PC Gamers can seperate the wheat from the chaff.

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out0v0rder

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I agree with one of the quotes in the following link....

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22066 [http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=22066]


"The PC market is much more... hardcore," he says, taking a minute to mull on the appropriate term. "PC players are more decisive in what they want to play; they're more focused. You can't release a crap game for the PC anymore, and people will just rush out and buy it."

"For the Xbox 360, for example, it's much more mainstream, and you can release titles... of lower quality, to be honest, and still sell a lot. That's not saying all PC games are really great -- because they're not -- but the games that are not great don't get any sales at all, so there is a larger pressure to create great games for the PC. But if the game is good, you can sell a lot of units."

The discussion is a not a new one I believe. Does any one else notice that alot of "crap" games sell more on consoles?
 

bad rider

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Your right that they don't rush out to buy it anymore....

But seriously, the pc market you can't realease bad games because people tend to play them before they buy them, not always through legitamate methods. Whereas on the 360, that option is more closed off.
 

VoidObject

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Oh yeah, hands down PC games are always going to be set to a higher standard. The only reason that I could think of is because PC users are not normally just casual gamers; we are the l33t dorks.

The last game I bought for my PC was Left 4 Dead, which I didn't like as much as I had hoped to. What is it about undead that makes me think anything remotely close to slaughter house gore fests mentionting zombies have a chance to be the greatest game ever made? Well... I dunno. Zombie fan boy I guess.

This is compared to the last console game I bought for the Xbox360: Halo 3. It was... alright. Don't flame me for saying that. I had the urge to say it made me cry myself to sleep for a week after the release date, but that would only be partially true.

If you noticed the time line between titles is vast, L4D being recent and Halo 3 being... well... not recent. It's because I haven't really been looking forward to anything on the console for awhile, nothing worth buying anyway, not when I can rent or borrow it.
 

bad rider

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Actually best way to sum it up is, you get leet people on either side. Each will tell you they are more l44t. Yes you are right there are more l44t people on the Pc gamers side. But what kind of l44t gamer dosen't own a pc?
 

out0v0rder

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Cool, the first topic I make on this site and it has already caused a lurker to waste his first post ever on it. I'm proud.
 

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Games on multiplatform (PS3/360 AND PC) tend to be released in a staggered manner. Meaning the Console version comes out, the gamers pay for it, cry "it's shit" and then the title is release for PC, whereupon the PC gamers tell the devs to sling their hook because the game is weak.

IMHO

bad rider said:
Actually best way to sum it up is, you get leet people on either side. Each will tell you they are more l44t. Yes you are right there are more l44t people on the Pc gamers side. But what kind of l44t gamer dosen't own a pc?
Quoted for teh lulz.

It's L33T not L44t :D
 

Erana

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It seems to me that PC gamers have made a more blatant hardware commitment to gaming.

But a second (Sort of) David Lynch refrence in one day? A lucky girl is me!
 

NXMT

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Crap games are usually purchased by younger players and consoles are generally more accessible. It's not a surprise. However, this article would be alot different if it was written 10 years ago when the PC had a huge advantage over consoles in terms of depth and quality. Nowadays, everything is pretty much even. The only way for PC gaming to remain afloat is to raise it's standards even further hence the segregation in demographic.
 

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wordsmith said:
bad rider said:
Actually best way to sum it up is, you get leet people on either side. Each will tell you they are more l44t. Yes you are right there are more l44t people on the Pc gamers side. But what kind of l44t gamer dosen't own a pc?
Quoted for teh lulz.

It's L33T not L44t :D
I'm not sure who is intending to be sillier here, bad rider or wordsmith, but l44t would obviously be the next higher thing from l33t, it's like pwn vs own.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
jamesworkshop said:
I would agree I didn't spend £2000 in total on a PC to play rubbish games
You did?

Care to give us your specifications?

That machine must be a beast.
Not really the machine was built mid 2006
Athlon X2 5200 (2.6Ghz dual core)
2x1 gig Crucial Ballistix tracer ram (DDR2 800Mhz 4-4-4-12)
EVGA 7900GTX
ThermalTake ArmourLCS (massive case with liquid cooling system)
ASUS Crosshair republic of gamer series motherboard (AM2 2x pci-e x16 slots)
160GB SATA300 Harddrive
560 modular PSU
standard floppy, dvd rom, m/Kb, speakers

The original power supply didn't work so I got an Enermax Galaxy (850W Quad sli certified)
I also upgraded to a 9800GTX in april along with another 2 500GB Seagate harddrives (7200.11 32Mb cache) the water cooling also died and was replaced by an Zalman 9700 fan so in all the time i have had it (upgrades/replacments) I have spent roughly £2000.
If I brought this machine today it would only cost about £700 (probably less) the prices of hardware is stupidly cheap, now it would only cost about £30 to replace the Ram were it to died and I easily spent over £100 back in 2006.

I have pics if you want to see I have LEDs all over the place
 

khululy

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gaming is like mining: "wherever you go there is lots of dirt and only a few gems."

I think that most devoted pc gamers tend to be a little bit older overall than the console gaming community.
But over the years the gap between pc and console has closed and multiplatform releases apear almost with every big license.
Even back in the golden age, when pc's were hardly fit to play games, there were plenty of horrible games on the consoles.

But when you spend lots of money on a gaming pc you are not willing to spend the rest of it on a less then mediocre game that's hardly worth a pirated download.
But most console owners who aim for that quick fix and are hardly interested in the gaming industry tend to get swept away by fancy advertising and nice marketing.
Thus keeping the crappy game market alive.

I do think crappy games get higher sales on consoles but I doubt there are more of them on the consoles then on the pc.

P.S. And don't forget the parents who get suckerd into buying games for their kids because they just can't say no to it.
 

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
Eggo said:
loool overpaid

Not all good games sell well on all platforms, but all games which sell well on the PC are good. Even Peggle.

Especially Peggle.
Even Spore?
That sold well? I thought it was just pirated to hell and back and EA counted that toward sales figures.
 
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B...But... Imagine babies was my game of the year 2008..!

I will say that many an idiot buys what they think they will like when they don't have a clue (my halo loving friend being a prime example (seriously, he never plays anything else)) I've bought games i thougth i'd hate purely on recommendation and found that even though it wasn't what i immediately wanted i enjoyed the game immensely.

The current trend makes me exceeding worried about the up and coming 50cent game. If that game makes it to the 'xbox classics' i'll shoot 50cent. And unlike the people before me, i'll shoot the fucking head.