What brilliant things have religions given us? Wars. Yes Wars are caused by mankind but if truth be told so was the entire concept of god. I'm not guna sit here and stubbornly deny that there is such a thing as "god", nobody knows if such a thing exists or not. BUT COMEOOOON! Some random wrote a book (the bible) xxxx years ago full of stories and they got interpreted into being the book of "god"? I'm more partial to believe the theory of evolution over the theory of god. Yes they're both theories, but at least evolution has some evidence.
Personal Opinion on Religion (Atheist View)
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Another atheist messiah come to join the part that is the theophobic website known as The Escapist?bongkong89 said:
Great. Just what we needed.
nyctoftero said:Omg I don't think The Escapist was meant for an internet holy war
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The site is becoming nothing more than an a shrine to religious hate. A fair few people have already left because of it (one of the reasons I started fighting this shit so hard). The escapist staff just don't seem to care very much.
Even a topic on nudity and that topic on ammending the constitution turned into anti-religious hate speeches.
My personal take is that I really truly could care less, if there is a god/afterlife great if theres not well its not like ill be self aware after i die to be bothered by it. I guess im agnostic then, but above all else im a humanist first and foremost I care about people more than anything if religion helps them or makes them happy fine, if you try and force others to an agenda, threaten others with hell or try and judge me/my lifestlye choice on some "holy" book then we have a problem.
Wise men spent their entire lives meditating on mountains, scientists studying the stars and none of them came any closer to the meaning of life, so why should i bother.
Wise men spent their entire lives meditating on mountains, scientists studying the stars and none of them came any closer to the meaning of life, so why should i bother.
Wait a minute!LooK iTz Jinjo said:
How can you start that whole tirade with 'I'm accepting of other peoples beliefs'?
That's like a KKK member saying 'Now I don't care what color of skin you have, but given the opportunity I'd love to kill some minorities (black people in particular) like there is no tomorrow.'
That's not 'accepting' at all!
And your generalizations that religions have only created wars and prejudices is laughably ignorant. Especially since you have an obvious and blatant prejudice against religion (Christianity in particular), and you have no religion!
And then your idea that religion has screwed over the whole world is also hilarious. If anyone screwed over the world, it's...wait for it...people. Yup! People screwed over the entire world, if it is indeed entirely screwed up. Did people do terrible things in the name of religion? Sure they did! But if religion wasn't there, they'd do it for other reasons, and you'd hate that right now.
Blaming religion for the world's woes is just as sensationalistic as blaming video games for gun violence.
Yeesh! Seems like it's cool to be anti-theist these days and spout all the same, tired crap that Dawkins and Hitchens writes down with the eloquence of a spider monkey having a seizure.
I'm just saying, if he's all knowing, all powerful and loving, then he could've just built the "ten commandments" into us, so we could never go to hell because we'd never be able to disobey him (about those ten things).Berithil said:
Essentially speaking you have stated we are mere pawns to a overbearing ruler, who has decided we must abide his laws otherwise we will face eternal damnation is the fiery seas of hell. I do not recall a moment in my life, preceding my decision to become an atheist where I asked God to remove himself from my life, to remove his presence in any way. I suppose he just assumed because humanity apparently did, all generations should suffer. Yes, certainly the signs of a loving God, indeed. A God so loving, the very book you cited has him kill more people than Lucifer even considered.Berithil said:
I do not want to thrash religion, however it bothers me when someone makes an ignorant post claiming we should in essence believe for the sole reason that is the divine law and to question such divination is blasphemy. Personally I find it rather intriguing that if God granted us humans the ability of free will, he actually believed none would question it, none would challenge religion.
Personally it is my belief; religion was formed as a means for the Priests of old to maintain control over the uneducated people. God was an imagination used to instill fear amongst the people of the ancient past. As noted these people were uneducated, thus it would certainly not be a far conclusion to deceive people into believing. Now I see God as more for those seeking a clutch, something or someone to make them feel like everything is worthwhile, like a child?s favorite blanket.
But then everything that makes us human would be gone. No free will, no love, no hate, no anything. We'd be robots! God loves us as His creation, like a father to children, and wants us to love Him in return. But like a father, he will discipline us, and let us experience our own failings, and successes.Booze Zombie said:
To say that God should have just made a world where nothing bad happens and everything is perfect is to say that God should have created a world with no love, and no choice. Love isn't love if it's the only choice available. How do you know it's love?
Quickly let me add that I'm not here to preach to anyone. I'm more than willing to discuss (respectfully) theology and religion with anyone who is willing have a normal discussion without insults, but save that for PMs. Not these forums. They've had enough religious topics as of late. You'd barely know this was a gaming forum, looking at the threads recently.