People you believe should be looked upon more favorably by history.

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Paperplanes79

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If you look through history there are certain people who are looked upon quite unfavorably for any given reason. I just want your opinion on who you think should be given a boost in the goodness department.

I think Saladin should be seen for the man he really was. An expert tactician, man of the Arts, and quite the Dignified man in warfare. But the history books i grew up with always made him seem like the big bad guy in the crusades. The evil devil worshipper who needs to have his way corrected. Now i know in the middle east he's revered but i think he should be world wide.

But that being said I believe Sigmund Freud shouldn't be so highly revered. I think most of hist theories are unfounded fodder for people who like psychology in an easily digestible manner without trying to hard to study it.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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xmetatr0nx said:
You mean "should be looked upone more favourably by Western History". A lot of people poorly misrepresented by western history have illustrious histories in their own countries and societies, and vice versa.
Some people aren't even in their own country, such as hitler.

That man was bring society to its knees, and he did it all because he was a misunderstood artist.
 

Paperplanes79

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xmetatr0nx said:
You mean "should be looked upone more favourably by Western History". A lot of people poorly misrepresented by western history have illustrious histories in their own countries and societies, and vice versa.
I just mean people in general if you'd like it to be a misinterpretation from the western point make it so I did. But there are people who have been misinterpreted world wide and i want this to be open.

Like how Sigmund has been hailed by western society but i believe he was a kook.
 

dmase

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Micheal Jackson, i figure there are going to be a few confessions from the families that sued him that they lied and he never really did anything to any children. Its more of a hope tho I'm not a huge micheal jackson fan but he was a great artist whos name could possible have been slandered by lies.
 

Spacewolf

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Benadict Arnold he got continuously shafted by the americans but when he snapped he got used as a by-word for treachery
 

Lord George

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Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.
 

NeutralDrow

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Has Nietzsche shaken off his undeserved association with Nazis, yet?

I'm tempted to say Vlad III Tepes (a.k.a. Dracula), but his contributions to the well-being of the peasantry and dedication to the rule of law are kinda balanced out by the atrocities. Similarly, Emperor Nero stopped fiddling when he heard Rome was burning, and then started a series of urban development projects to help prevent recurrence, but he loses points for deflecting criticism by blaming the Christians and stepping up the persecution.

<url=http://www.cracked.com/article_17205_6-historical-villains-who-were-actually-ok-guys.html>Here are some other good ones.

Paperplanes79 said:
I think Saladin should be seen for the man he really was. An expert tactician, man of the Arts, and quite the Dignified man in warfare. But the history books i grew up with always made him seem like the big bad guy in the crusades. The evil devil worshipper who needs to have his way corrected. Now i know in the middle east he's revered but i think he should be world wide.
Is Saladin really hated any more outside the Middle East? I don't actually know, the first time I encountered the name was in Age of Empires 2 (where he's the protagonist).

george144 said:
Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.
I guess if you make sure not to interpret "more favorably" as "favorably," he should count. He did play a huge role in pulling Germany out of the economic crisis during the Weimarr Republic. I think someone on the History Channel said it best: "If Adolf Hitler had died in 1935, he would have gone down as one of history's greatest statesmen." Pity he turned out to be genocidally racist.
 

RebelRising

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I thought Saladin was already pretty favorably looked upon in the history books.

History should be completely factual and objective, but I do have a few that need to be more balance in their portrayal.

Genghis Khan unified all the tribes of the Steppes and built an empire that was economically sufficient and relatively peaceful by the time he died. His descendants ruled China for a while, and he made the Silk Road much more significant in trade from then on. He promoted soldiers based on merit and deeds, not on background or a measly means of keeping loyalty; he even escaped from a a rival tribe as a kid because of his sympathetic watcher. He knew how to form loyalties and ties early on, so as to ensure their strength later on. And, when most other cheifs would just take another wife, he and his brother raided an enemy tribe when they kidnapped his wife (barring the fact that she was only the first of many, but that was just the culture back then). All in all, a very cool guy.

Saddam Hussein, like any dictator worth his salt, killed a bunch of people without much in the way of fair trials or humane disposal, but his force managed to keep religious extremism and terrorism at bay all throughout his rule. As bloodthirsty and inhuman as terrorists like bin Laden are, they were genuinely scared of what Hussein could do to them. He's about as peaceful as you could get in that region for a long time.
 

NeutralDrow

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chstens said:
Hitler have been mentioned several times already. Godwins Law anyone?
He's only been compared to himself. Isn't calling Godwin's Law in an actual discussion of Nazis invalid?
 

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george144 said:
Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.
Nah. He just came along at a bad time, is all.

His strong points were virtually non-existent. Opportunism, maybe, but that's it.
 

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George W. Bush - Not for anything to do with his presidency just for being the clown that he was! XD
 

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george144 said:
Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.
Not really, it's his fault Germany lost WW2. He wanted to control his army's from miles away instead of having generals on the battle field.