One of my friend just died and someone just said this.

[valkeminator]

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT AN APRIL FOOL'S JOKE. THIS IS FOR REAL

Guys, one of my friend just died on 29th March, 3 days ago. You guys can read the translated news down in the spoiler here. This should explain most of the things.

Spoiler

TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta -Amanda Dewi Setiawan, 15 years old, student at IPEKA International Christian school, was murdered while waiting for her mother to pick her up after school yesterday afternoon. "Amanda is usually picked up by her mother (Endang Ningsih) after school everyday," said IPEKA International Christian School Deputy Principal Kristhianto Nathanael Kainama this afternoon.

It turns out the year 12 student was not waiting for her mother's arrival in front of the school with her friends. Instead, she went out of the school grounds and walked to the neighbourhood behind the school. "That was when somebody stabbed her," said Kristhianto.

The murderer is still unknown. Amanda was accidentally found lying at the side of the road by Mamat, one of the school carpool drivers. "When our driver was on the way to school, he found Amanda lying at the side of the road, then she was brought to school," he said.

This testimony, however, contradicts a pre-existing piece of information, which states that the driver who found her was deliberately looking for Amanda who wasn't coming home. "Amanda was never part of the school carpool, she was usually picked up by her own mother," he explained.

When her body was found, Amanda was already unconscious. Her stomach had a stab wound in it. "We immediately took her to Siloam Hospital but they could not save her," he added. Amanda's body is currently kept at Darmais Funeral Home, Slipi, West Jakarta. Hundreds of people including Amanda's family, schoolmates and teachers fill the room up to the space outside it.

AGUNG SEDAYU (translated by N.A.L, from http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/kriminal/2011/03/30/brk,20110330-323885,id.html)

Now Thing is, the next day after she was killed (or murdered I should say...) 30th March, it was her 16th birthday, and some people are stupid enough to post on her facebook wall in this way:

Mandaaa happy birthday !!!! He's prepared you a perfect surprise! Way more better than any one of us could provide! I already said from yesterday we wanna help u with malvin, but you said u dont want to. If only you said so I'd help you setr up with malvin . Anyway Im sure now u can see him all the time from up there eh? Hahah I'm also sleeping next to him tonight so ... Dont be jealous. Have fun up there with god.

heyy, how is it up there? How're you? Don't be so selfish please, tell us how have you been We all miss you :'(

This is just one out of several other people who says to have fun in heaven, and that god has prepared her a "Better" birthday party surprise...

All I can say is Facepalm, humanity. Mind you, since they found her body lying down in the road in a NEIGHBOURHOOD, in front of a PLACE OF WORSHIP with guards patrolling (yeah right), you can probably assume she bled to death after being stabbed. Made worse that EVERYONE JUST LOOKED THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!

Also, when one of the school bus drivers found her body, people said they were all just WATCHING AROUND HER. My god... if its true then... wow. Just, Wow. Way to go...

So, what do you guys think about this guy ? Do you think its appropriate to say that god's perfect surprise is the same as getting murdered? Tell me what you guys think I should respond or react to this.

I suppose some would not really care, but at least give me an opinion, any would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

[bdcjacko]

Guys, one of my friend just died on 29th March, 3 days ago. You guys can read the translated news down in the spoiler here. This should explain most of the things.

Spoiler

TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta -Amanda Dewi Setiawan, 15 years old, student at IPEKA International Christian school, was murdered while waiting for her mother to pick her up after school yesterday afternoon. "Amanda is usually picked up by her mother (Endang Ningsih) after school everyday," said IPEKA International Christian School Deputy Principal Kristhianto Nathanael Kainama this afternoon.

It turns out the year 12 student was not waiting for her mother's arrival in front of the school with her friends. Instead, she went out of the school grounds and walked to the neighbourhood behind the school. "That was when somebody stabbed her," said Kristhianto.

The murderer is still unknown. Amanda was accidentally found lying at the side of the road by Mamat, one of the school carpool drivers. "When our driver was on the way to school, he found Amanda lying at the side of the road, then she was brought to school," he said.

This testimony, however, contradicts a pre-existing piece of information, which states that the driver who found her was deliberately looking for Amanda who wasn't coming home. "Amanda was never part of the school carpool, she was usually picked up by her own mother," he explained.

When her body was found, Amanda was already unconscious. Her stomach had a stab wound in it. "We immediately took her to Siloam Hospital but they could not save her," he added. Amanda's body is currently kept at Darmais Funeral Home, Slipi, West Jakarta. Hundreds of people including Amanda's family, schoolmates and teachers fill the room up to the space outside it.

AGUNG SEDAYU (translated by N.A. Lay, from http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/kriminal/2011/03/30/brk,20110330-323885,id.html)

Now Thing is, the next day after she was killed (or murdered I should say...) 30th March, it was her 16th birthday, and some people are stupid enough to post on her facebook wall in this way:

Mandaaa happy birthday !!!! He's prepared you a perfect surprise! Way more better than any one of us could provide! I already said from yesterday we wanna help u with malvin, but you said u dont want to. If only you said so I'd help you setr up with malvin . Anyway Im sure now u can see him all the time from up there eh? Hahah I'm also sleeping next to him tonight so ... Dont be jealous. Have fun up there with god.

This is just one out of several other people who says to have fun in heaven, and that god has prepared her a "Better" birthday party surprise...

All I can say is Facepalm, humanity. Mind you, since they found her body lying down in the road in a NEIGHBOURHOOD, in front of a PLACE OF WORSHIP with guards patrolling (yeah right), you can probably assume she bled to death after being stabbed.

So, what do you guys think about this guy ? Do you think its appropriate to say that god's perfect surprise is the same as getting murdered? Tell me what you guys think I should respond or react to this.

Speaking as a christian, yes that is fine to say. I have seen the same sort of things when a girl I know died 3 days before her birthday and because she was catholic was buried on her birthday. There were all sorts of posts on her facebook from people about how she was having a heavenly birthday and stuff like that. People grieve differently.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I'm not sure being murdered is a fun birthday treat, so this guy is a fucking pile of shit.
I'm sorry for you, your friend, her friends and family.

I hope someone catches the bastard that did this.

 

[Cheesus333]

I don't think it's exactly wrong to say it. But I do think he's being a massively insensitive ****. The best thing to do is offer sympathies to the girl's family and leave it there.

 

[lacktheknack]

Sentiments: Good.

Tact: INTENSE FAILURE.

 

[valkeminator]

I'm not sure being murdered is a fun birthday treat, so this guy is a fucking pile of shit.
I'm sorry for you, your friend, her friends and family.

I hope someone catches the bastard that did this.

I do hope they do ... Sadly even the police said "Oh we have not found the motives yet". Well, its murder anyways right? besides she doesnt have any of her stuff when they found her body. *sigh* corrupt officials...

I suppose some would not really care, but at least give me an opinion, any would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

This was.. depressing to read.
As bdcjacko said, everyone grieves differently and I'd say that that facebook poster were probably crying his eyes out since from the looks of it, they seemed to be friends. No?

Don't worry about it.

I hope they are... Otherwise this is just completely disrespectful. Oh by the way, I heard the FB poster bullied the victim at school. As far as I know he did last year... I dunno about this year unfortunately, since I have not heard much since. Problem is lots of people in her facebook who just expressed RIP just so they look nice/good/caring/etc... or they could even be doing it just because its the thing that's happening now sadly...

Thanks for the commentary guys, keep them coming please.

 

[[.redacted]]

How can this be wrong?
They obviously care about her, and think who they're going to be offending: is it you?

If you thought the answer was 'yes', you're an egotistical asshole - they're her friends and not yours.

She isn't going to be offender, no matter how you look at it, and neither are her friends if they realise that they're just trying to get through it by pretending she's in a better place.

There is nothing wrong with this, so don't jump on the bandwagon.

 

[flare09]

Stop being a pussy people grieve in weird ways let it go.

I agree.

I don't really see why everyone has to do the whole five stages thing and can't grief some other way. You'll never know if they were being serious or just jacking around though.

 

[bdcjacko]

I'm not sure being murdered is a fun birthday treat, so this guy is a fucking pile of shit.
I'm sorry for you, your friend, her friends and family.

I hope someone catches the bastard that did this.

I do hope they do ... Sadly even the police said "Oh we have not found the motives yet". Well, its murder anyways right? besides she doesnt have any of her stuff when they found her body. *sigh* corrupt officials...

I suppose some would not really care, but at least give me an opinion, any would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

This was.. depressing to read.
As bdcjacko said, everyone grieves differently and I'd say that that facebook poster were probably crying his eyes out since from the looks of it, they seemed to be friends. No?

Don't worry about it.

I hope they are... Otherwise this is just completely disrespectful. Oh by the way, I heard the FB poster bullied the victim at school. As far as I know he did last year... I dunno about this year unfortunately, since I have not heard much since. Problem is lots of people in her facebook who just expressed RIP just so they look nice/good/caring/etc... or they could even be doing it just because its the thing that's happening now sadly...

Thanks for the commentary guys, keep them coming please.

You heard they bullied? You don't know for a fact, you just heard? Also, why are you getting bent out of shape because people post r.i.p. on her facebook wall? Do you get mad when people post happy birthday on other people's wall because it is the thing to do?

 

[Gigano]

Well, literalist Christianity doesn't really mix too well with a more secular world view, so it's only to be expected that there'll be utterly reprehensible failures to respect the gravity of the situation on their part.

I suppose they must live in perpetual hope of being murdered themselves; or be massive hypocrites.

 

[MikeOfThunder]

I wouldnt write that, but i can accept why people have done. Like having a laugh with you friend (up in heaven) I can understand. I mean it would make me feel better if to have a giggle at something that i know they would as well...

If that makes any sense. Anyway I do hope your not to upset but i can understand why you might find these comments offensive or out-of-place... but I dont think they mean any harm by it.

 

[valkeminator]

You heard they bullied? You don't know for a fact, you just heard? Also, why are you getting bent out of shape because people post r.i.p. on her facebook wall? Do you get mad when people post happy birthday on other people's wall because it is the thing to do?

Um, that's not exactly the point... I'll explain:

The victim was a close friend of my sister, I just knew her and I met her on some occasions. At least we did talked a bit in the past. According to my sister, in the past years she did got picked on by that guy, therefore it is a fact, as I said "as I know he did last year..." since what she told me was based on her experience last year. This year she's not in the same school anymore, therefore Im just saying I don't know how are they now, whether is she still being bullied or not. Then again, according to her, the guy is still like that.

Posting R.I.P and showing condolences on facebook is a perfectly fine thing to do, so as with happy birthdays. Thing is, do you consider it to be okay if say someone said it in the way like "Have fun with Jesus up there" or "He's [God] prepared a bigger surprise for you" ?

Replying to how some people disagree with me, that is perfectly fine as well, considering we are on the computer anyway, and we do not know for sure.

Just remember, some of these people do grief on a note so they look better to everyone else.
i.e. being pretentious.

 

[KiKiweaky]

Either he believes she's going to be alot better off while she's dead or else he's just a complete asshat.... not really sure what to make of it tbh.

Do you know whoever posted it?

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Sentiments: Good.

Tact: INTENSE FAILURE.

That's pretty much where I was gonna go with that.

 

[valkeminator]

Either he believes she's going to be alot better off while she's dead or else he's just a complete asshat.... not really sure what to make of it tbh.

Do you know whoever posted it?

Sure do, I have his facebook link even, but do you mean like as in who is this poster to the victim? If it is the case they're classmates.

 

[bdcjacko]

You heard they bullied? You don't know for a fact, you just heard? Also, why are you getting bent out of shape because people post r.i.p. on her facebook wall? Do you get mad when people post happy birthday on other people's wall because it is the thing to do?

Um, that's not exactly the point... I'll explain:

The victim was a close friend of my sister, I just knew her and I met her on some occasions. At least we did talked a bit in the past. According to my sister, in the past years she did got picked on by that guy, therefore it is a fact, as I said "as I know he did last year..." since what she told me was based on her experience last year. This year she's not in the same school anymore, therefore Im just saying I don't know how are they now, whether is she still being bullied or not. Then again, according to her, the guy is still like that.

Posting R.I.P and showing condolences on facebook is a perfectly fine thing to do, so as with happy birthdays. Thing is, do you consider it to be okay if say someone said it in the way like "Have fun with Jesus up there" or "He's [God] prepared a bigger surprise for you" ?

Replying to how some people disagree with me, that is perfectly fine as well, considering we are on the computer anyway, and we do not know for sure.

Just remember, some of these people do grief on a note so they look better to everyone else.
i.e. being pretentious.

I see what you are saying, but you seem to be implying that since she was your friend's sister, you have some sort of special contention and other people shouldn't be allowed to grieve, post condolences or if they do they are being pretentious. I'm going out on a limb here, and even if she was bullied by the other person, some how I don't think the bully wanted her dead. Probably feels bad about bullying and post something they thought was appropriate because school age kids usually don't have a lot of experience with death (hopefully).

Basically, I understand you are grieving, but calm down and don't worry about how other people are handling it.

 

[KiKiweaky]

Either he believes she's going to be alot better off while she's dead or else he's just a complete asshat.... not really sure what to make of it tbh.

Do you know whoever posted it?

Sure do, I have his facebook link even, but do you mean like as in who is this poster to the victim? If it is the case they're classmates.

Is he good friends with her or what, I take it from the school name its a religous school? He either believes what he's been told and thinks she's better off or he's just used his faith to hide a nasty insult. You know him better what do you think?