Over-rated musicians/bands

[TheBigJadowski]

The Beatles, Nirvana and Led Zeppelin to me are over-rated, but that is partially because they are "clique-bands". They are the type of bands that YOU HAVE TO LIKE, whether it's your parents peer-pressuring you or friends. But don't get me wrong, I've listening to many Zeppelin, Beatles and Nirvana songs, and while they are good, they aren't exceptional, but rather, cliche'd.

I don't think they compare well to their contemporaries as far as songwriting, and musicianship goes. I'll definitely take AC/DC, Thin Lizzy, UFO, Uriah Heap over Zeppelin. Bon Scott was definitely a much better vocalist and front man than Robert Plant will ever be, and Thin Lizzy's guitarist had a lot more going on than Page. As far as Beatles, I'll take the Who over them any day. the Beatles, while catchy, tend to be nilly frilly most of the time, while the Who, whom had some pop-rock songs like the Beatles, seemed a lot more versatile. And Nirvana... well, Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam put Nirvana to shame. Jerry Cantrell is an amazing guitarist and backup singer, Layne Staley was such an amazing and versatile vocalist, his vocals could go from mellow, to grudgy to a very primal and powerful scream. I mean, he just puts Kurt Cobain to shame. And I will say, Pearl Jam has a very solid guitarist and vocalist. Very good band for sure.

And about Metallica. I wouldn't say they are over-rated as much as I would rather say Kirk Hammett is over-rated. James Hetfield is a hell of a rhythm guitarist, and he is, in essence, Metallica. However, that being said, Metallica doesn't deserve to go into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame before bands such as KISS, Rush, The Stooges, Def Leppard and such go in. But then again, Blondie was just inducted in the Hall of Fame a few years ago, so that shows you how legit the Hall of Fame really is.

 

[SpAc3man]

Greenday. 3 chord pop gash at its worst.

Green Day. Two words. Get it right. Saying its bad cos of the 3 chord style is like saying Metallica is bad cos it has heavy guitars, its the style of music. Personally I think Green Day is one of the best things that happened to punk since the first wave bands of the '70s. They are best viewed as a politically motivated band that write all of their music because they enjoy music themselves and want to voice their opinion.

Not being a fan I don't get bent out of shape if their name isn't written correctly. It's not that important. It was my opinion and I'm entited to it. To call them punk is to use the word in the loosest sense imaginable in the same way McFly or Busted were "punk". It's pop music.

As for Billy Joe's political motivations... I cringe whenever he starts talking politics. I don't care what some uneducated, mediocre, musician thinks about the state of government. Stick to music for 14 year olds.

Punk is a loose term. It isn't defined by a set of strict rules defining what makes it punk, sure their later work is drifting further and further away from what is classically known as "punk" but then again bands such as The Clash and The Sex Pistols were worlds apart at the same time and they were still both labeled "punk".

Saying that someone's opinion on how their country is run has no value only because they chose not to go to university and instead focus on a career in music is exactly the sort of negative attitude Green Day speaks against.

Green Day's recent surge in popularity is largely due to critical acclaim for their recent work from people who know what they are talking about. You cant deny that

 

[The King of Rock and Roll]

Nirvana, Nickelback, pretty much every alternative rock band. (I'm not an alt fan, sorry.)

For classic rock, The Beatles, Aerosmith, KISS, and Lynard Skynard. (I love Zeppelin however.)

For metal, Nu Metal as whole, Poison and Slayer. (I know they are bothon the opposite ends of the metal spectrum, but just go with it, I'm too tired to go by sub-genres.)

And the entire genres of rap, pop and pop/punk are over rated because most of the music of that variety requires minimal talen to produce, and the music can be made just as easily on computer software. (Sue me, I'm a talent snob.)

For country, I'd hace to say that the overrated groups are the ones that are fronted by California blondes with a mild southern accent. (Other than that, I do like country. I know, I'm a horrible person right?)

 

[Michael826]

metallica aren't overrated, they spearheaded and defined an entire genre along with slayer, anthrax and megadeth. they've sold more records than any other band on earth besides the beatle, including 5 consecutive no. one albums & Master of Puppets remains one of the greatest albums of all time. hmph.
yes i expect backlash.

I really only hate the snobby Metallica fans who hate Megadeth and refuse to listen to Megadeth (Basically everyone of my friends except one who doesn't care about music and another who is open minded to music). One of my friends whenever I say currently Megadeth are ahead of Metallica keeps going "Mustaine said he would do anything to be back in Metallica." But then again it is pointless arguing Mustaine unstable opinions as he doesn't even know what Melodic death metal is. and thinks I mean metalcore.

agreed. i love megadeth, although traditionally a metallica fan, i do love dave mustaine and all he's done for music. to this day symphony of destruction and tornado of souls remain two of my favourite songs. have you heard their new stuff? personally i think it's better than death magnetic, but kudos to metallica for TRYING to return to their roots...

 

[Kerberos101]

U2

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[aruseusx]

metallica aren't overrated, they spearheaded and defined an entire genre along with slayer, anthrax and megadeth. they've sold more records than any other band on earth besides the beatle, including 5 consecutive no. one albums & Master of Puppets remains one of the greatest albums of all time. hmph.
yes i expect backlash.

I really only hate the snobby Metallica fans who hate Megadeth and refuse to listen to Megadeth (Basically everyone of my friends except one who doesn't care about music and another who is open minded to music). One of my friends whenever I say currently Megadeth are ahead of Metallica keeps going "Mustaine said he would do anything to be back in Metallica." But then again it is pointless arguing Mustaine unstable opinions as he doesn't even know what Melodic death metal is. and thinks I mean metalcore.

agreed. i love megadeth, although traditionally a metallica fan, i do love dave mustaine and all he's done for music. to this day symphony of destruction and tornado of souls remain two of my favourite songs. have you heard their new stuff? personally i think it's better than death magnetic, but kudos to metallica for TRYING to return to their roots...

Yeah I get what you are saying and I didn't mind death magnetic but it took metallica a little while to get it through their heads. Oh when playing any shooter put Endgame(I hope the album title isn't a clue to anything in particular) on the stereo.

 

[DannyBoy451]

This is a controvertial one but Nirvana. I don't mean to say that they're bad I'm just saying that they were over-rated. In terms of defining a genre they are very important but there aren't exactly a lot of good Nirvana songs. Maybe there would have been more if Kurt hadn't painted the wall with his brains, who knows.

Linkin Park. I don't think I need to even explain this one do I?

Led Zeppelin. Kind of like Nirvana in that there are people who think they're the best thing to happen to music ever but really they don't have all that many good songs. Good, sure, not great.

I agree that Nirvana are overated, but I blame the millions of angsty teenage fans for talking about them like they shit golden eggs.

As for Led Zeppelin: I get the impression you just havn't listened to them enough, Led Zeppelin IV is one of the best albums ever made...You may have to skip Stairway though...

Skip Stairway!? Excuse my french but you should go die! (I'm not very good at speaking french)

Stairway's a really good song, the first 70 times you hear it.

 

[SmartIdiot]

As much as I sound like a mustaine lover right now : Metallica and the fans of metallica who refuse to give Megadeth a chance. (Seriously give Megadeth an actual chance you will be suprised)

finally someone who agrees with me Metallica are a bunch of sell-outs now 1989 onwards it all went downhill. Megadeth's new album Endgame is better than Death Magnetic

Granted. Metallica is now a corporate organisation that probably gets more attention than it should these days. HOWEVER after the garbage that was St. Anger I think Death Magnetic was a fine album. As for Endgame... well I'll admit I haven't heard it but I will take up your challenge and give it a listen, I'll get back to you both.

 

[bjj hero]

Punk is a loose term. It isn't defined by a set of strict rules defining what makes it punk, sure their later work is drifting further and further away from what is classically known as "punk" but then again bands such as The Clash and The Sex Pistols were worlds apart at the same time and they were still both labeled "punk".

Saying that someone's opinion on how their country is run has no value only because they chose not to go to university and instead focus on a career in music is exactly the sort of negative attitude Green Day speaks against.

You can call anything you want punk. Green Day are as "punk" as Avril Lavigne. It's pop music. He is entitled to an opinion but using his position to waffle on about popularist tripe to an audience is just vain, egotistical, wankery. I have a job where I deal with plenty of "impressionable" people. I don't use it as a campaign platform. I'll be using Jeremy Paxman [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Paxman] for political commentary, not Billy Joe if its the same with you. At least Jeremy knows what he's talking about.

Green Day's recent surge in popularity is largely due to critical acclaim for their recent work from people who know what they are talking about. You cant deny that

People who know what they are talking about, who are they? Are you talking about the music weeklys etc? Rags like Kerrang loved the recent Metallica albums Death Magnetic and St Anger. To me the albums are ok, they are not horrific, but they are hardly the bands best work.

My opinion differs from yours, it doesn't make you wrong, it's a matter of opinion. I'm not stopping you from enjoying Green Day. I just won't be listening to them by choice and feel they are grossly over rated, which is the point of this thread.

I've seen bands I like mentioned as over rated. I don't feel the need to jump to their defence. They are making plenty of money and still in work despite the comments on an internet forum. My enjoyment isn't affected. Just chill a little and enjoy the music you like.

 

[Bernzz]

Pink Floyd

No.

Hang on a sec, I never said I thought they were over-rated, I said I had already seen someone else saying that. I was just saying that although I think Pink Floyd are one of the greatest bands of all time, I wasn't getting angry when someone else thought they were over-rated.

So yeah, I personally don't believe they're over-rated.

 

[Justice Shades]

Oasis. They had the odd reasonable song and everyone acted like they were the next Beatles.

Then of course there's Paul Weller, and all the unwarranted hero-worship he's getting nowadays.

 

[Mister Eff]

Rap music
Metal music
Nirvana
NME-esque indie balls.

I hate metal. AND NIRVANA. I FUCKING HATE NIRVANA.

 

[DTice69]

Greenday. 3 chord pop gash at its worst.

Although I liked old Green Day, I have to agree with you. They just had to get political and f' up their careers...now its "cool" to like them because they don't like Bush. The whole punk genre has also gone downhill since the turn of the century although not as bad as GD. The Beatles were a good band when together but seperately they all lost sense of what it means to make good music, especially Lenon.....so seperately they were all overrated. Lil' Wayne is another person who is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overrated, he doesn't even deserve to be "rated." The Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana are a few more, but I guess the younguns don't really know what real music is so why blame 'em. Being the millionth band to sing a sappy love song that was thought of in three minutes isn't talent. The same goes for rap musicians, we have enough songs about girls in clubs, go back to singin about the streets and pimpin hoes and whatnot, at least those topics were interesting.

Basically anybody who takes cheapshots at corporations from the safety and warmth of their recording studios while playing at corporate sponsored shows and who sit on millions of dollars while selling incredibly overpriced band merchandise is brain dead and needs to rethink their music. Way too many bands do that kind of crap, they are too overrated.