I'm starting to think it is). The difference is that they aren't dirtbags wearing a uniform and sworn to protect the public.Kopikatsu said:
Occupy Wall Street - Police Officer parks his motorbike on the leg of a protester (Breaking his leg)
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They are technically protecting the public. By killing off these media members, the outside world does not receive word of this protest. This results in ignorance on the topic, eventually to be forgotten. Eventually the world will forget the corruption in Wall-Street, leaving people happy about the problem-free economy they are brainwashed into knowing.Pandabearparade said:
So yes, this police officer is saving our children's future by creating ignorance.
This sucks for the guy. Especially since I support what the protesters are supposed to do.
However, I'm not saying this is right or anything, but things like this are going to happen in any large scale protest at ANY place on the globe when large amounts of police have to contain the situation.
Not just a guy getting run over by a bike, but people getting punched, pepper-sprayed, etc...
You all shouldn't be surprised.
EDIT:
Actually, after looking at that video closer, that guy is a fucking drama queen.
His leg isn't in front of the scooter at the beginning of the video. Sounds like he fell down and slipped it in front of the second wheel and started screaming.
Set up.
However, I'm not saying this is right or anything, but things like this are going to happen in any large scale protest at ANY place on the globe when large amounts of police have to contain the situation.
Not just a guy getting run over by a bike, but people getting punched, pepper-sprayed, etc...
You all shouldn't be surprised.
EDIT:
Actually, after looking at that video closer, that guy is a fucking drama queen.
His leg isn't in front of the scooter at the beginning of the video. Sounds like he fell down and slipped it in front of the second wheel and started screaming.
Set up.
They're misusing several laws to arrest peaceful protesters. That is blatantly unconstitutional. The right to assembly couldn't be more clear in the constitution if the founders got a megaphone and screamed it in your face.Naeo said:
... ... ...I just...I don't even know where to start with you. So I'll fix your statement!Utrechet said:
"They are technically protecting the public by killing off members of the media because the Media seems to be full of idiotic sensationalists who will do anything to whip up a storm, consequences be damned."
*Thumbs up*
Xanthious said:
Nice job being very insulting but not explaining in the least why he's wrong. Good luck appealing to the lowest common denominator.
I'm afraid you're already a member of the brainwashed crowd. Yes there is corruption on Wall-Street, but if your blaming our problems ONLY on Wall-Street that tells me you havn't done a lick of research for yourself and just gone off of what you're told to think. You need to protest Wall-Street AND the Government, because it's the government that allows this to happen. But even more important than that; what runs the government and Wall-Street, what's allowing all this economic chaos to occur? Answer: money, too much of it. So where does this money come from......Utrechet said:
Well, I'll just post this little cartoon here to help you understand, it's reasonably entertaining enough and it might give you a bit of an edumakashun
(sorry if it's a little sensationalist, but it gets the point across)
Not to be a jerk, but that guy kinda had it coming. I mean he was sitting in the middle of the street. It's also pretty convienent that a swarm of photographers just happened to be standing right next to him when it happened. How could a bike that size even break someone's leg? It's a small police scooter that ran over the jackass lying down in the street. It's not like the police grabbed a man off the street, tied him down, and mowed him down with a Charger.
I want to point out that I'm not being anti-protester, I'm trying to be anti-anti-cop. The protesters have a good reason for being there but so do the police, they are there to maintain law and order, they aren't being payed by the corporations to hit people with mopeds. People have been searching for anything that they can call "police brutality," which while things like being pepper sprayed and being accidentally hit by a scooter suck, they are nothing compared to what the police could be doing right now. What's stopping every single officer from rounding protesters up and beating the hell out of them? Or maybe firing rounds into the crowd?
I want to point out that I'm not being anti-protester, I'm trying to be anti-anti-cop. The protesters have a good reason for being there but so do the police, they are there to maintain law and order, they aren't being payed by the corporations to hit people with mopeds. People have been searching for anything that they can call "police brutality," which while things like being pepper sprayed and being accidentally hit by a scooter suck, they are nothing compared to what the police could be doing right now. What's stopping every single officer from rounding protesters up and beating the hell out of them? Or maybe firing rounds into the crowd?
Sheesh, so much animosity being demonstrated on this thread. So many personal attacks. So many warnings and suspensions...all over an attention-seeking troll.
I bow to your skills, O douchey one.
I bow to your skills, O douchey one.
alright, seriously, what the fuck is happening in that picture!? So, the cop roles up, blatantly parks his fucking bike on top of the screaming pedestrian, and then poses for a shot? bullshit! and what the hell is the guy doing lying in the god damn road for? and why didn't he move out of the way of the bike? or struggle as it was slowly parked on top of him?
And worst of all, what the fucking hell cameramen? oh no, screw helping the dumb bastard, just get a good close up of his screaming agony as nobody does anything to help him in the middle of a mob.
What I'm implying is this whole charade is bullshit at worst, and at the best is just a clusterfuck of random failings on the parts of everyone involved... much like the "protests" themselves.
And worst of all, what the fucking hell cameramen? oh no, screw helping the dumb bastard, just get a good close up of his screaming agony as nobody does anything to help him in the middle of a mob.
What I'm implying is this whole charade is bullshit at worst, and at the best is just a clusterfuck of random failings on the parts of everyone involved... much like the "protests" themselves.
So, I watched the video. Educational.Hammartroll said:
However, the most important part of it, that I felt, was the 'People taking loans they didn't need.' is what started the entire cycle.
Basically, people were greedy and that greed ended up crashing the economy on a global scale. Kind of reminds me of the Bernie Madoff thing. People heard 'Low risk high reward' and drowned him in money because all they could think about was getting more money.
So! I don't blame the Federal Reserve or the Government. I blame the greedy ass middle class. (It rhymes!)
I am only on the first page still but I beleive I should reply to this even though you have already had someone say something similar to this.idarkphoenixi said:
Have you seen the X rays? Have we had him examined so that we can prove hes actually got a broken leg or have you only seen a picture of his leg in a cast/air cast/brace. Or have there been no photos of that and you are just going by what was told to the news that the guy has a broken leg?
I'm not too sure you are too keen on the working of modern Capitalism, otherwise you wouldn't be saying 'people who don't know how Capitalism works' in conjunction with complaining about people complaining about a broken system. Just writing that sentence was painful enough.Smagmuck_ said:
Keynesian theory of economics is what we live in today, it is not Capitalism in its John Locke envisioned form, and I doubt it is the Capitalism that many people are taught about in school. We live in a world of fiat domination where work is rewarded with 'stuff' that has no value outside of the value someone says it has. Then we trade that 'stuff' for tangible valuables, or we save it to spend it later, and the chain goes on and on. This is pretty much high school economics for Capitalism: I do work, I get paid, I am happy, I compete to do better, if I succeed I get paid better, I am happier. The problem that arises, though, (and this is where Keynesian thought comes into play) is what has been happing since ~1913: printing money to stimulate/foster the stagnating private and/or work sectors which at the same time devalues your 'stuff'. How do you trade 'stuff' for tangible goods when said 'stuff' has a value that is inversely proportional to the amount of ink at the Fed? How does a person save 'stuff' when his 'stuff' losses value for every turn of printing press? Now a person has to work harder to make his 'stuff' go the same distance as it did before because his wage of 'stuff' hasn't changed. Little by little this leads to people losing their motivation or becoming akin to indentured servants just so that they can get that next shiny iPhone... and this doesn't help the economy, or the private sector, or people. It just leads to joblessness, more and more poor, and a decline of your middle class.
And then...! The government swoops in to save the people from the problems it created. It puts into place a welfare system to keep the people fed and happy (fear of the mob), systems it cannot pay for or support without printing more money... and the cycle spirals out of control. When the invisible hand of Locke's Capitalism became very, very visible and called: big government, you know something went wrong.
What we have today is, quite simply, a failing Keynesian Model of Economics hiding a very entrenched and rotting system of Croony Capitalism.
And this had nothing to do with the rioting as I doubt many of them know any of this... but, at least, let's not whine about people whining about a broken system. No system is perfect, all systems fail, and as any history class will quickly teach you: they all end in one revolutionary form or another. There is no such thing as: "Don't complain because you don't understand." That is as irrelevant now as it was to the peasants in the French Revolution. People do not need to understand anything, they will tear down everything, good or bad, if it inconveniences them or until they are put down.
typical bullshit, assuming I have a side in this and not just happen to be a spiteful person who hates most protesters in general, especially those who don't know why they are there and make cops look bad even though they probably did nothing.Pandabearparade said:
Also, i like how you took my comment out of text and didn't show the whole thing. Not that it matters really. I already expressed my distaste for these protesters. My opinion buddy boy.
I'm surprised I sat through the entire thing. It wasn't bad (at presenting its argument). That said, it did suffer from a bit of "they're greedy, we're 'expanding' or improving our situation."Hammartroll said:I'm afraid you're already a member of the brainwashed crowd. Yes there is corruption on Wall-Street, but if your blaming our problems ONLY on Wall-Street that tells me you havn't done a lick of research for yourself and just gone off of what you're told to think. You need to protest Wall-Street AND the Government, because it's the government that allows this to happen. But even more important than that; what runs the government and Wall-Street, what's allowing all this economic chaos to occur? Answer: money, too much of it. So where does this money come from......Utrechet said:
Well, I'll just post this little cartoon here to help you understand, it's reasonably entertaining enough and it might give you a bit of an edumakashun
(sorry if it's a little sensationalist, but it gets the point across)
Still, thanks for posting it. Most of it wasn't new to me, but a bit was.