Oh, Sony, this is just too funny.
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Have you ever seen "the making of ..." In the extras of a dvd? When they use a green screen and those white balls to track movement? On the same lines as that, I suppose.Internet Kraken said:
It changes colour to indicate who is who on the screen, I am blue and you are yellow kind of thing.
it is coming to the PC however it will not have speech recognition sooo:generic gamer said:
If the as you can see if well as receive if the technology for speech recognition Sox balls off if
connect will not, speech recognition if server computers going to be stupid as if so came change for speech recognition is going to suck if it can
well, as you can see the technology for speech recognition sucks balls.
kinect will not have speech recognition which means tht the computer is going to be stupid, speech recognition is going to be dictated by windows so it is going to suck.
kinect will not have speech recognition which means tht the computer is going to be stupid, speech recognition is going to be dictated by windows so it is going to suck.
Again, Sony are missing the point of gaming. The hardware is NOT the reason to buy. The reason to buy is the GAMES. That's why Nintendo (especially) but also Microsoft focus on gaming experiences. Sony as usual put the cart before the horse and make it all about hardware. Who cares? Those features have to be used and THAT'S what gamers respond to. Perhaps this is why there appear to be more hardware arguments from Sony campers - because the promotion, at least for early adopters, is almost all about hardware.
Microsoft has an entire division working on new technologies like Kinect. I think it's called N.U.I. (natural user interface). I guess they really want Kinect to succeed.
Two words: mission accomplished!
Two words: mission accomplished!
Dude, it depends on what you use it for. Kinect has potential, just as the Move has potential. It depends on what type of game you want. If you want a game which maps body movement, then yes then Kinect is better. But what if the game CAN'T depend solely on body movement? What if you NEED controller input (for example, Gears of War 3?). Yes, You can use Kinect and the XBOX360 controller at the same time, but if you need to move your arms then you'll have to put down the controller, wave, pick up the controller, put it down again next time and so on. Using Kinect and the 360 controller in conjunction with each other would be a hassel, unless you only wanted to movement of your legs to matter, but who wants to hold a controller while twitching their legs around? I sure don't.
With Move, you can't map the body and the inputs are limited to what you do with your arms. This could allow PS3+Move games to have a much more normal feel, and a tighter focus. Sure, you'll only be swinging swords or aiming guns, but you could also move the character like you would in a regular game, and perform actions that can't be captured with any motion device (like taking cover, or traversing complex terrain). With Move, the controller also stays in your hand, so you don't have to forego it or pick it up and put it down regularly.
But then again, the stuff you can do with move can be done with the two analog sticks. I never had a problem with aiming guns or positioning swords in PS3 games before, and I don't want a bunch of "games" (Glorified Tech-Demos) in which you have to do the same thing over and over again.
I say ALL motion control is pretty shoddy, and I'm not buying either the Kinect or the Move. I will say that the Kinect has better future applications (such as a hand based computer interface device), and I will say that Kinect is probably the more technically impressive device. But unless you're into the "family-fun" games like Wii-Sport of Kinectimals (and most of us here are not), then it's useless. With the Move, hell, what's the point? I never had any problem playing heavy rain before the Move, and I can't see how waving my arms about will make it any better.
With Move, you can't map the body and the inputs are limited to what you do with your arms. This could allow PS3+Move games to have a much more normal feel, and a tighter focus. Sure, you'll only be swinging swords or aiming guns, but you could also move the character like you would in a regular game, and perform actions that can't be captured with any motion device (like taking cover, or traversing complex terrain). With Move, the controller also stays in your hand, so you don't have to forego it or pick it up and put it down regularly.
But then again, the stuff you can do with move can be done with the two analog sticks. I never had a problem with aiming guns or positioning swords in PS3 games before, and I don't want a bunch of "games" (Glorified Tech-Demos) in which you have to do the same thing over and over again.
I say ALL motion control is pretty shoddy, and I'm not buying either the Kinect or the Move. I will say that the Kinect has better future applications (such as a hand based computer interface device), and I will say that Kinect is probably the more technically impressive device. But unless you're into the "family-fun" games like Wii-Sport of Kinectimals (and most of us here are not), then it's useless. With the Move, hell, what's the point? I never had any problem playing heavy rain before the Move, and I can't see how waving my arms about will make it any better.
Funny thing is the Move's batteries are built in. So, (unless they really are removable) if the batteries fail, dead remove).Internet Kraken said:
Anyway, with the wiimote, you can just BUY rechargeable batteries (2 sets for each wiimote, then one can charge while you,play) or one of those rechargeable packs.
Of course it sees black. MS aren't stupid and if Kinect were really unable to see black poeple, then do you think that there'd be only such a minute disturbance in the Force? It can see black people because they have warm blood, like all humans who are alive. From what MS have released about the hardware, the camera doesn't pull people out of video (like the Eyetoy does), so colour interferance shouldn't happen.Akalistos said:On the MOVE side, Kenect don't see black. It's not a joke, i saw a E3 coverage. Here, I'll post the link down below. Also, when did button became a liability to console? Didn't you play game before the WII? Anyways, I'll pick the Six-Axis controller before any of them any day.Volafortis said:So, Sony released a chart, pitting Move against the Wii and Kinect--
The funny thing is, while the chart shows it clearly beating the Wii, it only has 2 more "Yes"'s than Kinect. What's funnier is that, the two extra "No"'s on Kinect, are actually selling points for Kinect; they aren't missing features.
The two are: "Buttons" and "Rechargeable Batteries"
Kinect has always sold itself as a controller-less piece of hardware that plugs into the 360. As in, not needing batteries. Also, being controller-less, it obviously won't have buttons. Also, Kinect WILL allow 360 controller support, so technically, you have buttons (Although, with that same technicality, you do now need batteries)
Also, in the feedback it mentions "color-changing sphere". Really? They traded audio feedback for that?
Source: Destructoid [http://www.destructoid.com/sony-counts-the-ways-in-which-move-beats-kinect-wii-179505.phtml]
http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/joe-play-kinect/#more-7409
Fuck! It's become self aware! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!Xzi said:It's staring at me...judging.MercurySteam said:Looks black to me:poiumty said:
Make it stop!
Congrats Microsoft, you just began Judgement Day.
That's like saying that newest cars aren't doing anything that vintage cars haven't already done before. It's clear that Kinect is doing a lot that the Eyetoy hasn't done before. For starters, it doesn't even work the same way and is a much more soophisticated and elegant solution, hardware wise. Sure you can pull up some youtube videos of the Eyetoy being 'exactly like' Kintect, but you'd have to be aware of the obvious fallacy in saying that. Kinect is a progression from what cameras in the past have done and naturally shares in many aspects, but just like that Lexus and that vintage car, what's under the hood is a different story. To write off Kinect as an Eyetoy clone is dismissive to an incredibly narrowminded degree. Really, none of the consoles today are doing anything that 'hasn't been done before', and nor are any of the modern control pads. See what I'm saying.Mazty said:
And frankly, I'm worried about the use of "gimmicks" in games. Like with Red-Steel 1 for the Wii, I'm sure you will have a multitude of games coming out for both the 360 and PS3 which will focus solely on waving around like an idiot. When you make a game entirely around just one gimmick, that gimmick grows very old very fast.
Haha, I was concerned at first then I noticed that the only things Kinect lacked were batteries, and buttons. Thats ironic. I would argue that Kinect could have buttons, like with Ironman you touch your chest to do something, or grab your hip to grab your gun/sword/laser.
The funniest thing for me are the Playstation 3 commercials. They're just awful. The one about the chick who writes to Sony saying how her husband won't connect to online and then she says he hates candles too... oh God that was bad.
Also, I love at the end of those commercials when it says "It Only Does Everything", because in the back of my mind, I whisper "Except play PS2 games..."
That chart is pretty funny though. Obviously Sony doesn't get the concept of making your competition look bad.
Also, I love at the end of those commercials when it says "It Only Does Everything", because in the back of my mind, I whisper "Except play PS2 games..."
That chart is pretty funny though. Obviously Sony doesn't get the concept of making your competition look bad.
See the link, doofus. It's isn't about black people but the color black, and it's one of microsoft employee that said it. Pay attention before responding.UberNoodle said:Of course it sees black. MS aren't stupid and if Kinect were really unable to see black poeple, then do you think that there'd be only such a minute disturbance in the Force? It can see black people because they have warm blood, like all humans who are alive. From what MS have released about the hardware, the camera doesn't pull people out of video (like the Eyetoy does), so colour interferance shouldn't happen.Akalistos said:On the MOVE side, Kenect don't see black. It's not a joke, i saw a E3 coverage. Here, I'll post the link down below. Also, when did button became a liability to console? Didn't you play game before the WII? Anyways, I'll pick the Six-Axis controller before any of them any day.Volafortis said:So, Sony released a chart, pitting Move against the Wii and Kinect--
The funny thing is, while the chart shows it clearly beating the Wii, it only has 2 more "Yes"'s than Kinect. What's funnier is that, the two extra "No"'s on Kinect, are actually selling points for Kinect; they aren't missing features.
The two are: "Buttons" and "Rechargeable Batteries"
Kinect has always sold itself as a controller-less piece of hardware that plugs into the 360. As in, not needing batteries. Also, being controller-less, it obviously won't have buttons. Also, Kinect WILL allow 360 controller support, so technically, you have buttons (Although, with that same technicality, you do now need batteries)
Also, in the feedback it mentions "color-changing sphere". Really? They traded audio feedback for that?
Source: Destructoid [http://www.destructoid.com/sony-counts-the-ways-in-which-move-beats-kinect-wii-179505.phtml]
http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/joe-play-kinect/#more-7409
