Oh, Sony, this is just too funny.

[Danzaivar]

Well it wasn't a strawman as saying "This is our spin" surely was implying Kinetic was somehow original as opposed to Move which is just a "better version of the Wii". Unless I've gone wrong somewhere....?

I'm not a fan of Move, I think that all the motion controllers will suck, but Move will most likely be the best. Why? It's the most versatile. What would Move be good for? Well anything that is good for motion controllers....which I have no idea as frankly with no feedback, all the controllers are a little shit, with the wii being extra shit for the complete lack of horsepower in the console. Anything that Kinetic can do, surely Move can do, and probably better. Same with Wii games. The real problem is there are no games which are made better with motion controls, or can only be done exclusively with motion controls. Until motion controllers have some kind of feedback so I can feel recoil and so on, they're all just a gimmick in my eyes.

I just meant that Kinect is tracking you, rather than a controller. It's different to how the Wii does things whereas the Move just seems to be copying the Wii (As a first impression, I'd wager the general public will see it like that too). Kinect is just a fancy eye-toy, but that's not a market competitor anymore. The wii is.

The thing about the alternatives is I can't see where the PS3 one comes in. The Wii is out, loads of people have it, it's got Sports/Resort and Wii Fit. There's a few other games but those are the big money makers which tend to sell Wii's.

Kinect has full body tracking so it can do games which really get people active that the Wii can't cover, I reckon it's basically gonna become the 'Dance game' peripheral. PS1 dance mats sold a LOT of PS1's to people who didn't game before and I reckon Kinect will do it again. If anything will kill it, it's going to be that it can only properly track two people at once. Which is a bloody stupid limitation but if they can sort that then I reckon it'll be bigger than chickenpox.

Move has the graphics, but it's just retreading the Wii. Kinda implies it would win amongst the 'proper' gamers, since casuals don't tend to care about graphics so they'll be happy with the Wii. Except as this forums shows (And you allude to yourself) most proper gamers don't give a damn about motion controls. At the end of the day it will come down to 'what sells', and it just seems Move will be hit by 'whats the point of this?'. Especially for the cost.

 

[JEBWrench]

FEATURES | Sony | Microsoft
Buttons | Yes | No
Batteries | Yes | No
Phallic Object | Yes | No
Holding it like a stick | Yes | No
SHINY COLORED BALL | Yes | No
Actual controller | Yes | No
It's black | Yes | No
Requires touching | Yes | No
Rips off the Wiimote | Yes | No
Made by SONY | Yes | No

As we can all clearly see, the Move is the ultimately superior controller by a huge degree.

That's it. I'm SOLD. Shiny things, bitches!

 

[slipknot4]

I don't get it, i thought people hated motion controllers in general...

 

[The Warden]

This shit is making me nauseous, one minute it's Fuck Natal, then Natal is awesome, then back to fuck it.
It dun make sense.

This doesn't say fuck it, a lack of buttons and needing to recharge batteries makes it good, no?

No, but over a series of time people keep doing that here, not just in this thread.

 

[GeneticallyModifiedDucks]

You can use the controller while playing with Natal? I can see that being a bit confusing at times, also awkward

I think the intent is to use mostly voice-commands and facial expressions while playing with the controller, rather than attempt to use motion-controls and a standard controller at the same time.

Motion-controls somewhat interest me for the sole reason that they're a unique use for consoles. I can do everything else with my PC.

That being said, I find Kinect to be the most tempting of them all, because it changes a lot more as far as the way you interact with games than the other two do. Sony trying to prove that they have the best peripheral between the three is laughable, especially since it's simply a more accurate Wiimote.

I think kinect is being released on PC too, not sure how well it'll be supported but modders will be modders.

No, it's not. And good thing too. The PC gaming master race needs no motion control gimmicks.

 

[JEBWrench]

No, it's not. And good thing too. The PC gaming master race needs no motion control gimmicks.

Yeah, why does the PC need some kind of device to move your hand and poin... Dammit.

 

[Alon Shechter]

SHINY COLORED BALL | Yes | No

PLAYSTATION MOVE HERE I COMEZ!

 

[Geekmaster]

MS released their own chart and not having buttons certainly is'nt a feature if you ask me.

 

[Lucane]

It's black | Yes | No

As we can all clearly see, the Move is the ultimately superior controller by a huge degree.

Sorry to Nic-pick but Na... er Kinect is Black as well.

To quote Penny Arcade [http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/903426984_Tg2it-L.jpg]:

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN

Since always I'd wager.

 

[imnot]

i think kinect looks the best out of all of them but i proberly won't buy it until its a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

[Danzaivar]

You can use the controller while playing with Natal? I can see that being a bit confusing at times, also awkward

I think the intent is to use mostly voice-commands and facial expressions while playing with the controller, rather than attempt to use motion-controls and a standard controller at the same time.

Motion-controls somewhat interest me for the sole reason that they're a unique use for consoles. I can do everything else with my PC.

That being said, I find Kinect to be the most tempting of them all, because it changes a lot more as far as the way you interact with games than the other two do. Sony trying to prove that they have the best peripheral between the three is laughable, especially since it's simply a more accurate Wiimote.

I think kinect is being released on PC too, not sure how well it'll be supported but modders will be modders.

No, it's not. And good thing too. The PC gaming master race needs no motion control gimmicks.

You say that, but for indie game developers if the software was available it could work as a VERY cheap motion capture device for games. Hooray for fluid animations!

 

[Your Nightmare]

Do people actually want Kinect...?

 

[linkzeldi]

It's hard to hate on sony. . . I mean they are trying to coin their motion controls as an HD wii. Yet before I could complain, they anounced a sly fox, ratchet and clank, Jak and Daxter crossover game for the move. Those magnificent bastards.

 

[Macgyvercas]

I don't like motion controls, but if I had to get one, it would probably be Move. Simply because it was advertised by Kevin Butler, and Kevin Butler is awesome.

 

[Pearwood]

I don't get why we have to compare them. People won't choose based on which is better really, they'll choose based on either which console they own/prefer or which is cheaper. I'd get PS Move even if Kinect was superior in every way cause it's like a third the price and I don't own a 360...

 

[Akalistos]

So, Sony released a chart, pitting Move against the Wii and Kinect--

Spoiler: The chart

The funny thing is, while the chart shows it clearly beating the Wii, it only has 2 more "Yes"'s than Kinect. What's funnier is that, the two extra "No"'s on Kinect, are actually selling points for Kinect; they aren't missing features.

The two are: "Buttons" and "Rechargeable Batteries"
Kinect has always sold itself as a controller-less piece of hardware that plugs into the 360. As in, not needing batteries. Also, being controller-less, it obviously won't have buttons. Also, Kinect WILL allow 360 controller support, so technically, you have buttons (Although, with that same technicality, you do now need batteries)

Also, in the feedback it mentions "color-changing sphere". Really? They traded audio feedback for that?

Source: Destructoid [http://www.destructoid.com/sony-counts-the-ways-in-which-move-beats-kinect-wii-179505.phtml]

On the MOVE side, Kenect don't see black. It's not a joke, i saw a E3 coverage. Here, I'll post the link down below. Also, when did button became a liability to console? Didn't you play game before the WII? Anyways, I'll pick the Six-Axis controller before any of them any day.

Spoiler: link

http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/joe-play-kinect/#more-7409

 

[moose_man]

yeah, i got addicted to wii sports so i bought the wii, but having played Arc Rise Fantasia has reminded me that hardcore needs to be played with a controller, and that motion controls wont work until virtual reality.