PC LA Noire locked to 30 fps, WTF

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Sleekgiant said:
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30 FPS is perfectly fine for gaming, so what you don't get to use both of your GPUs and run the game at 300 FPS, that's just unnecessary.
300 fps is stupid as it is just rendering frames you do not see. 40 FPS would have been nice though as 35 is where things start to feel laggy to me. If I had to use two high end gpu's to get over 30 fps in a DX 9 game then things would be really wrong.
30 FPS isn't laggy at all to me, I play with a ton of games set to max at 30 FPS as anything over is not needed.

This is just my opinion though so yeah :p
Actually on a monitor 30FPS is a VERY noticeable stutter to most PC gamers including myself. When you are on a couch with a big TV you are not putting the game under as much scrutiny as you are sat 2ft away from a high refresh-rate monitor.

This is not a movie, games don't have prefect motion blur and other assets movies have to be able to run at 24FPS. Consequently you are going to see the stuttering. Its not really a matter of opinion, on a decent monitor 30FPS is going to look like a low framerate or at LEAST be visible.
I'm playing on PC.....also if that was true then how come so many people can record with FRAPs at 30FPS and play smoothly.....
Cause they expect it to lag when they limit the fps?

The frame will not lag for the viewer but the feeling you get when you are playing is that its laging.
So those 8 straight hours I played Portal 2 smoohtly at 30FPS was just an illusion, wow I'm so glad you could show me the light....
Except that I clearly stated if you are used to 60 fps then you will notice the difference between 60fps and 30fps, so I guess you are either playing on console or playing on a computer that isnt good enough for to have stable 60+ fps in all games.
 

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Tubez said:
Sleekgiant said:
Tubez said:
Sleekgiant said:
Scrumpmonkey said:
Sleekgiant said:
ph0b0s123 said:
Sleekgiant said:
30 FPS is perfectly fine for gaming, so what you don't get to use both of your GPUs and run the game at 300 FPS, that's just unnecessary.
300 fps is stupid as it is just rendering frames you do not see. 40 FPS would have been nice though as 35 is where things start to feel laggy to me. If I had to use two high end gpu's to get over 30 fps in a DX 9 game then things would be really wrong.
30 FPS isn't laggy at all to me, I play with a ton of games set to max at 30 FPS as anything over is not needed.

This is just my opinion though so yeah :p
Actually on a monitor 30FPS is a VERY noticeable stutter to most PC gamers including myself. When you are on a couch with a big TV you are not putting the game under as much scrutiny as you are sat 2ft away from a high refresh-rate monitor.

This is not a movie, games don't have prefect motion blur and other assets movies have to be able to run at 24FPS. Consequently you are going to see the stuttering. Its not really a matter of opinion, on a decent monitor 30FPS is going to look like a low framerate or at LEAST be visible.
I'm playing on PC.....also if that was true then how come so many people can record with FRAPs at 30FPS and play smoothly.....
Cause they expect it to lag when they limit the fps?

The frame will not lag for the viewer but the feeling you get when you are playing is that its laging.
So those 8 straight hours I played Portal 2 smoohtly at 30FPS was just an illusion, wow I'm so glad you could show me the light....
Except that I clearly stated if you are used to 60 fps then you will notice the difference between 60fps and 30fps, so I guess you are either playing on console or playing on a computer that isnt good enough for to have stable 60+ fps in all games.
I play games all the way from 30 FPS to 200+FPS

I never notice a difference so yeah :p
 

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Sleekgiant said:
Tubez said:
Sleekgiant said:
Tubez said:
Sleekgiant said:
Scrumpmonkey said:
Sleekgiant said:
ph0b0s123 said:
Sleekgiant said:
30 FPS is perfectly fine for gaming, so what you don't get to use both of your GPUs and run the game at 300 FPS, that's just unnecessary.
300 fps is stupid as it is just rendering frames you do not see. 40 FPS would have been nice though as 35 is where things start to feel laggy to me. If I had to use two high end gpu's to get over 30 fps in a DX 9 game then things would be really wrong.
30 FPS isn't laggy at all to me, I play with a ton of games set to max at 30 FPS as anything over is not needed.

This is just my opinion though so yeah :p
Actually on a monitor 30FPS is a VERY noticeable stutter to most PC gamers including myself. When you are on a couch with a big TV you are not putting the game under as much scrutiny as you are sat 2ft away from a high refresh-rate monitor.

This is not a movie, games don't have prefect motion blur and other assets movies have to be able to run at 24FPS. Consequently you are going to see the stuttering. Its not really a matter of opinion, on a decent monitor 30FPS is going to look like a low framerate or at LEAST be visible.
I'm playing on PC.....also if that was true then how come so many people can record with FRAPs at 30FPS and play smoothly.....
Cause they expect it to lag when they limit the fps?

The frame will not lag for the viewer but the feeling you get when you are playing is that its laging.
So those 8 straight hours I played Portal 2 smoohtly at 30FPS was just an illusion, wow I'm so glad you could show me the light....
Except that I clearly stated if you are used to 60 fps then you will notice the difference between 60fps and 30fps, so I guess you are either playing on console or playing on a computer that isnt good enough for to have stable 60+ fps in all games.
I play games all the way from 30 FPS to 200+FPS

I never notice a difference so yeah :p
So are you saying that Im wrong in that people do not notice the difference between 60fps and 30fps or are you saying that last part of my post was correct?
 

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.....Who cares about framerate? Yeah, games sometimes look better at 60 FPS, but honestly if that's all you're complaining about when it comes to a game I think you need to have priorities shifted. 30 FPS looks perfectly fine and sometimes even has a more cinematic feel to it
Sorry, but what? What the actual fuck?

OT: Yeah, its been pissing me off too. The entire game, at least when walking around, feels kinda stuttery and laggy. Not to mention the horrendous frame rate drops I have been experiencing from time to time, for instance after picking up a news paper.

The rest of the game is really good, so I dont regret my purchase, but I would like to know why the game is locked to 30 FPS. I guess it was that way on consoles because they couldnt handle any more, and they just did a lazy job of porting it over.
It seems it is something to do with the facial tech using 30 fps, since it was console focused. There are hacks to increase the frame rate, but they result in lip sycning issues and other nasty glitches with peoples faces.

It looks the things that are now being used to make games look better on consoles with old hardware, are starting to make the game worse when it comes to porting. That's progress for you.
 

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Do you really need a consistent 30FPS framerate for a game where you'll spend 90% of your time slowly walking around a crime scene and occasionally bending down to pick things up.

I mean I could understand if this was a fast-paced action FPS, but this is almost like asking for a consistent 60FPS framerate for Myst.
 

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Honestly, the whole game feels clunky and laggy to me in a way the console version didn't. It's a not a deal breaker for PC because it's a slower paced game for the most part and the investigations are so brilliant.

I paid 10 bucks for it on steam. If I'd paid much more though I'd have felt a bit afronted. Maybe it's an opimization thing? Either way, not a deal breaker for a game of this pace.
 

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FILTHY CONSOLE SCUM HOLDING BACK THE PC MASTER RACE! /troll

If you can't tell the different here's a back to back comparison: http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html

I'd rather have a better fps than graphics. I don't really care about graphics but I do want fluid gameplay and 60 is quite a bit smoother than 30.
 

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I distinctly remember John Carmack saying that they did some testing with people with Rage running at 30 and 60 fps. He said that people saw a significant difference between the two. Whether you think it's "just fine" is simply your opinion and many of use would rather have it at 60. There's no reason to lock it on PC anyway.
 

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TehCookie said:
If you can't tell the different here's a back to back comparison: http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
I have a 2-year-old laptop, I'd be LUCKY to get 15 FPS on ANYTHING. Even MSPAINT!

OT: Okay, MSpaint is an exaggeration, but still. If you NEED a few extra FPS, then fine, take it. But why not consider donating them to those less fortunate than yourselves? Like me!

...Okay, this was never really on-topic. I probably shouldn't even post this. I'm probably just rambling now. I think I'll stop typing now...
 
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Well while I can understand while that would seem laggy but I have to say while I have not played it LA Noire does not seem like the kind of game where you need the 60FPS like other games but I haven't played it so I don't know how fast paced it is.

Why it is locked at 30FPS is because it is a port and to cut down on costs 30FPS was what was necessary for consoles to properly utilise the facial animations so since it would have cost a lot to redo them in 60FPS for PC or at least they thought it did. This would explain graphical issues with a FPS break mod.
 
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MartianWarMachine said:
TehCookie said:
If you can't tell the different here's a back to back comparison: http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
I have a 2-year-old laptop, I'd be LUCKY to get 15 FPS on ANYTHING. Even MSPAINT!

OT: Okay, MSpaint is an exaggeration, but still. If you NEED a few extra FPS, then fine, take it. But why not consider donating them to those less fortunate than yourselves? Like me!

...Okay, this was never really on-topic. I probably shouldn't even post this. I'm probably just rambling now. I think I'll stop typing now...
I'll give you 5FPS as I need the rest for BF 3 at the moment.
 

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Glademaster said:
MartianWarMachine said:
TehCookie said:
If you can't tell the different here's a back to back comparison: http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
I have a 2-year-old laptop, I'd be LUCKY to get 15 FPS on ANYTHING. Even MSPAINT!

OT: Okay, MSpaint is an exaggeration, but still. If you NEED a few extra FPS, then fine, take it. But why not consider donating them to those less fortunate than yourselves? Like me!

...Okay, this was never really on-topic. I probably shouldn't even post this. I'm probably just rambling now. I think I'll stop typing now...
I'll give you 5FPS as I need the rest for BF 3 at the moment.
Woohoo! Now I can see people's GIF avatars move! :D

*Hugs* ^_^
 

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So what's the problem?
The human eye is fooled into seeing motion at a mere 25 fps, 30 does the trick just fine.
And even if it doesn't for your pan-dimensional optics, so what? It's a videogame, play it!
 

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Abandon4093 said:
You really don't need above 30fps for a game like LA. I don't even see why that's an issue. It's not a game that requires insane reflexes, you don't need to see every nanosecond of the bloody thing. 30fps is more than adequate.
That isnt really the problem, it just that anything below 60fps for me feels like it laging like hell and then I will be annoyed all the time while playing the game cause its locked at freaking 30 fps which will make it so I do not enjoy the game
 

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TheTygerfire said:
.....Who cares about framerate? Yeah, games sometimes look better at 60 FPS, but honestly if that's all you're complaining about when it comes to a game I think you need to have priorities shifted. 30 FPS looks perfectly fine and sometimes even has a more cinematic feel to it
Although I somewhat agree with you, I can still understand what he's coming from. It's just a matter of "my machine should be able to run at 60fps, so it should be running at 60fps".

I mean, I sure as hell prefer 60fps. But I'm not about to complain if something it locked at a certain amount, as long as it isn't under 30.
 

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Jailbird408 said:
So what's the problem?
The human eye is fooled into seeing motion at a mere 25 fps, 30 does the trick just fine.
And even if it doesn't for your pan-dimensional optics, so what? It's a videogame, play it!
That is not completely true, otherwise nobody would be buying 120hz screens.

People can see difference between 24fps and 60 and even 120 since the pictures is more fluid or whatever you call it, perfect example is this link that Thecookie provided:
http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
 

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Jailbird408 said:
So what's the problem?
The human eye is fooled into seeing motion at a mere 25 fps, 30 does the trick just fine.
And even if it doesn't for your pan-dimensional optics, so what? It's a videogame, play it!
Because it serves absolutely no purpose and detracts significantly from the overall experience. I've downloaded the fix, and I've played it in 60 FPS, and the game runs just fine without it.

This is a lazy port, something Rockstar has been doing quite frequently as of Post-San Andreas.

And I'll save the spheal of the FPS test, since that's already been posted.
 

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Tubez said:
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You really don't need above 30fps for a game like LA. I don't even see why that's an issue. It's not a game that requires insane reflexes, you don't need to see every nanosecond of the bloody thing. 30fps is more than adequate.
That isnt really the problem, it just that anything below 60fps for me feels like it laging like hell and then I will be annoyed all the time while playing the game cause its locked at freaking 30 fps which will make it so I do not enjoy the game
You are aware that movies and TV are filmed at 24 fps right? You sound like Activision's marketing department.