Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[-Dragmire-]

I think it's completely reasonable for people to be celebrating. However, I don't see it as a celebration of a persons death as much as a celebration of relief. Bin Laden, had become a representation of fear and uncertainty so his death meant more than 'a bad man died'.

Think of it this way, a serial killer goes from house to house murdering people in broad daylight. Upon finishing his spree, he make a video to tell the world what he's done and when you call the police to arrest him, he disappears leaving a giant broken community sad and frustrated that he did so much damage without answering for it. The resentment from tragedy with no closer does not go away. If he's caught/killed 20 years later, damn right people are going to celebrate.

Also, I'm pretty sure people celebrated when Hitler died and no one judged them for it.

 

[Sansha]

He celebrated his success of 9/11.

The deaths of thousands of people.

Fuck him. Chain his corpse up across Time Square and have a week-long party under his rotting effigy. The fact that people are still partying outside the White House and at Ground Zero is just fantastic. Someone said this is the VJ day of the our generation and frankly I agree.

Some people just deserve the absolute worst.

 

[JAWZxZ]

It does annoy me how she said these parties are akin to the 9/11 celebrations. They're celebrating the death of a monster and a handful of people, not the death of thousands.

 

[Sansha]

It does annoy me how she said these parties are akin to the 9/11 celebrations. They're celebrating the death of a monster and a handful of people, not the death of thousands.

The difference being that none of the dead at 9/11 did anything to deserve their fates, nor did their surviving families do anything to deserve what they went through.

Why should we show mercy and restraint?

When WWII ended there where parties in the streets because the boys were coming home and everyone wasn't going to be bombed any more. This current situation isn't like that because back then, they weren't celebrating the death of Hitler but the start of peace.

When there's peace over all this, I'll be out celebrating peace. May that day soon come.

I agree about peace, because that's what we're all pursuing, but Al-Qaeda has been shown that not only will retribution come - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it WILL come - but we're totally in support of chasing every last one of them down, no matter the cost.

People say that the time and cost this has all taken hasn't been worth it. I say it has, if only for the psychological blow to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda that we'll never, ever stop hunting them.

 

[jboking]

Celebrating the deaths of thousands of innocents is not the same as celebrating the death of one mass murderer. End of fucking story.

Hey, whatever makes you feel good about yourself. I'm sure Osama himself had a very similar mindset.

Probably not, actually. He hated people because they were either: A)Westerners or B)Not Muslims. He was a terrorist and a religious zelot all wrapped into one. He hated people for simply being born somehwere or not being a part of his religion. He then orchestrated the murder of thousands of them and likely celebrated the death of thousands of innocent westerners. He killed people who did nothing to him. People celebrating his death are celebrating because he was a mass murderer and now he is gone. Not because he was a muslim. Not because he was from the East.

Mindset seems pretty damn different.

 

[Silentwindofdoom]

Someone said this is the VJ day of the our generation and frankly I agree.

Yeah, no. I don't see how you compare the end of a war that killed 60 million people, 500 thousand of which were Americans to the death of a "mastermind" of an organisation that is still alive and kicking which was responsible for 4000 or so american deaths.

 

[Astalano]

Interesting to see how animalistic and biased people can be when blinded by propaganda and when it is socially acceptable to do so.

Thousands of innocent people have died in the Middle East due to Western "liberators" and "seekers of justice".

Okay, many people died in the Twin Towers. Mourn for your loved ones, move on. If you look at the scale of how many US soldiers and civilians have died and then look at the absolute devastation in the Middle East, you have absolutely no leg to stand on.

Yes, Muslims celebrating 9/11 were in the wrong. However, Americans are also in the wrong for celebrating the death of a human being. Even Hitler was not the black and white picture that Western propaganda portrays him to be and there are many historians who claim that he was barely involved in the murder of the Jews, but rather it was the exuberant "little Hitlers" following "The Will of the Fuhrer" who commited most of the attrocities. The same can be said of Osama, not including the fact that he was financed initially by the US.

So good job guys. You cleaned up your own mess.

Wake up. The number of attrocities commited against the Middle East by Western powers, including and especially the US and the UK far outnumber the attrocities commited by the Middle East.

Each side has their own point of view, but what separates humans from being the animalistic apes repeating barbaric history and truely civilized humans that Western powers would like to persuade its people that they are part of is a clear cut morality.

No events are ever anything other than gray, but having an appreciation for human life, a view of the big picture, sympathy for those less fortunate and less civilized and a willingness to help is what makes you truely cultured, truely mature and civilized.

Anyone celebrating should know than no cesspool in the world can hold you and all your hypocrisy conveys is that you are exactly the same as those "animals" living over in the Middle East.

Events don't end here. Terrorist attacks may increase. The Pakistan government may be offended by the spying and torture in their country, breaking down relations.

There is a time for war, a time to defend yourself. Now that Osama is dead, Americans have to step up and help the countries they destroyed.

Oh wait though...America spent all its money fighting this long war and I can bet that a major proposal to help these countries will be turned down by the American government and the American people will largely sit blissfully ignorant and uncaring once again.

 

[Projo]

Osama wasn't even a hero by Muslim standards. al Qaeda was a hateful organization that wasn't just against America, but any Muslim sect that wasn't Sunni. They deserve to have their bigoted names dragged through the mud.

 

[Ghengis John]

Torture, kidnappings, 5 wars are now completely legit in face of 1 terrorist attack.

Listening to Obama talk about how "justice" had been served just made me want to laugh.

There is no justice.

What would have been just in your eyes?

 

[WanderingFool]

How I celebrated? I said "Fuck yeah" and went back to playing Homefront. I think we have the right to be happy the bastard is finally dead, but really there is some overdoing it going on here. Its not New Year's Eve...

 

[El Gostro]

Interesting to see how animalistic and biased people can be when blinded by propaganda and when it is socially acceptable to do so.

Thousands of innocent people have died in the Middle East due to Western "liberators" and "seekers of justice".

Okay, many people died in the Twin Towers. Mourn for your loved ones, move on. If you look at the scale of how many US soldiers and civilians have died and then look at the absolute devastation in the Middle East, you have absolutely no leg to stand on.

Yes, Muslims celebrating 9/11 were in the wrong. However, Americans are also in the wrong for celebrating the death of a human being. Even Hitler was not the black and white picture that Western propaganda portrays him to be and there are many historians who claim that he was barely involved in the murder of the Jews, but rather it was the exuberant "little Hitlers" following "The Will of the Fuhrer" who commited most of the attrocities. The same can be said of Osama, not including the fact that he was financed initially by the US.

So good job guys. You cleaned up your own mess.

Wake up. The number of attrocities commited against the Middle East by Western powers, including and especially the US and the UK far outnumber the attrocities commited by the Middle East.

Each side has their own point of view, but what separates humans from being the animalistic apes repeating barbaric history and truely civilized humans that Western powers would like to persuade its people that they are part of is a clear cut morality.

No events are ever anything other than gray, but having an appreciation for human life, a view of the big picture, sympathy for those less fortunate and less civilized and a willingness to help is what makes you truely cultured, truely mature and civilized.

Anyone celebrating should know than no cesspool in the world can hold you and all your hypocrisy conveys is that you are exactly the same as those "animals" living over in the Middle East.

Events don't end here. Terrorist attacks may increase. The Pakistan government may be offended by the spying and torture in their country, breaking down relations.

There is a time for war, a time to defend yourself. Now that Osama is dead, Americans have to step up and help the countries they destroyed.

Oh wait though...America spent all its money fighting this long war and I can bet that a major proposal to help these countries will be turned down by the American government and the American people will largely sit blissfully ignorant and uncaring once again.

Ah my friend,your refusal to rabidly celebrate the alleged death of the wicked witch and of the east while proclaiming the end of the world's troubles will make you a pariah at best around here...

 

[R4V3NSFAN1976]

How are we just like they who celebrated the death of thousands of people for no reason at all? We celebrate the death of a man who is un-doubt-ably pure evil. Would you call the french or british or really any european country "Disgusting" for celebrating the death of Hitler? Because that is exactly what they did.

 

[Canid117]

Harry Waizer, a survivor of 9/11, told the New York Times that "I just can't find it in me to be glad one more person is dead, even if it is Osama bin Laden."

But then, you saw small-town America's response to the Tsunami.

And I'm sure small-town Iran will be speaking of his assured place in Heaven.

Actually Iran hates Al Qaueda almost as much as we do.

Also is the celebration not understandable? The man was responsible for the first foreign attack on American soil in almost two hundred years and is the mastermind behind the deaths of over three thousand unsuspecting civilians. Sure a perfect person supposed to immediately forgive anyone anywhere ever no matter what they had done but no one is perfect and you guys might want to step off your high horses for a second and think about the positions of those you are so quick to dismiss.

True. I'd certainly celebrate if someone managed to bomb the whitehouse, or the US parliament given all the civilian deaths they are responsible for, even though I'd have no desire to do it myself or to see some poor US suburb get attacked.

A) Can we all jump off the bash America bandwagon please? As I recall my country never clubbed an aging Indian dude because we wanted him to pay extra for salt and we have never intentionally targeted civilians. A vast majority of civilian deaths in the war on terror were caused by terrorist and not coalition troops.

B) The United States has a congress composed of the house of representatives and a Senate. You might want to get your government institutions straight before hoping they get blown to hell.

 

[Astalano]

Ah my friend,your refusal to rabidly celebrate the alleged death of the wicked witch and of the east while proclaiming the end of the world's troubles will make you a pariah at best around here...

I don't understand what you said, but...ok?

 

[Silentwindofdoom]

Torture, kidnappings, 5 wars are now completely legit in face of 1 terrorist attack.

Listening to Obama talk about how "justice" had been served just made me want to laugh.

There is no justice.

What would have been just in your eyes?

Probably not what the guy meant but in my opinion the death of one man in no way compensates for or makes better the loss of 4000 people. Considering how many people died for this man and the "coincidental regime change" in Afghanistan.. A lot more people were killed than was necessary.

 

[Astalano]

How are we just like they who celebrated the death of thousands of people for no reason at all? We celebrate the death of a man who is un-doubt-ably pure evil. Would you call the french or british or really any european country "Disgusting" for celebrating the death of Hitler? Because that is exactly what they did.

Yes.

Also, everyone is a product of their times and of the society and people around them. As civilized human beings even we have to find some good in people like Hitler and understand why he did what he did.

I also suspect that even France and Britain, if they had successful Nazi governments, might have gone the same way as Hitler. Anti-semitism wasn't exactly rare in the West.

Moreover, how about the fact that countries like France, Germany and America pretty much mostly refused to take in Jewish refugees deported from Germany and Austria...

Everyone contributes to the evil in our world in some fashion. Having the decency to refuse to celebrate and look ahead to try to rebuild the world is what makes you a good person.

Celebrating the end of Nazism is different to celebrating the death of Hitler too.

 

[Silentwindofdoom]

A) Can we all jump off the bash America bandwagon please? As I recall my country never clubbed an aging Indian dude because we wanted him to pay extra for salt and we have never intentionally targeted civilians. A vast majority of civilian deaths in the war on terror were caused by terrorist and not coalition troops.

B) The United States has a congress composed of the house of representatives and a Senate. You might want to get your government institutions straight before hoping they get blown to hell.

The united states invaded Afghanistan and Iraq by choice, all the civilian deaths are on the heads of the united states government.

 

[Astalano]

There is a time for war, a time to defend yourself. Now that Osama is dead, Americans have to step up and help the countries they destroyed.
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Those countries were either lawless shitholes or fascist dictatorships to begin with. Democracy changed that for the very slight better.

Well, all America has to do is sit there for another 100 years and rebuild the countries. I can guarantee that will never happen, making America just as much of a "fascist dictotorship" or an equivalent nasty word...