Oh, Sony, this is just too funny.

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Sebenko

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generic gamer said:
I think kinect is being released on PC too, not sure how well it'll be supported but modders will be modders.
No it's not. LALALALALALALALALALALA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

NONONO, IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
 

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Liberaliter said:
Microsoft did one of these as well.

I think Kinect is looking best personally, because Move is just like the Wii. But overall, they all suck.
No buttons is really, really going to bite Microsoft hard. Basically, bye bye FPS', racing games etc unless you want a very watered down version of them.
I'm not going to buy any form of motion control to play FPS' though, that's what a controller is for. Motion controls should have specific games made to the strengths of such a system.
 

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This could be an advert for Kinect. Is there anyone who actually cares about the Move?
I like buttons. And frankly anyone into games properly does as well. How can you play a racer with no brake or accelerate? etc.
Which is why you'd use a normal controller, rather than all this motion capture stuff. The move seems to be going for the 'better version of the wii' approach as opposed to the 'heres our spin on motion capture' that kinects doing. That would be fine if it didn't cost a fortune more, but it does.
 

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poiumty said:
FEATURES | Sony | Microsoft
Buttons | Yes | No
Batteries | Yes | No
Phallic Object | Yes | No
Holding it like a stick | Yes | No
SHINY COLORED BALL | Yes | No
Actual controller | Yes | No
It's black | Yes | No
Requires touching | Yes | No
Rips off the Wiimote | Yes | No
Made by SONY | Yes | No

As we can all clearly see, the Move is the ultimately superior controller by a huge degree.
Haha, good one...

But seriously, all the motion control thingys don't look appealing to me.
 

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poiumty said:
FEATURES | Sony | Microsoft
Buttons | Yes | No
Batteries | Yes | No
Phallic Object | Yes | No
Holding it like a stick | Yes | No
SHINY COLORED BALL | Yes | No
Actual controller | Yes | No
It's black | Yes | No
Requires touching | Yes | No
Rips off the Wiimote | Yes | No
Made by SONY | Yes | No

As we can all clearly see, the Move is the ultimately superior controller by a huge degree.
I thought you were just being a fanboy/fangirl at first but looking down the list i find it really funny.
 

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So, Sony released a chart, pitting Move against the Wii and Kinect--


The funny thing is, while the chart shows it clearly beating the Wii, it only has 2 more "Yes"'s than Kinect. What's funnier is that, the two extra "No"'s on Kinect, are actually selling points for Kinect; they aren't missing features.

The two are: "Buttons" and "Rechargeable Batteries"
Kinect has always sold itself as a controller-less piece of hardware that plugs into the 360. As in, not needing batteries. Also, being controller-less, it obviously won't have buttons. Also, Kinect WILL allow 360 controller support, so technically, you have buttons (Although, with that same technicality, you do now need batteries)

Also, in the feedback it mentions "color-changing sphere". Really? They traded audio feedback for that?

Source: Destructoid [http://www.destructoid.com/sony-counts-the-ways-in-which-move-beats-kinect-wii-179505.phtml]
Those key features suck.

I'm not saying the Move's gonna be great or even good, but the alternatives definitely suck more.
 

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Well at least it seems to have a use in games, rather than arm flailing with input lag that you can't sit down with. And it's not 150. I mean look at the launch line-up:

Kinect Adventures (Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinectimals (Frontier Studio/Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinect Joy Ride (Big Park/Microsoft Game Studios)
Kinect Sports (Rare/Microsoft Game Studios)
Dance Central (MTV Games)
Your Shape: Fitness Evolved (Ubisoft)
EA Sports Active 2 (EA)
Deca Sports Freedom (Hudson)
Dance Masters (Konami)
Adrenalin Misfits (Konami)
Zumba Fitness (Majesco)
Sonic Free Riders (Sega)
The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout (THQ)
Motion Sports (Ubisoft)
Game Party: In Motion (Warner Bros.)

I also like how people are only calling Move a rip off when the Eyetoy has done what Kinect has since 2003.
 

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i think iv come to a decision, next generation of consoles i think ill give it a miss and just have a really good computer.
 

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Mazty said:
Danzaivar said:
Mazty said:
Danzaivar said:
This could be an advert for Kinect. Is there anyone who actually cares about the Move?
I like buttons. And frankly anyone into games properly does as well. How can you play a racer with no brake or accelerate? etc.
Which is why you'd use a normal controller, rather than all this motion capture stuff. The move seems to be going for the 'better version of the wii' approach as opposed to the 'heres our spin on motion capture' that kinects doing. That would be fine if it didn't cost a fortune more, but it does.
How is ripping off eyetoy original? o_O
It's original for this console generation, I guess. Don't recall saying that Kinect was original but I appreciate the strawman. :p

You seem to be a fan of the Move (the first I've seen no less!) so, what do you see as the Moves unique selling point that will allow for games on it which no other console can hope to match? My problem with the Move is just that I can't think of anything it would be good for which warrants the extra processing power the PS3 can chuck at it, compared to the Wii. I would LOVE for the Move to actually have something good that it can do, £300 on a PS3 for Littlebig Planet was not my best purchase.
 

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Jezzascmezza said:
poiumty said:
FEATURES | Sony | Microsoft
Buttons | Yes | No
Batteries | Yes | No
Phallic Object | Yes | No
Holding it like a stick | Yes | No
SHINY COLORED BALL | Yes | No
Actual controller | Yes | No
It's black | Yes | No
Requires touching | Yes | No
Rips off the Wiimote | Yes | No
Made by SONY | Yes | No

As we can all clearly see, the Move is the ultimately superior controller by a huge degree.
Haha, good one...

But seriously, all the motion control thingys don't look appealing to me.
I agree. If you wanted that you'd have bought a wii. I say the market is already spent on the casual move around section. It was stupid of both MS and Sony to jump on the bandwaggon. I'll be damned if any of those actually turns out to sell enough to be profitable (except Move which might sell enough in Japan alone).
 

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Move is just Wii motion control done a really really needlessly complex and expensive way. There are proabaly a thousend objects that camera could mistake for the controler bobble in peoples homes, out of all three solutions the Wii motion plus level of Wiimote still looks the best in terms of functionality, simplicity and the "Not fucking up" factor.

Also at E3 Move looked like it had one hell of a time lag on it, when he swung that golf club it literally came about a second later, He swung then the screen responded afterwards "Swing..... Swing!".

Kinect is still horribly crippled in my mind by the veriety of enviroments in peoples homes, the combined effect of what people wear, where people are and what colour people are could lead to some... interesting quirks at least and some monster law-suits at worst.
Reminds me of this video of camera tracking failing to track the black guy. The video was obviously made in good humour. Just don't read the comments that people make.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DT3tQqgRM
 

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Not interested in any of them.

Maybe I'd get Natal if it was like £50, but it's double that and then some, so no. The Wii is just shit - I'm still hurting from wasting £180 on it 3 years ago - and Move is the Wii in HD so I'm not interested in that either.
 

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Mazty said:
Liberaliter said:
Mazty said:
Liberaliter said:
Microsoft did one of these as well.

I think Kinect is looking best personally, because Move is just like the Wii. But overall, they all suck.
No buttons is really, really going to bite Microsoft hard. Basically, bye bye FPS', racing games etc unless you want a very watered down version of them.
I'm not going to buy any form of motion control to play FPS' though, that's what a controller is for. Motion controls should have specific games made to the strengths of such a system.
Really? Motion control is far more precise for FPS', in the same way a mouse is far better than a controller for FPS'. Kinetic is doing nothing that the eyetoy hasn't done before, with Move being the most powerful and all the strengths of wii and Kinetic put into one device. Whether it's actually any decent, as I can't stand the wii and Kinetic in my eyes looks awful, is another thing. But on bare paper, Move easily wins hands down.
Yep, Mouse or controller for me. Just preference but I find it more precise.