People you believe should be looked upon more favorably by history.

[The Infamous Scamola]

I think Saladin should be seen for the man he really was. An expert tactician, man of the Arts, and quite the Dignified man in warfare. But the history books i grew up with always made him seem like the big bad guy in the crusades. The evil devil worshipper who needs to have his way corrected. Now i know in the middle east he's revered but i think he should be world wide.

Don't know what history books you're reading, but Saladin is pretty much revered world-wide as a compassionate leader and intellectually illuminated man with respect for his adversaries and christianity.

 

[Samirat]

Yes, I've never seen any history where Saladin was vilified. Rather, he's usually a heroic figure fighting against the barbaric crusaders. This is another simplification, but never have I seen Saladin painted as a 'bad guy' and the Western armies held in a particularly flattering light. It's almost always the other way around.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.

Not really, it's his fault Germany lost WW2. He wanted to control his army's from miles away instead of having generals on the battle field.

Hitler wasn't a military strategist, but he was the most charismatic leader in history.

He peacefully rose to political power and shook of a depression that had crippled larger countries like the U.S, not only that but he got a bunch of people behind his idea of a "master race" and got the people spirited and moved.

 

[chstens]

Hitler have been mentioned several times already. Godwins Law anyone?

He's only been compared to himself. Isn't calling Godwin's Law in an actual discussion of Nazis invalid?

Good point, but this isn't necesarily a discussion about Nazis. But yeah, you are right.

 

[JFenlon]

che guevara?

 

[steeple]

Richard Nixon, that way he won't be so angry when he becomes president again in a thousand years.

direct ripoff from futurama... also we still need to save his head.


almost always in history losers are mentioned as "the evil devils who want to control the world and eat puppies heads", mainly because the victors get to write the books and destroy different records... im talking ancient time not WW2

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Must...not...say...Hitler...

I will say it for you Hitler. He has unfortunately in many ways been given the blame for a lot of things he had no control over. Like losing the War when in reality it has turned out his Generals' usually lied to him in order to cover their asses. In fact this has been a common debate in the historical community that if Hitler had purged his High Command like Stalin he could have probably done better in the war. People like von Manstein propagated the myth of Hitler losing the war to deflect the blame from themselves and try to wash their hands of it.

 

[urithe]

Nikola Tesla, the man was a f****ing genius!

 

[Rolling Thunder]

Stalin. Yes, he was a psychopathic genocidalist who made Hitler look mild and kindly, and yes he probably had his wife killed, but the man had balls of steel, and took a country that was barely out of the middle ages and turned it into a superpower. Plus, he had a badass moustache.

 

[Ares Tyr]

If you look through history there are certain people who are looked upon quite unfavorably for any given reason. I just want your opinion on who you think should be given a boost in the goodness department.

I think Saladin should be seen for the man he really was. An expert tactician, man of the Arts, and quite the Dignified man in warfare. But the history books i grew up with always made him seem like the big bad guy in the crusades. The evil devil worshipper who needs to have his way corrected. Now i know in the middle east he's revered but i think he should be world wide.

Bill Clinton. Yeah, he basically fixed everything the Republicans did to our economy. Then Bush came along and fucked it all up again. But his legacy is going to end up being "that guy who got a blow-job from a chubby secretary or something".

 

[pirateninj4]

Richard Nixon, that way he won't be so angry when he becomes president again in a thousand years.

Yes. Futurama ftw.

 

[Gooble]

Napoleon-fought for liberty and equality, but probably shouldn't have tried to impose it on the rest of Europe :S

Quite an interesting experience to realise that one of your country's greatest wars was spent fighting someone who ordinarily you would probably want to be victorious.

 

[Drunken Cutman]

I will say it for you Hitler. He has unfortunately in many ways been given the blame for a lot of things he had no control over. Like losing the War when in reality it has turned out his Generals' usually lied to him in order to cover their asses. In fact this has been a common debate in the historical community that if Hitler had purged his High Command like Stalin he could have probably done better in the war. People like von Manstein propagated the myth of Hitler losing the war to deflect the blame from themselves and try to wash their hands of it.

As a history Student I'm afraid I take some exception to what you say here. I think it is quite unfair to say that Hitler's decisions did not lose the war, after all his of his decision to invade Russia was a vary bad one. It is quite commonly accepted that this was the one huge flaw in his military plan and there is a lot of evidence that he went against the recommendations of his Generals in doing so.

I'm not saying Hitler wasn't a good tactician and a smart man but his choice to invade Russia did cause him to eventually lose the war.

Oh and Neville Chamberlain gets a very rough deal in most British people's perception of history.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

Hitler, quite a powerful and charismatic leader who managed to bring the world most of Europe to its knees, for a time at least. Yes he was a crazy genocidal dictator as well but there's no reason not to look at his power and strong points as well.

Fixed. However, I disagree w/ you about Hitler.

 

[Xvito]

Guy Fawkes, Hitler, Stalin.

Off the top of my mind...

--Xvito, keeping it excellent.

 

[Wadders]

I will say it for you Hitler. He has unfortunately in many ways been given the blame for a lot of things he had no control over. Like losing the War when in reality it has turned out his Generals' usually lied to him in order to cover their asses. In fact this has been a common debate in the historical community that if Hitler had purged his High Command like Stalin he could have probably done better in the war. People like von Manstein propagated the myth of Hitler losing the war to deflect the blame from themselves and try to wash their hands of it.

As a history Student I'm afraid I take some exception to what you say here. I think it is quite unfair to say that Hitler did not lose the war, after all his of his decision to invade Russia was a vary bad one. It is quite commonly accepted that this was the one huge flaw in his military plan and there is a lot of evidence that he went against the recommendations of his Generals in doing so.

I'm not saying Hitler wasn't a good tactician and a smart man but his choice to invade Russia did cause him to eventually lose the war.

Oh and Neville Chamberlain gets a very rough deal in most British people's perception of history.

Yeah, Hitlers Generals (at least the ones who were not just yes-men like Kietel) lied to him because they gave a shit about their men, and saw no reason to sacrifice more men than was absolutely necessary, just for a syphilis ridden lunatic who attempted to give orders to army groups that simply did not exist.

And yeah, Operation Barbarossa was a pretty bad decision... He didn't count on the tenacity of the Russians to hold them back until the fucking horrible winter arrived.