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Saelune said:
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Saelune said:
But then again, people also like to act popular. And since I think most MLP fans on here are posers, its not farfetched to think saying one is bi is the same...likely by the same people.
Oh boy... you'd best not be opening up that can of worms...

Of course you're comment just reinforced what I said earlier, that it seems like everyone here is too cynical to comprehend that people genuinely like things.
Oh I believe there are some 18-30 year old men who genuinly like MLP. But the explosion of people who act like it is some amazing thing I cannot believe. But that is not the point of this thread, just an example. What is popular is not always good, or actually liked by many.
Well we're hardly on a 'mainstream' website. Most people on here enjoy 'alternative' forms of entertainment or live 'alternative' lifestyles. So is it really that surprising that alot of people on here genuinely like MLP:FiM or are genuinely bisexual? I mean, most people on here probably enjoy video games in one form or another but that doesn't mean playing video games is mainstream.
 

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Sure, I implied sexuality is a choice, I figured I'd get called out on it. I guess I feel that in some regards it is, but for the most part no. For instance, I know a lot of guys I could have a far better emotional relationship with even though I have no physical pull towards them. So, its my choice to not go after them, because a relationship is has to be somewhat physical in my eyes. I think some people decide that the physical doesn't matter at all and choose to go bisexual, some, not all. And while you're right that it doesn't exactly double your chances, hell it may even lower them if your accurate and I have no reason to dis-believe you, I just think, as stated amongst gaming crowds, bisexual present more options sometimes, and this is more from personal experience rather than actual figures or numbers.
You seem to have missed the point. What you said was that gamers choose to 'become' bisexual. Nobody becomes bisexual. You have the attraction to whichever, or both, sexes and that's that. Whether you act on them or not is completely irrelevant to your sexuality.
So you're saying people can't be straight then become gay? Or that you can't be gay then go straight? Well then, might as well invoke the death penalty on all convicts because they can't change either.
 

Saelune

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Irony said:
Saelune said:
Irony said:
Saelune said:
But then again, people also like to act popular. And since I think most MLP fans on here are posers, its not farfetched to think saying one is bi is the same...likely by the same people.
Oh boy... you'd best not be opening up that can of worms...

Of course you're comment just reinforced what I said earlier, that it seems like everyone here is too cynical to comprehend that people genuinely like things.
Oh I believe there are some 18-30 year old men who genuinly like MLP. But the explosion of people who act like it is some amazing thing I cannot believe. But that is not the point of this thread, just an example. What is popular is not always good, or actually liked by many.
Well we're hardly on a 'mainstream' website. Most people on here enjoy 'alternative' forms of entertainment or live 'alternative' lifestyles. So is it really that surprising that alot of people on here genuinely like MLP:FiM or are genuinely bisexual? I mean, most people on here probably enjoy video games in one form or another but that doesn't mean playing video games is mainstream.
While I accept it is POSSIBLE they all genuinly like it, I also hold that it is POSSIBLE that alot of liars and posers might be on this site.
 

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Snowalker said:
Sure, I implied sexuality is a choice, I figured I'd get called out on it. I guess I feel that in some regards it is, but for the most part no. For instance, I know a lot of guys I could have a far better emotional relationship with even though I have no physical pull towards them. So, its my choice to not go after them, because a relationship is has to be somewhat physical in my eyes. I think some people decide that the physical doesn't matter at all and choose to go bisexual, some, not all. And while you're right that it doesn't exactly double your chances, hell it may even lower them if your accurate and I have no reason to dis-believe you, I just think, as stated amongst gaming crowds, bisexual present more options sometimes, and this is more from personal experience rather than actual figures or numbers.
You seem to be confused between sexuality and sex. Of course you can choose to have sex with another guy, or anyone, but you cannot choose whether or not you're attracted to them. You talk about gamers choosing to "become bisexual" simply because their choices are... somehow lowered or lessened because they're gamers? No, just no...

It doesn't "double your chances", this is something people really need to stop claiming/saying/sharing. The fact that people genuinely believe this is dumbfounding.

And I can honestly say that most anyone within the LGBT community wouldn't believe or support this absurd idea that sexuality is a choice.

Snowalker said:
I disagree, your sentiment is nice and all, but I feel like if we don't make a choice, subconscious or not, about what feelings we should act on, we would all be bisexual (of varying degrees mind you), and I think Biology backs me on that aswell.
Sexuality has nothing to do with choice. Any feelings or emotion we develop towards another person are absolutely not under our control. Yes, you're right, we choose to act on those feelings, but that certainly doesn't make sexuality a choice.
 

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I find people who claim to be bisexual or, ugh, "omnisexual" to be really fucking annoying.

I've never met someone who identified as such who WASN'T an unbearably smug twat, like they really think they're the next step in human evolution because they like dicks and chicks.

"I don't really pay attention to someone's gender."

Fuck the fuck off.
 

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Maybe it's because people have started to realize that being bi is a lot more common than you'd think. I mean, sexuality isn't - like so many people have pointed out - a case of black and white. There is a Sliding Scale of Sexuality [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KinseyScaleOfTropes], Here [http://triptotheouthouse.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kinsey-scale.jpg?w=500&h=284] is a better picture.

I don't get why people make such a Big Fucking Deal out of sexuality though. I really don't care if you're straight or gay or transsexual or asexual or pansexual or bisexual. Your sexuality is not your entire identity. Which is why I find it quite annoying when people bring it up out of nowhere and for no reason. Or when they make their sexuality their entire identity, because if you mention your sexuality every ten seconds, you just make it look like you are not at all sure about your sexuality at all.
Oh and by the way, Have I Mentioned I'm Heterosexual Today? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday]
 

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Maybe, just maybe, the people who use it as an excuse to put an opinion across is because they feel that their opinion isn't interesting enough so they have to include sexuality...
 

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If I were to form my opinion on what's 'normal' by societies standards by browsing internet forums, I would conclude that 'normal' people as we know it are the least 'normal' ones since everyone on the 'net seems to be a furry, lgb, asexual or into MLP. Not that I care, it's just that often times I feel like an outsider, which is weird for an average built 100% white male heterosexual.

And seriously, what's up with the whole MLP craze? At first I thought it was a meme or some kind of satire that crawled behind me unto the internet while I wasn't looking, but it looks like I have been proven wrong and everyone genuinely likes a terrible show aimed at the one digit age group.
 

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I can see your point and I agree with you 100%. I can't stand people that drop stuff into a conversation when nobody asked. I had a chat with a girl at school and we were talking about how expensive it is to live by yourself. I can remember her telling me that she was bisexual and it had nothing to do with paying bills or buying food. I could care less and it didn't stop me from talking to her, I just can't stand people that self promote. Its kind of like going to a party and having some random person tell you that he is lawyer, yeah thats great, I never asked nor do I care.
 

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Chefodeath said:
Just a little something I've noticed about the escapist is that you see a lot of people chiming in with the "I'm bi so this, this, and this ^.^"

The fact that I've always found this slightly annoying aside (Seriously, what the fuck does your sexual preference have to do with what kind of food you like?) Its always struck me as strange that we see more bisexuals proclaiming themselves than just straight up gay people doing it. It was my understanding that there are significantly more people identifying themselves as gay than as bisexual.

So, anyone have an explanation for this?

tl;dr: You see more bisexuals on the escapist than gays. Why?
This just tends to be true amount nerdier circles in my experience. I'd chalk it up to the general trend toward nerds being less insistent about pigeon-holing themselves into traditional social categories. It's just as common among gay people to really insist that they're completely, totally, and exclusively attracted to the same gender as straight people are to the opposite gender, if not more common. I think you just see less of that attitude among nerds in general, and even less on pseudonomyous internet forums.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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Saelune said:
Irony said:
Saelune said:
Irony said:
Saelune said:
But then again, people also like to act popular. And since I think most MLP fans on here are posers, its not farfetched to think saying one is bi is the same...likely by the same people.
Oh boy... you'd best not be opening up that can of worms...

Of course you're comment just reinforced what I said earlier, that it seems like everyone here is too cynical to comprehend that people genuinely like things.
Oh I believe there are some 18-30 year old men who genuinly like MLP. But the explosion of people who act like it is some amazing thing I cannot believe. But that is not the point of this thread, just an example. What is popular is not always good, or actually liked by many.
Well we're hardly on a 'mainstream' website. Most people on here enjoy 'alternative' forms of entertainment or live 'alternative' lifestyles. So is it really that surprising that alot of people on here genuinely like MLP:FiM or are genuinely bisexual? I mean, most people on here probably enjoy video games in one form or another but that doesn't mean playing video games is mainstream.
While I accept it is POSSIBLE they all genuinly like it, I also hold that it is POSSIBLE that alot of liars and posers might be on this site.
Agreed. It is entirely possible that a large portion of the 'fandom' is actually just hopping on the latest bandwagon, but it's pretty damn hard to figure out what the percentage of it are doing just that.
 

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I was bi, but I'm counting myself as straight and open-minded nowadays. I'm rarely attracted to guys and am more comfortable around women
 

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Babitz said:
And seriously, what's up with the whole MLP craze?
Search bar, for the love of Christ please the search bar to find the answer to your question before making a thread asking that same question. That thread comes along practically once a weak, so if you look at even one of them you'll find plenty of people who'll be willing to explain it to you. Persoanlly, I can't be arsed.
 

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OmniscientOstrich said:
Babitz said:
And seriously, what's up with the whole MLP craze?
Search bar, for the love of Christ please the search bar to find the answer to your question before making a thread asking that same question. That thread comes along practically once a weak, so if you look at even one of them you'll find plenty of people who'll be willing to explain it to you. Persoanlly, I can't be arsed.
I wasn't going to open a thread for it, even though I'm considering it now to spite you and your patronizing manner.

But whatever, I looked it up on ED already.
There's no hope for humanity, I'm afraid.
 

Mudze

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Statistically more bisexual people than either straight or gay... So yeah... You know, that might have something to do with it.
 

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Chefodeath said:
tl;dr: You see more bisexuals on the escapist than gays. Why?
One possibility? People lie on the internet. They lie to themselves, and to others. And it's not about sexual preference, either.

On the internet, we can claim any number of special states that lend us credibility. How many people have you seen go from one topic to another, and they always seem to have a family member who works in whatever field is being discussed, or they've done it themselves, or...?

Making the claim that you "know someone" doesn't require much follow-up, either. But when you claim personal experience, you can sometimes paint yourself into a corner, especially with sexuality. For one, "knowing someone" is often not enough, because the topic is so personal. But if you claim to be straight, or you claim to be gay, you're shutting yourself out of half of the categories of experience. You can't pretend to know personally about the other side anymore.

However, if you claim to be bisexual, you can hop back and forth during conversation at will. You can pretend to intimately know the inner workings of either side of the discussion, whichever suits your needs at the moment.

Like a great many things out there, there are many people for whom it is true. But there are also many people who use the status to excuse certain behaviors or attach artificial credibility to their views. The only real way to keep things straight is to take it on a case-by-case basis. Don't trust them all automatically, but don't write them all off, either.
 

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Chefodeath said:
Just a little something I've noticed about the escapist is that you see a lot of people chiming in with the "I'm bi so this, this, and this ^.^"

The fact that I've always found this slightly annoying aside (Seriously, what the fuck does your sexual preference have to do with what kind of food you like?) Its always struck me as strange that we see more bisexuals proclaiming themselves than just straight up gay people doing it. It was my understanding that there are significantly more people identifying themselves as gay than as bisexual.

So, anyone have an explanation for this?

tl;dr: You see more bisexuals on the escapist than gays. Why?
The Escapist makes no sense demographically.

You look at a poll, you'll find homosexuality is far more common here than in real life. Also, bisexuality is incredibly popular here. So is asexuality.

My thoughts? Many of the people who say that are full of shit. Both bisexuality and asexuality are incredibly uncommon, yet quite often 20-40% of the poll rack up as that. They're liars, quite clearly.
 

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The moment someone puts out their sexuality before anything else makes me automatically tune them out? Reason why: Because they're attention-whoring morons who think that who they prefer to bed with somehow makes their argument/opinion more valid. Or that it makes people listen to them more. I care about the opinion, not who you sleep with/love. Now if your preference has SOMETHING to do with the actual topic(aka anything dealing in that particular community), then I will listen.

But telling me you're "bi" and you like apples, makes me not give a damn. I asked if you liked apples, not what tickles the pink fancy!

And I guess I could be considered omni, or whatever the hell the term is for someone who doesn't care so long as that person loves me for me. I don't pay attention to the labels because they don't matter to me. As long as the person loves me, and I love them; be it male OR female, then I really don't care about anything else.
 

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Babitz said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Babitz said:
And seriously, what's up with the whole MLP craze?
Search bar, for the love of Christ please the search bar to find the answer to your question before making a thread asking that same question. That thread comes along practically once a weak, so if you look at even one of them you'll find plenty of people who'll be willing to explain it to you. Persoanlly, I can't be arsed.
I wasn't going to open a thread for it, even though I'm considering it now to spite you and your patronizing manner.

But whatever, I looked it up on ED already.
There's no hope for humanity, I'm afraid.
Please, elucidate to me just at what point I was being condescending. I was merely trying to direct you to those who would give you an explanation as to why they enjoy the show and personally didn't tell you why I like it because there is no response I could conjure that one of the hundreds of people will have already listed. You do realise that ED is satirical, right? That everything on their is purposefully given a sardonic overview in order to offend people. As that is the purpose of trolling; to get under someone's skin for their own amusement. Adults liking something that is predominately marketed towards kids is nothing new, so I don't see why you think humanity is doomed because a minute subculture of people like a TV show. As a heads up, people opining their lack of humanity over trivial and inconsequential shit is quite a regular thread too.