Overrated Movies - Which One Do You Hate the Most?
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While that's true, it doesn't stop the fact that it still had the power to provoke thought for myself and apparently a large audience and that's really all I'm supporting here. Fluke or not, it managed to say a lot more than most films, especially these days in a movie sphere ripe with rehashed concepts and overplayed tropes. It's also not the first time a celebrated work has been shunned by its creator. Sir Alec Guiness hated the character of Obi Wan and thought Star Wars was campy and childish. That's one of the main reasons Obi Wan dies in the second act.MrJohnson said:
Blade Runner. now having said that I feel I should hide...
but allow me to explain as weakly as i am currently able to. I get that Blade Runner is seen as the Top of the Top 15 Sci-Fi films ever in most people's eyes...the other 14 places being filled by the ridiculously numerous alternate cuts.
I get that it's trying to get across this message about humanity and bla bla bla, but my problem is this:
For cinema to make people understand a message, they need to present the message through ENTERTAINING CINEMA. And this is the one thing Blade Runner, in my eyes, lacks. It is boring. It's boring as fuck, it really is. One overly extended fight scene with an increasingly retarded-acting Aryan android, and a random chase scene featuring a woman in lingerie and a transparent coat does not mean you can spend the other 2 and a half hours bombarding us with Harrison Ford looking serious in dark and gritty environments. It doesn't work like that.
Not that I'm saying Ridley Scott doesn't know good films. Alien is an amazing piece of film, and particularly Thelma and Louise is one of my favourite films ever. THAT film manages to tell a message about female ideals and the oppressive male society of the time, while still being good to watch and actually entertaining.
But Blade Runner just falls flat for me, and frankly if someone hadn't told me beforehand "Harrison Ford may or may not be a robot" I wouldn't have ever guessed that they were setting up that unresolved dilemna.
Now onto my other sacrifical lamb: Scarface. Again, not denying it's a legendary film by now, but for me it was dull, followed by swift boredom, then monotony, then a little dash of "meh" to round off the recipe.
The basic premise of: guy with hard-to-understand guy with penchant for the word "fuck" gets rich in selling drugs then goes batshit mental and gets shot to shit, is all well and good. I could get behind that film.
But they just drag it on for fucking ages. By the time he died in a hail of gunfire I was actually fucking cheering cause it meant the shit was finally over and I could go and watch Pan's Labyrinth of something else that's actually interesting.
but allow me to explain as weakly as i am currently able to. I get that Blade Runner is seen as the Top of the Top 15 Sci-Fi films ever in most people's eyes...the other 14 places being filled by the ridiculously numerous alternate cuts.
I get that it's trying to get across this message about humanity and bla bla bla, but my problem is this:
For cinema to make people understand a message, they need to present the message through ENTERTAINING CINEMA. And this is the one thing Blade Runner, in my eyes, lacks. It is boring. It's boring as fuck, it really is. One overly extended fight scene with an increasingly retarded-acting Aryan android, and a random chase scene featuring a woman in lingerie and a transparent coat does not mean you can spend the other 2 and a half hours bombarding us with Harrison Ford looking serious in dark and gritty environments. It doesn't work like that.
Not that I'm saying Ridley Scott doesn't know good films. Alien is an amazing piece of film, and particularly Thelma and Louise is one of my favourite films ever. THAT film manages to tell a message about female ideals and the oppressive male society of the time, while still being good to watch and actually entertaining.
But Blade Runner just falls flat for me, and frankly if someone hadn't told me beforehand "Harrison Ford may or may not be a robot" I wouldn't have ever guessed that they were setting up that unresolved dilemna.
Now onto my other sacrifical lamb: Scarface. Again, not denying it's a legendary film by now, but for me it was dull, followed by swift boredom, then monotony, then a little dash of "meh" to round off the recipe.
The basic premise of: guy with hard-to-understand guy with penchant for the word "fuck" gets rich in selling drugs then goes batshit mental and gets shot to shit, is all well and good. I could get behind that film.
But they just drag it on for fucking ages. By the time he died in a hail of gunfire I was actually fucking cheering cause it meant the shit was finally over and I could go and watch Pan's Labyrinth of something else that's actually interesting.
Yeah, pretty much this. It was pretty enough in 3d to make it noteworthy, but it was hardly the world shattering opus that it was made out to be. Applying actual characterization to the characters other than the very one dimensional character archetypes they occupied immediately tore apart the impact of the story, such as what it was. And most of the foreshadowing in the film was so blatant and so ham handed that I immediately predicted the end of the movie (and knew who the Big Bad would be) practically as soon as they cropped up in the film.JourneyThroughHell said:
Pretty, yes.
Good, no.
Avatar was the best tech demo I've ever seen.
As for the overrated movie I hate the most, The Seventh Seal. It's just, well, stupid. Like real stupid.
As for the overrated movie I hate the most, The Seventh Seal. It's just, well, stupid. Like real stupid.
I hated Paranormal Activity the first time I saw it because I found the characters to be so unlikable that I just didn't give a shit that bad things were happening to them. The second time I watched it, though, I watched it rooting for the demon, that the couple was getting what they deserved, and I thought it was a riot.TheLiham said:But I love watching Paranormal Activity mainly because its so terrible
I don't think I've ever seen a comment on Tarantino that I could agree with more or could have put in better words. Though at very first, I have to admit I liked the Kill Bill movies. Now I can't even imagine sitting through them again. I HATED Inglorious Basterds though, through and through.StriderShinryu said:
Harry Potter movies for me are probably the biggest over-rated. I wouldn't say I "hate" them, but I watched the first 4 and was bored out of my skull. I really tried to give it a shot but it just didn't work.
Avatar is also on my list. Again not hated but I don't get why people think it's so great. Yes, it is pretty, but that's about all it had.
Donnie Darko also bored me out of my mind too. Still not even sure what it was about and I really don't care.
Ok, you got some points there.Moosh50 said:
I thought Bale as Batman was akward and the costume never really jelled with me, but he made a good Bruce. It always has been one has been good in one roll or the other (or in the case of George Clooney, niether) I still think the overall best Batman and Bruce combination was the one from the Batman: TAS by a long shot.
Ledger did win because of his death. I am not saying that as a knock against his outstanding proformance but as a knock against the Hollywood oscar system. Best actor/actress awards generally go to those actors that were "owed" the award. That is why older actors almost always sweep the awards and guys like DiCaprio lose out (even when he was nominated twice) no matter the quality of the actual acting. The academy knew that the backlash if he didn't get the win would lose half their viewers the next year.
JourneyThroughHell said:
yes avatard was such a big let down I heard that it was the best movie made to date from my friends and then i watched it. Thinking WTF?
Movies like Avatar and Twilight, especially due to all the crazy fans.
Also, SuperBad. I'm sorry, but I didn't really get that movie(though the 'McLovin' bit amused me more than it should have).
Also, SuperBad. I'm sorry, but I didn't really get that movie(though the 'McLovin' bit amused me more than it should have).
I second this motion.JourneyThroughHell said:
Everyone was singing about it and saying it was the best thing ever.
I fail to see why. It uses CGI effects like 1000 other movies and the story isn't that well thought out. I think a lot of people just screamed about it because it was the in thing and when one screaming teenage girl opens up about a movie then naturally another 100,000 arent far behind.
Its trends like this that result in social depravities like Twilight (another over hyped piece of trash) and Justin Bieber (random young girls who sing about other girls. Creepy)
Also think I would like to raise the point that Twilight falls into this category.
Underworld did the Vampire Vs Humans thing in greater story telling and its own home grown mythology.
Romeo and Juliet did it better with greater passion and commitment to deep well developed characters.
I still dont understand why the Vampires sparkle, this seems like some arbitary addition to the developme... HAHAH I cant finish saying that in all honesty, there IS no development to the established cannon of Vampire mythology, it just puts a bag over its head and drowns it in a river... of puke.
Neon Genesis. It's not as deep as you think it is and you're not deep or interesting for citing it as your favourite movie of all time, there are plenty of other anime fans out there who think exactly the same as you.
Scott Pilgrim.
No movie in existence has ever, EVER, accurately portrayed a gamers life. This movie 'says' it does it, but all it does is give us references with a few special effects and a storyline that reeks of weird.
It's not even that good. Casshern was better.
No movie in existence has ever, EVER, accurately portrayed a gamers life. This movie 'says' it does it, but all it does is give us references with a few special effects and a storyline that reeks of weird.
It's not even that good. Casshern was better.
Likewise. There was nothing remotely likeable about that film. The story was predictable and boring, as were the characters. I actually found myself rooting for the corporation in the end.JourneyThroughHell said: