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Baal from Disgaea: HoD.
The final story boss is level 90.
Baal is level 4000.
Yes FOUR THOUSAND.
And he has the best gear in the game.
Also In Disgaea 2 one of the first bosses is level 1200, your supposed to lose but if you win you get auto game-overed as it fucks up the plot.
The final story boss is level 90.
Baal is level 4000.
Yes FOUR THOUSAND.
And he has the best gear in the game.
Also In Disgaea 2 one of the first bosses is level 1200, your supposed to lose but if you win you get auto game-overed as it fucks up the plot.
I would have to say The Ancients in the Diablo II expansion, on normal difficulty they're tough but manageable, on nightmare difficulty they're murderous (I'm yet to beat them on this difficulty) and I'm guessing that hell mode will be something along the lines of 'you're fucked from the word go' (any boss who has a passive ability to negate all physical damage you do to them is just plain harsh).
Most annoying boss would have to be the Giant Worm from Lost Planet, it's fast, tough, has very small weak spots, can one-hit kill you, instantly destroys any VS you're in, sprays snow about and thus obscures your vision while constantly shaking the camera about. On the bright side, it's completely optional so you can just keep running towards the actual boss fight (a British woman in a very feminine looking mech).
Most annoying boss would have to be the Giant Worm from Lost Planet, it's fast, tough, has very small weak spots, can one-hit kill you, instantly destroys any VS you're in, sprays snow about and thus obscures your vision while constantly shaking the camera about. On the bright side, it's completely optional so you can just keep running towards the actual boss fight (a British woman in a very feminine looking mech).
You clearly forgot about Prinny Baal, who's level 6000. That's a pretty large level gap between two fights IMO.The DSM said:
Orphan is hard? I beat it on my first go without a single death. My brother beat it on his first go, and he sucks at RPGs. I suppose he would be hard if you didn't have either Vanille or Hope in your party (They both have Curaja. 2 Curajas heal the party to about 60% of your max HP after that move), but still, he's a pushover.sivlin said:
As for me, I haven't come across a boss fight that is "Impossible", but over powered definitely.
1) Freya - Star Ocean 3. Almost all her moves are insta-kill regardless of how much HP you have (except on easy mode, and possibly normal). You can survive her attacks, but it takes hours to set up character builds, and even then, you can only take one or two attacks.
2) Nyx Avatar - Persona 3. Oh. My. God. Smack down the worst (albeit most epic) last boss fight in all the boss fights I've ever fought. 14 forms (if you include Fool), with each form getting progressively harder and longer to beat (starting with about 5 minutes a form). Sure the fight starts off easy, but as you get further into the battle, your supplies start running low, and her attacks become more devastating.
And then you hit the last form.... EPIC WTF!? Not only does Nyx take half damage from every attack type except for Almighty (non-elemental), she gets basically every high-end spell in the game. She also learns two special attacks - first one gives all reflect-all for 4 turns, you don't need any more details than that. Second is her super attack, Night Queen. It does 500 damage (about 80 - 120% of your character's HP), and then puts everyone in a random status effect. If one of your healers get charmed, they can heal the boss back to max health. Congratulations, you just wasted the last 30 minutes.
Is it wierd that most of the bosses people mentioned here I found to be simply "challenging", rather than "impossible"?
Kessler was an epic super-powered showdown, defeated in 1 life, on hard.
Lu Bu was a war of attrition, but not too bad if you used the right character (Dian Wie will fuck his shit up big time).
Orphan is piss easy, only the first attack on the 2nd form is over-powered. Defeated in 2 lives.
Final boss on Proto... meh, couple of goes to defeat, maybe, probably because I fell in the water. Cannonball is the key to victory here.
Ares can be challenging, but then other times if you get the first few hits in can be beaten within a minute. Depends what he does first.
Elizabeth Greene and Crawmerax are the 2 hardest bosses I've ever faced. Greene because you have like a 4 second window every few minutes with which to attack, after which you MUST retreat because ALL of your health is gone and you then have to fight a bunch of smaller enemies to get it back. And it takes half an hour, easily.
Crawmerax on the other hand, can nearly kill you with a single hit (and I have a shield with nearly twice the cap of most high end shields) and its smaller enemies can charge you with frightening speed and knock you off a cliff at any moment AND nearly kill you in a single hit. The worst bit though is trying to solo him, not because he's any more difficult, but because you just can't hit the weakpoint on his back.
Yeah, those 2 are by far the worst bosses ever.
Kessler was an epic super-powered showdown, defeated in 1 life, on hard.
Lu Bu was a war of attrition, but not too bad if you used the right character (Dian Wie will fuck his shit up big time).
Orphan is piss easy, only the first attack on the 2nd form is over-powered. Defeated in 2 lives.
Final boss on Proto... meh, couple of goes to defeat, maybe, probably because I fell in the water. Cannonball is the key to victory here.
Ares can be challenging, but then other times if you get the first few hits in can be beaten within a minute. Depends what he does first.
Elizabeth Greene and Crawmerax are the 2 hardest bosses I've ever faced. Greene because you have like a 4 second window every few minutes with which to attack, after which you MUST retreat because ALL of your health is gone and you then have to fight a bunch of smaller enemies to get it back. And it takes half an hour, easily.
Crawmerax on the other hand, can nearly kill you with a single hit (and I have a shield with nearly twice the cap of most high end shields) and its smaller enemies can charge you with frightening speed and knock you off a cliff at any moment AND nearly kill you in a single hit. The worst bit though is trying to solo him, not because he's any more difficult, but because you just can't hit the weakpoint on his back.
Yeah, those 2 are by far the worst bosses ever.
I agree I thought he was hard in the 1st one, but I gave up once I realiased I was happy lasting 20 seconds against himRakun Man said:
For me, it would be this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoBIgeNe0wk&feature=related
It's not a battle, but it's almost IMPOSSIBLE!
It's not a battle, but it's almost IMPOSSIBLE!
Crawmerax on solo
So many deaths...
Also the killing floor patriarch on hard/suicidal even with a full team hes a nightmare to kill
So many deaths...
Also the killing floor patriarch on hard/suicidal even with a full team hes a nightmare to kill
In regards to the Disgaea things, it's best to keep in mind that NIS Strat-RPGs are pretty much universally built around exploiting the system (well, really success in most Strat-RPGs is about grinding and exploiting the system) and that they give you every tool you could possibly need to do so. So while Baal and his Prinny form are tough, it's actually not terribly difficult to get a party that can wipe him out before he gets a chance to move. And I find that in the post-game replays, it actually ends up being harder to LOSE some of those forced loss battles than it would be to win them...but then, I tend to think that the NIS games are more parodies of Strat-RPGs than not....which amuses me since they are some of the best...
On topic: I'd like to second the nomination for the Demi-Fiend aka: Hitoshura from Digital Devil Saga part 1 and offer a nomination for most of the fiends and Lucifer in SMT:Nocturne....of course, most of the optional bosses in SMT games LOVE to mop their floors in the player's entrails....and are quite good at it....However, I point out these ones from Nocturne since a "complete" playthrough where you've beaten Lucifer means that every subsequent playthrough has him as as the final boss and the first Fiend boss since it's the only UNAVOIDABLE optional boss, fought early in the game and it's SIGNIFICANTLY harder than any monster you've fought up until that point and for quite some time thereafter.
On topic: I'd like to second the nomination for the Demi-Fiend aka: Hitoshura from Digital Devil Saga part 1 and offer a nomination for most of the fiends and Lucifer in SMT:Nocturne....of course, most of the optional bosses in SMT games LOVE to mop their floors in the player's entrails....and are quite good at it....However, I point out these ones from Nocturne since a "complete" playthrough where you've beaten Lucifer means that every subsequent playthrough has him as as the final boss and the first Fiend boss since it's the only UNAVOIDABLE optional boss, fought early in the game and it's SIGNIFICANTLY harder than any monster you've fought up until that point and for quite some time thereafter.
I remember for the longest time C'thun in World of Warcraft was considered impossible. And when the most hardcore MMO nerds out there think something's hard, then it's *REALLY* hard! Pretty sure of all the bosses in that MMO, he was around longest before getting killed. I never even fought him till looooong after it was considered 'outdated' content, and it was still a damn tough fight despite being vastly more powerful than the fight was balanced for.
Pretty damn cool boss too. It would send random whispers to players saying things like "You Will Die!" and "Your Friends Will Abandon you!". Plus there's the fact it was a giant freaky eyeball that could literally 1 shot 40 people if you weren't careful. You're pretty much only fighting the tiniest aspect of this massive ancient creature, very Lovecraftian.
Probably my favorite boss from any MMO I've ever played actually.
Pretty damn cool boss too. It would send random whispers to players saying things like "You Will Die!" and "Your Friends Will Abandon you!". Plus there's the fact it was a giant freaky eyeball that could literally 1 shot 40 people if you weren't careful. You're pretty much only fighting the tiniest aspect of this massive ancient creature, very Lovecraftian.
Probably my favorite boss from any MMO I've ever played actually.
Riovanes Castle in Final Fantasy Tactics if you're actually at the appropriate level. The Wiegraf/Velius encounter is just brutal, and the follow up fight with Elmdor can be an insta-lose if Rafa decides not to flee after her initial attack (since she isn't allowed to die). Worst part of all? Saving your game after you do the fight outside the castle. I remember watching my brother try the Velius fight for days before finally saying 'enough' and starting a whole new game.
Thankfully FFT was such an awesome game that one minor setback like being well over halfway through the game and getting stuck wasn't going to stop us from playing.
Thankfully FFT was such an awesome game that one minor setback like being well over halfway through the game and getting stuck wasn't going to stop us from playing.
The Sea Serpent in Turok... but Ninja Gaiden bosses tops it all, when I say bosses i mean everyone starting from the 5th level and up
The European version of the last boss in Zone of the Enders 2. In the US version players complained he was too easy so they beefed him up something ridiculous for the European version. After playing for an hour and getting nowhere I decided to just give up and use the "infinite life" cheat from a cheat disc I had. Only I found out halfway through the fight it isn't infinite life, it just reduced damage dealt by a factor of 500. As a result I actually lost the first time through.
@Sojaus
challenging bosses and out right unfair bull**** bosses are two differant things.
An example of challenging is kesslar from infamous and example of 2 is ninja gaisen 2s last level. it has after a very difficult level 2 anger-inducinly difficult bosses which if you die on the secondf one you have to do the third one again which dont drop money and after there is a a shop to just taunt you the a hard small tunnel then 3 anger-inducingly difficult bosses ands if you dieon the third one you have to do the first one again.
and this on easy normal upward is utter bull**** to even take down one normal enemy.
challenging bosses and out right unfair bull**** bosses are two differant things.
An example of challenging is kesslar from infamous and example of 2 is ninja gaisen 2s last level. it has after a very difficult level 2 anger-inducinly difficult bosses which if you die on the secondf one you have to do the third one again which dont drop money and after there is a a shop to just taunt you the a hard small tunnel then 3 anger-inducingly difficult bosses ands if you dieon the third one you have to do the first one again.
and this on easy normal upward is utter bull**** to even take down one normal enemy.
