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tsb247

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Booze Zombie said:
Most people who work those photograph booths are grade-A perverts, so of course they'd assume that anything with a hint of skin is sexually charged.

Fucking morons.
I take offense.

I'm a photo lab technician, and I'm hardly a pervert. We have to make some tough decisions sometimes, and it is not a job for everyone. I have seen people resign the position because they could not handle the stress, they could not handle the machinery or the chemistry involved, and they could not follow some of the strict regulations that we must adhere to.

We are hardly, "Morons."
 

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aprilmarie said:
oh so, then technically the fifty million plus photos my parents have of me naked as a child in the bath mean that my parents sexually abused me? wtf? this is bullshit it really is. The walmart employee fucking overreacted......
50 million? I think that may count as abuse...

Edit: Assuming it takes 1s for each photo... that would mean you were in the bath for about 38 years. With your parents taking photos continuously.
 

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Fredrick2003 said:
This is why I say the pedophile hysteria is just pointless.

Eventually pedophiles will be accepted and you can hate something else, these things go in cycles.

It wasn't very long ago it was perfectly acceptable to think of black people as lesser beings, now all of a sudden saying such things will shock people.

It wasn't very long ago it was perfectly acceptable to make fun of homosexual people, and point out how their "brains are defective". Nowadays this is not acceptable.

Pedophiles are next, all of a sudden your "kiddy fiddler" jokes will be looked down upon.
Uhhh, dude, pedophiles will *NEVER* be accepted, nor should they. But this is *NOT* pedophilia. Adults sexually lusting after children (not 17 year old girls, but children) is inherently wrong and will never make it into the mainstream. If you ever have children you will understand why the thought of a grown adult looking lasciviously at your 5 year old daughter is the most troubling and enraging thing imaginable.
 

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tsb247 said:
I take offense.

I'm a photo lab technician, and I'm hardly a pervert. We have to make some tough decisions sometimes, and it is not a job for everyone. I have seen people resign the position because they could not handle the stress, they could not handle the machinery or the chemistry involved, and they could not follow some of the strict regulations that we must adhere to.

We are hardly, "Morons."
Okay, how about those particular ones were morons, would that be less offensive?

NoryCaw said:
Uhhh, dude, pedophiles will *NEVER* be accepted, nor should they. But this is *NOT* pedophilia. Adults sexually lusting after children (not 17 year old girls, but children) is inherently wrong and will never make it into the mainstream. If you ever have children you will understand why the thought of a grown adult looking lasciviously at your 5 year old daughter is the most troubling and enraging thing imaginable.
In the middle ages, I do believe there were 10 year old lords getting married and feverishly mating with their wives.

How you treat someone will effect the rate of their mental development, treating children like adults will result in them maturing faster, in mind.
Back in the pre-industrial-era, children and adults were not seperated truly, they were just looked at as people who hadn't gotten tall enough to carry things properly yet.

Not that I condone lusting after pre-teens, but my point was that it was acceptable at points in history and in some cultures.
Of course, how you view almost anything will inveriably be "tainted" with your own bias, this subject is no diffrent.
 

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Fredrick2003 said:
This is why I say the pedophile hysteria is just pointless.

Eventually pedophiles will be accepted and you can hate something else, these things go in cycles.

It wasn't very long ago it was perfectly acceptable to think of black people as lesser beings, now all of a sudden saying such things will shock people.

It wasn't very long ago it was perfectly acceptable to make fun of homosexual people, and point out how their "brains are defective". Nowadays this is not acceptable.

Pedophiles are next, all of a sudden your "kiddy fiddler" jokes will be looked down upon.
I dont know tht you are correct here, but at ny rate these people deserve every cent they sue for.
 

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What the fuck? I have even seen pictures of me and my cousin being on a potty, pretty much right next to us, when we were very, VERY young.

God remembers what the fuck goes on in our heads when we're young.
 

lizards

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because as most people do the walmart employee just went of and started doing shit without thinking
 

tsb247

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ShredHead said:
So what is inherently wrong with paedophiles, it's no more a choice than being gay or being black is, the law preventing you from acting on your sexual desires will just make them stronger so it's inevitable that there will be some Paedophilia in society.
Your argument can also be used to justify cannibalism and serial killers (as mentioned above). The fact remains that pedophilia is wrong, and anyone who attempts to justify it needs to have their head examined. It will never be right, and it will never be accepted - nor will cannibalism or murder.

Charles Manson, Jeffry Dahmer, and BTK had the urge to kill seared into their psyche's. One can also argue that they could not help being what they were. That does not mean they should be accepted by mainstream society.

Pedophilia is indeed WRONG. A young child likely does not understand sexual contact, and the way a child's mind works will not allow it to. To twist one's sexual desires to prey upon the young and innocent will never be right, nor will it ever be accepted in mainstream society. If you honestly believe there is nothing wrong with it, then you need to get some help - FAST.

You need to accept that some things are just wrong - no matter who you try and convince.
 

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If this keeps up doctors will be labeled pedophiles for having to deliver babies nude.
 

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This is one of the many growing problems in society in the US. We are all too busy worrying about what everyone else is doing. Putting our noses into everyone elses business and telling them what is right and wrong. People aren't allowed to think and make judgement calls anymore. So many things are dealt with like they are black or white with no grey in the middle.

I kinda feel bad for Walmart and the Police in this case, because their hands are tied by their dumb policies. My Mom used to work for Walmart and they have a ton of zero tolerance policies. So if by some chance the worker didn't report to their management and management saw the pics, that person is automatically fired. So people get paranoid, any little thing they make sure to tell the boss because god forbid they use their own judgement.

I feel bad for the Police too, my cousin who is a cop in Henderson, NV says something similar. In certain counties, any case of suspected sexual child abuse the child has to be removed from the home. Doesn't matter what the situation is. Also, god forbid the police don't do something and then it does turn out to be one of those cases of abuse. The public would be furious, because everyone would be saying how Walmart provided evidence to the police and it was ignored. It would be a scandel and people would lose their job. So everyone is paranoid.

Only thing to hope for here is that as folks around here see and hear about this, when you get old enough you try to get involved with your community and government and change the damn laws. Most of these laws were passed and enacted by the baby-boomer and following generation.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
tsb247 said:
I take offense.

I'm a photo lab technician, and I'm hardly a pervert. We have to make some tough decisions sometimes, and it is not a job for everyone. I have seen people resign the position because they could not handle the stress, they could not handle the machinery or the chemistry involved, and they could not follow some of the strict regulations that we must adhere to.

We are hardly, "Morons."
Okay, how about those particular ones were morons, would that be less offensive?

NoryCaw said:
Uhhh, dude, pedophiles will *NEVER* be accepted, nor should they. But this is *NOT* pedophilia. Adults sexually lusting after children (not 17 year old girls, but children) is inherently wrong and will never make it into the mainstream. If you ever have children you will understand why the thought of a grown adult looking lasciviously at your 5 year old daughter is the most troubling and enraging thing imaginable.
In the middle ages, I do believe there were 10 year old lords getting married and feverishly mating with their wives.

How you treat someone will effect the rate of their mental development, treating children like adults will result in them maturing faster, in mind.
Back in the pre-industrial-era, children and adults were not seperated truly, they were just looked at as people who hadn't gotten tall enough to carry things properly yet.

Not that I condone lusting after pre-teens, but my point was that it was acceptable at points in history and in some cultures.
Of course, how you view almost anything will inveriably be "tainted" with your own bias, this subject is no diffrent.
You're right, but there is a reason society in general abandoned the idea of marrying off pre-teen children. Granted, it still happens in some cultures around the globe, but in general, most nations have strict laws against it.
 

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gof22 said:
If this keeps up doctors will be labeled pedophiles for having to deliver babies nude.
More likely anybody who records the birth on tape gets arrested.
 

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In America, child protective services is a useless joke. They tear away kids from competent parents and ignore actual problem cases until the kid is dead.

I know someone who got taken away from her mother by them when she was a kid because she was a latchkey kid: her mother was single and had to work. She's still traumatized from her experience with the child protective services pricks who were supposedly protecting her.
 

Lukeje

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GonzoGamer said:
In America, child protective services is a useless joke. They tear away kids from competent parents and ignore actual problem cases until the kid is dead.
Either that or it's just that those are the only two types of cases that get reported by the sensationalist press...
 

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tsb247 said:
ShredHead said:
So what is inherently wrong with paedophiles, it's no more a choice than being gay or being black is, the law preventing you from acting on your sexual desires will just make them stronger so it's inevitable that there will be some Paedophilia in society.
Your argument can also be used to justify cannibalism and serial killers (as mentioned above). The fact remains that pedophilia is wrong, and anyone who attempts to justify it needs to have their head examined. It will never be right, and it will never be accepted - nor will cannibalism or murder.

Charles Manson, Jeffry Dahmer, and BTK had the urge to kill seared into their psyche's. One can also argue that they could not help being what they were. That does not mean they should be accepted by mainstream society.

Pedophilia is indeed WRONG. A young child likely does not understand sexual contact, and the way a child's mind works will not allow it to. To twist one's sexual desires to prey upon the young and innocent will never be right, nor will it ever be accepted in mainstream society. If you honestly believe there is nothing wrong with it, then you need to get some help - FAST.

You need to accept that some things are just wrong - no matter who you try and convince.
You do not know what paedophilia is, what you are referring to is know as as child molestation.

tsb247 said:
Booze Zombie said:
tsb247 said:
I take offense.

I'm a photo lab technician, and I'm hardly a pervert. We have to make some tough decisions sometimes, and it is not a job for everyone. I have seen people resign the position because they could not handle the stress, they could not handle the machinery or the chemistry involved, and they could not follow some of the strict regulations that we must adhere to.

We are hardly, "Morons."
Okay, how about those particular ones were morons, would that be less offensive?

NoryCaw said:
Uhhh, dude, pedophiles will *NEVER* be accepted, nor should they. But this is *NOT* pedophilia. Adults sexually lusting after children (not 17 year old girls, but children) is inherently wrong and will never make it into the mainstream. If you ever have children you will understand why the thought of a grown adult looking lasciviously at your 5 year old daughter is the most troubling and enraging thing imaginable.
In the middle ages, I do believe there were 10 year old lords getting married and feverishly mating with their wives.

How you treat someone will effect the rate of their mental development, treating children like adults will result in them maturing faster, in mind.
Back in the pre-industrial-era, children and adults were not seperated truly, they were just looked at as people who hadn't gotten tall enough to carry things properly yet.

Not that I condone lusting after pre-teens, but my point was that it was acceptable at points in history and in some cultures.
Of course, how you view almost anything will inveriably be "tainted" with your own bias, this subject is no diffrent.
You're right, but there is a reason society in general abandoned the idea of marrying off pre-teen children. Granted, it still happens in some cultures around the globe, but in general, most nations have strict laws against it.
The reason is that the 20th century media artificially made made the teens a separate demographic. Also The base level of knowledge needed has increased so much that it's improbable to finish education before around 18.

But that whole "they did it for a reason" thing is BS. Who is "they"? There is no "they". No single point in time where a international committee of authorities got together and said "this is how it is".

It was an uncontrolled cultural slide in perception and expectations, nothing more. Even in the "civilized world" it's not a unanimous as you make it sounds, where AOC varies from 12 to 21.
 

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Emilie Diabolica said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Emilie Diabolica said:
what.... the.... fuck....!

this is another reason why americans as a whole have such a bad name in other countries.
(no offence to you normal americans, i'm referring to the general stereotype)

well i think kudos to the parents for sueing walmart, though really they dont have much of a chance, seeing as they're fighting against a corporate giant with the best lawyers, mountains of money, etc...

...What does this have to do with Americans? Other than it taking place in America?
Because this wouldn't happen anywhere else besides the US. The level of paranoia over there is insane. This would never happen in Australia, people tend to be more level-headed.
Don't even make me laugh. I went to bed, so I didn't get a chance to respond to this comment until now, but I clearly don't have to. Other people have already responded and made a mockery of that ignorant comment. All of this "OH MAN THAT STUFF WOULDN'T HAPPEN HERE!" is getting ridiculous. Do some research before you start pointing fingers, and saying ignorant stuff like that.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
Hell if I had pics of naked kids come through my photo lab you can bet someone is getting contacted. For all the guy knew it coulda been creepy uncle joe snapping pics while the niece/nephews played oblivious, sexual abuse is often done by family members. So why not be cautious.

Bottom line, don't freaking take iffy pics to a public developer. Just use a printer or kiosk.
If they thought there was anything wrong with the images or had some other motive, do you think that these people would be taking the pictures to a local Wal-Mart in the first place? If they had some other use for these pictures they more than likely would develop them by other means.
You're basically saying anything your kid does that someone else somewhere might see it as 'wrong' should be kept from getting developed, even though there is nothing wrong about it?
Being cautious is all fine and dandy, but there is being cautious and being an idiot. The person who reported these two parents was an idiot.
 

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khaimera said:
Definitely not wrong. But at the same time, the lawsuit seems pointless. Though I'm not a parent, whats the point of taking bathtime pics anyways.
Because it's cute. Hell, they have bathtime VIDEOS of kids on America's Funniest Home Videos, and no one makes any fuss over those.
 

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I got a couple kids, 8 months and 2, and I've found an easy way to curb this issue: don't take the pictures. It really isn't necessary, I have plenty of pics of them doing funny/cute things with their clothes on. I see the way things are in society, and have chosen to abide by the social norm so my kids don't get taken away. These parents should have done the same thing, I don't see how they can sue, unless they are totally ignorant of the way America works beyond their front door.