Occupy Wall Street - Police Officer parks his motorbike on the leg of a protester (Breaking his leg)

[Gudrests]

{Sober Thal}]{That looked incredibly fake.

You never see him 'run over' his leg, you see him yelling while moving both feet back and forth under the bike between the wheels.}

So how do you explain him faking a broken leg??

That thrashing? The "alleged" broken leg? The fact that the video starts where he is already on the floor and the most that is touching his TOE is 1 bit of the tire? He never fully get "run over"..his feet stay under part of the bike which is....elevated?

Yeah, there is no report of the leg being broken. The lawyer interviewed 12 hours later never mentions it. But they do say they are being paid (supports Occupy New York Legally) by this group.

lolz

*paid at least in service, if not cash also.

Not to mention I know a WHOLE lot of NYC cops and X cops...they do there job, Yes they can be dicks. But I have never EVER met one that will purposly beat you and run you over because..."he is an evil pig"

 

[MrGuy]

... Is it so hard for people to believe that cops would do this? Maybe you guys have nicer cops than Colorado or something (which would blow my mind as our everything is generally friendlier than other states according to my experiences) and I have no problem imagine them doing this.

This is a great example of Confirmation Bias. If someone is accused of something, and you believe they're "the kind of person who I think would do something like that," you'll believe the accusation is accurate. You can imagine it happening in your mind--much more than someone who doesn't share your opinion does. It seems true. It feels true. But that doesn't make it true.

It's no different from people who believe the CIA assassinated JFK, because they believe the CIA is lead by people who are capable of that sort of thing.

It's not that the belief is necessarily wrong--I'm sure there are cops that are complete jerks, just as I'm sure there were people in the CIA who wouldn't have balked at killing the president if they felt it necessary. But that doesn't mean they shot JFK. And it doesn't necessarily make the cop in this photo the class warrior feelingless monster you're willing to believe him to be.

 

[Snotnarok]

Well lets be fair here...

When you see a moving lump of metal, do you :-

A) Stand in it's way, you are in a protest it's your right to halt the movement of a rapidly moving metal bike of death.

B) Lie on the floor right where the bike is going.

Thats not police brutality thats pedestrian stupidity.

If someone is mind numbingly thick enough to get in the way of a moving vehicle then they deserve it.

Also, check out the cameramen....

"Don't bother helping him lads, get a close up of that look of pain"

Why would he stop filming or help him? That's bad for TV!

 

[Jegsimmons]

Dumbass should get up out of the road.

Guy's making a right fucking meal of it, like footballers do when they dive and roll around screaming. He saw the cameras and went for it, and came out looking like a bit of a melodramatic pussy.

Both of my legs were run over by 11 tonnes of 54 seater coach....I never made all that noise. That bike weighs probably 140kg, maybe 150. I've dropped heavier things on my foot at work!!

Not saying what the cop did was right, but the protester.....twat.

i was wondering that too, i know its possible to break someones legs on a motorcycle, but not all THAT likely, and what the hell was he doing infront of one for?

I call foul play on the protester side.

 

[Gudrests]

{Sober Thal}]{That looked incredibly fake.

You never see him 'run over' his leg, you see him yelling while moving both feet back and forth under the bike between the wheels.}

So how do you explain him faking a broken leg??

That thrashing? The "alleged" broken leg? The fact that the video starts where he is already on the floor and the most that is touching his TOE is 1 bit of the tire? He never fully get "run over"..his feet stay under part of the bike which is....elevated?

Yeah, there is no report of the leg being broken. The lawyer interviewed 12 hours later never mentions it. But they do say they are being paid (supports Occupy New York Legally) by this group.

lolz

*paid at least in service, if not cash also.

Not to mention I know a WHOLE lot of NYC cops and X cops...they do there job, Yes they can be dicks. But I have never EVER met one that will purposly beat you and run you over because..."he is an evil pig"

People don't realize how much good police do every hour of every day. They just love to hate on them for the incredibly few times a cop errs or is shown in a misleading light, like now.

Also, cops are not required (nor should they be) to act like happy soft fluffy ponies.

Thank god they don't I would much rather have them handle this situation like this rather than...ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH.......I think we just keep agreeing with each other lol

 

[BlazeRaider]

He had his leg broken in this incident.

This is probably going to make me sound like a dick, but did you ever possibly consider that maybe he lied about having his leg broken? And, atop of that, I find it hard to believe that a Moped can break a leg, it simply isn't heavy enough, even with a 180 lb Officer of the Law on it. And if you look at the photo itself, his leg isn't even under it, it's his foot, and it isn't even wedged in such a way for the foot to be given any harm. Maybe I'm just beating a dead horse here, but it looks like you're defending a village that's already been sacked. Sorry, but this isn't just enough credible evidence for us to believe it.

I'm glad you aren't the leader of my country, because no offense you have shit standards and if your attitude at all reflects your actions then Canada's standard of living with plummet.

So you're saying that everyone, regardless if they're making 40k a year, should be supported fully by the Gov't? Because the way I see it. The majority of people in the streets have made a very poor life decision that got them that way, and therefore, the Gov't shouldn't wait on them hand and foot. Everyone has potential to make as much money as they wish, so long as they do it in the right fashion. You're not simply born out your mother entitled to everything you will have in your life. You have to earn it, and a single screw up, will undo everything. That's life, and these people don't know it.

No, in case you somehow missed the quote that I was replying to, I was referring to YOUR idea that in general people shouldn't complain about anything until its as bad as North Korea, I was saying that's batshit insane.

 

[Jegsimmons]

I would also like someone to tell me what the protests are about. They say "Down with Wall Street", what does that mean. It's not going anywhere. They aren't going to get jobs protesting. So what are their demands. What do they reasonably want to happen? A Cap on corporate payouts? Why? That doesn't effect you, it's a business, and it's up the shareholder to dicate the salaries of the executives. Welcome to corporate, welcome to capatilsm and the free market. I personlly don't agree with payouts to Bank executives of $50MM, when they off 10000 people. So what did I do, I bought shares and I am able to speak at shareholder conventions. I also think things are slowly changing. It's not going to happen over night. And more executives need to be held accountable, not because of criminal acts, but they shouldn't be paid their big bonus if they have to lay off people.

I'd rather see the people who are accountable to us, the government, not get lifetime benefits.. Where are those protests. We actually are the shareholders of the government. America has some work to do and maybe the protesters are just trying to bring to light certain bad practices, but they aren't very clear.

geez when you put capitalism that way it sounds sort of like...democracy on a privatized business level........why are these people marching against corporations again? did they kill their dogs?

also, why do people protest corporations like banks, insurance companies, and other companies that may not have anything to do with them but no one protest the rich asswipes in hollywood who are the ACTUAL evil buisness people? oh wait, the lack of movies and dumb shows would be inconvenient to their spoiled lives. (and i say spoiled because they apparently have time to march and ***** instead finding a ...you know...job.)

 

[Smagmuck_]

He had his leg broken in this incident.

This is probably going to make me sound like a dick, but did you ever possibly consider that maybe he lied about having his leg broken? And, atop of that, I find it hard to believe that a Moped can break a leg, it simply isn't heavy enough, even with a 180 lb Officer of the Law on it. And if you look at the photo itself, his leg isn't even under it, it's his foot, and it isn't even wedged in such a way for the foot to be given any harm. Maybe I'm just beating a dead horse here, but it looks like you're defending a village that's already been sacked. Sorry, but this isn't just enough credible evidence for us to believe it.

I'm glad you aren't the leader of my country, because no offense you have shit standards and if your attitude at all reflects your actions then Canada's standard of living with plummet.

So you're saying that everyone, regardless if they're making 40k a year, should be supported fully by the Gov't? Because the way I see it. The majority of people in the streets have made a very poor life decision that got them that way, and therefore, the Gov't shouldn't wait on them hand and foot. Everyone has potential to make as much money as they wish, so long as they do it in the right fashion. You're not simply born out your mother entitled to everything you will have in your life. You have to earn it, and a single screw up, will undo everything. That's life, and these people don't know it.

No, in case you somehow missed the quote that I was replying to, I was referring to YOUR idea that in general people shouldn't complain about anything until its as bad as North Korea, I was saying that's batshit insane.

Yeah, and I'm sticking to that point. People shouldn't start complaining when they live in a country that doesn't have them lined up and shot, when there are countries that DO. It's like a five year old complaining that he doesn't have enough chocolate milk when the kid next to him doesn't have any.

 

[Naeo]

He had his leg broken in this incident.

This is probably going to make me sound like a dick, but did you ever possibly consider that maybe he lied about having his leg broken? And, atop of that, I find it hard to believe that a Moped can break a leg, it simply isn't heavy enough, even with a 180 lb Officer of the Law on it. And if you look at the photo itself, his leg isn't even under it, it's his foot, and it isn't even wedged in such a way for the foot to be given any harm. Maybe I'm just beating a dead horse here, but it looks like you're defending a village that's already been sacked. Sorry, but this isn't just enough credible evidence for us to believe it.

I'm glad you aren't the leader of my country, because no offense you have shit standards and if your attitude at all reflects your actions then Canada's standard of living with plummet.

So you're saying that everyone, regardless if they're making 40k a year, should be supported fully by the Gov't? Because the way I see it. The majority of people in the streets have made a very poor life decision that got them that way, and therefore, the Gov't shouldn't wait on them hand and foot. Everyone has potential to make as much money as they wish, so long as they do it in the right fashion. You're not simply born out your mother entitled to everything you will have in your life. You have to earn it, and a single screw up, will undo everything. That's life, and these people don't know it.

No, in case you somehow missed the quote that I was replying to, I was referring to YOUR idea that in general people shouldn't complain about anything until its as bad as North Korea, I was saying that's batshit insane.

Yeah, and I'm sticking to that point. People shouldn't start complaining when they live in a country that doesn't have them lined up and shot, when there are countries that DO. It's like a five year old complaining that he doesn't have enough chocolate milk when the kid next to him doesn't have any.

So basically, if anywhere out there is worse off than us, we don't have a right to complain about our situation at all.

Gotcha.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm not sure which is worse, the people bitching about the first amendment or the police apologists.

I know it's the internet and all, but it's really disheartening to see so many people behaving like sociopaths.

 

[Smagmuck_]

So basically, if anywhere out there is worse off than us, we don't have a right to complain about our situation.

Gotcha.

I never said we didn't have a right. I said we shouldn't.

Can you protest a country that uses a system that you don't like? Yes, sure go right ahead, I won't stop you.

But should you when there are people who would be glad just to live there? No.

 

[Hammartroll]

[In response to Calibretto's response to xvBones 137) 15 October 2011 9:29 pm]

1. I need to watch that documentery, but I already have a pretty good idea why our school system sucks. If the documentery's a POS I might get back to you on it.

2. I've heard many people in the OWS movement say we need to completely get rid of the current system and the only replacement system I've heard them talk about is a socialist system... do you want to live in a socialist society? It's OK of you do, but it should be obvious that the vast majority of America dosn't.
This thing about a ordaining a presidential commission seems like it might be a good idea but they need to think it out A LOT more if people are going to consider supporting it cause right now I have no idea what that would involve. The rest of what you said in that paragraph was just more rhetoric.

3. I also need to see that documentery but I agree that the main stream media picks and chooses what it wants us to know, what I don't agree with is that they're blacking out these protests. They may have not noticed the protests back on Sept 17, cause I don't think I heard about them until like a week after they started, but none-the-less I heard about them on a Fox owned radio station, and now it's all I see in the main stream media.

4. Revolutions supported only by the young ususally end in violence and dictatorship because youth can be easily manipulated due to lack of life experiance, just look at Cambodia's revolution. Luckily I see plenty of older people in these protests... but I guess that dosn't stop them from being tools as well.

5. people will start to be put in FEMA camps when people start being violent. Violence isn't nessicary to usher change in America, our electoral system still works fine if people educate themselves, but with these fake cases of police brutality, violence may be just around the corner.

6. I love your quote at the bottom because it's largely correct, that the economic crisis can be blamed on bank bailouts and the housing crisis. Well guess who's fault both of those problems are? THE FRAKING GOVERNMENT but I don't see anyone in OWS getting mad at the government, only.. I guess the rich. Fanny May and Freddie Mac can largely be blamed for the housing crisis and they're owned by the government, but no one's saying anything about them. And the bank bailouts is Obama's fault, but no one's blaming Obama or anyone in our government for that. It seems like OWS supports Obama and Obama supports them but FUCKING WHY! Obama bailed the banksters and Wall Street cronies out, THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO SCREW YOU OVER. If these protesters had a clue they'd relocate to the White House because it's the government that needs to put regulations on Wall Street, but Obama won't do shit and you won't relize that cause your side of the media has you thinking he's god or something.

Replace the Obama administration with someone we can trust and get rid of the Fed, Wall Street criminals won't have a leg to stand on.

 

[jpoon]

Good god, what a fucking douchebag cop! Hope they throw the book at him for sure. No wonder cops are disrespected and/or hated nationwide.

 

[BlazeRaider]

So basically, if anywhere out there is worse off than us, we don't have a right to complain about our situation.

Gotcha.

I never said we didn't have a right. I said we shouldn't.

Can you protest a country that uses a system that you don't like? Yes, sure go right ahead, I won't stop you.

But should you when there are people who would be glad just to live there? No.

But there are probably people who would be happy to live in North Korea, chances are there is a person in this world who is in worse circumstances then someone in North Korea. Following your logic people starving in North Korea shouldn't complain because someone else has it worse. Your way of thinking seems to revolve around being fine no matter how bad your circumstances are just because it could be worse, what if it works in reverse to? Progress occurs because people strive for something better then they already have, instead of being content with the bare minimum. Is it wrong to want better for your family and yourself?

 

[Jegsimmons]

Good god, what a fucking douchebag cop! Hope they throw the book at him for sure. No wonder cops are disrespected and/or hated nationwide.

geez you think people would learn to at least read the first pages on a thread with 5 or more pages.

YOU MIGHT FIND SOMETHING NEW!!!! like maby that the guy getting hit was fakeing?

 

[Hero in a half shell]

So basically, if anywhere out there is worse off than us, we don't have a right to complain about our situation.

Gotcha.

I never said we didn't have a right. I said we shouldn't.

Can you protest a country that uses a system that you don't like? Yes, sure go right ahead, I won't stop you.

But should you when there are people who would be glad just to live there? No.

You make it sound like these people are unhappy with the way their bin men greet them while collecting the garbage. These people have genuine concerns and grievances to complain about.

They have lost jobs, savings, maybe even property in this mess while all the banks continue to rake in the money and fill their pockets. It very much appears that the ridiculous debt that everyone's been passing around has finally got to be paid. And no one has the money to do it. Greec hasn't looked this bad since the Persians invaded, and Ireland is quickly following them. Europe is circling the plughole. No one has money and everyone is trying to continue to ignore the deficit, but that plan is not working.

Yes, there are people in North Korea with no Social or political freedom, but that doesn't mean that we don't have a care in the world, and live the life of riley. We can't just sit back and watch our system degenerate until it's as corrupt and hopeless as North Koreas, because some people are worse off.

 

[Firia]

That is RIOT material. People FIGHT back against brutality of that measure.

 

[jpoon]

Good god, what a fucking douchebag cop! Hope they throw the book at him for sure. No wonder cops are disrespected and/or hated nationwide.

geez you think people would learn to at least read the first pages on a thread with 5 or more pages.

YOU MIGHT FIND SOMETHING NEW!!!! like maby that the guy getting hit was fakeing?

I think the worst part about it was that the cops didn't bother to really give a shit. Maybe his leg was broken maybe not, the decency to at least remove the bike from his leg and get him medical attention was obviously lacking. The cops should still take the blame for this had his leg been broken, if not then after the doctor visit the guy should be the one getting the blame and the bill.