'Pick-up artist' banned from the UK

[SUPA FRANKY]

OH YEA! I remember him from his Japanese videos where he would take advantage of Japanese girls and push them to his junk because most of them were too passive.

Fuck this guy.

 

[The Lunatic]

That is what he does, he teaches men how to do this and manipulate he women into not reporting it. Teaching them how to do this is what they are paying him money to learn.

Is he Professor X or something?

I'm sorry, but, I really don't think you're going to encounter women who are so incapable of opinion and thought that they're going to find themselves incapable of rejecting a guy.

Especially the kind of guy that spends £1K on classes on how to get women.

 

[carnex]

So the guy started out making videos of him doing this and showing how he got the girls not to report him. Guys wanted to now how to do that too, so now he charges them money for him to teach them how to sexually assault women and manipulate them into not reporting it. Sure Some of the videos have been pulled now due to the nature of them, but MANY people already viewed them before they took them down. I am sure they exist somewhere on line still. DID you miss this happening when the videos were put up in the first place?

And that makes his actions more deplorable than what I described? Freedom of speech means swallowing things that you find utterly disgusting and deplorable too. Well, at least I'm taught so.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So the guy started out making videos of him doing this and showing how he got the girls not to report him. Guys wanted to now how to do that too, so now he charges them money for him to teach them how to sexually assault women and manipulate them into not reporting it. Sure Some of the videos have been pulled now due to the nature of them, but MANY people already viewed them before they took them down. I am sure they exist somewhere on line still. DID you miss this happening when the videos were put up in the first place?

And that makes his actions more deplorable than what I described? Freedom of speech means swallowing things that you find utterly disgusting and deplorable too.

Speech =/= touching. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with touching someone, ever.

It can also be inciting a crime as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encouraging_or_assisting_a_crime_in_English_law
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/03/05/in-free-speech-a-line-between-offputting-and-illegal/inciting-violence-is-not-protected-speech

 

[Mezahmay]

I fail to see how failing to prevent him entry into Britain somehow legitimizes his practices when far worse people enter, live in, and leave the country every day but have a lower profile about how they do it. However, home secretary Theresa May has the authority to be as petty as she pleases as long as it's within her authority to do so.

 

[PainInTheAssInternet]

So the guy started out making videos of him doing this and showing how he got the girls not to report him. Guys wanted to now how to do that too, so now he charges them money for him to teach them how to sexually assault women and manipulate them into not reporting it. Sure Some of the videos have been pulled now due to the nature of them, but MANY people already viewed them before they took them down. I am sure they exist somewhere on line still. DID you miss this happening when the videos were put up in the first place?

And that makes his actions more deplorable than what I described? Freedom of speech means swallowing things that you find utterly disgusting and deplorable too. Well, at least I'm taught so.

Physical contact with the unwilling is an integral part of his "training." He is explicitly instructing others to commit sexual assault. It's not a free speech issue once you cross that boundary.

EDIT
Even disallowing the physical contact, his program explicitly encourages emotional abuse. I'd say that's grounds for disallowing him from continuing in the same spirit as not being permitted to yell "fire" in a theatre. Or "Death to America" in American cities.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Pick-up Artist? I thought the proper word is dating couch or dating expect or is it suppose to be a play on word on con artist?

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Pick-up Artist? I thought the proper word is dating couch or dating expect or is it suppose to be a play on word on con artist?

In this case, neither are appropriate. "Sexual assault instructor" would be the most accurate term for this guy. Dating is consensual, that isn't what this guy does.

 

[Parasondox]

So the guy started out making videos of him doing this and showing how he got the girls not to report him. Guys wanted to now how to do that too, so now he charges them money for him to teach them how to sexually assault women and manipulate them into not reporting it. Sure Some of the videos have been pulled now due to the nature of them, but MANY people already viewed them before they took them down. I am sure they exist somewhere on line still. DID you miss this happening when the videos were put up in the first place?

And that makes his actions more deplorable than what I described? Freedom of speech means swallowing things that you find utterly disgusting and deplorable too. Well, at least I'm taught so.

That's not freedom of speech and as someone already pointed out, this is advocating manipulation and abuse. Freedom of Speech is not that. Its utterly disgusting and shouldn't be allowed or tolerated.

 

[Erttheking]

Encourages kissing and touching without consent? Well fuck this guy. Good on the UK

 

[[Kira Must Die]]

Ah, yes, I heard of this guy. He made those videos teaching white men how to pick up Japanese women... by pushing their heads into his crotch while saying "Pikachu!" (With clips of him doing it,) and who's twitter account is filled with such lovely comments like...

Spoiler

And so much more.

So yeah... I can safely say I feel no sympathy towards this man and think he doesn't deserve to even look at a woman let alone teach other men how to pick them up.

 

[Parasondox]

]Ah, yes, I heard of this guy. He made those videos teaching white men how to pick up Japanese women... by pushing their heads into his crotch while saying "Pikachu!" (With clips of him doing it,) and who's twitter account is filled with such lovely comments like...

Spoiler

And so much more.

So yeah... I can safely say I feel no sympathy towards this man and think he doesn't deserve to even look at a woman let alone teach other men how to pick them up.

That's just... wow. Anyone would mistaken them for shitty troll comments that no one takes seriously. But if he truly believes all of that and isn't trolling then he needs help.

 

[Phasmal]

I had two thoughts when I heard this-

Spoiler: First thought

Spoiler: Second thought

How long before someone on the Escapist tries to defend this guy?

I think my country will do just fine without this prick trying to teach people it's acceptable to grab women and force their head on your crotch, thank you very much.

There was a petition, it was sent to the government, they decided he should not be allowed to enter. I think there's a difference between `denied entry` and `banned`, but that's another matter.

I am 100% okay with this.

 

[one squirrel]

Apperantly, women need to be protected by the state from being persuaded into having sex. Because they are like children and can't take responsibility for themselves. Un-be-fucking-lievable.

Is he a sex offender? If yes, lock him up. If no, since when is being a slight asshole enough to being denied state entry?

 

[Colour Scientist]

I'd be quite pleased if no country let him in and he slowly sank beneath the rising waves while knocking on the border guard's porta-cabin door (because that's what borders look like). Glub glub glub.

He has a "bootcamp" scheduled in Dublin too but it looks like there's a similar petition telling him to fuck right off.

I'm not one for infantilisation and, in most other cases, I wouldn't be against someone just speaking but this guy is outright advocating sexual assault so yeah, I'd rather he didn't come here to carry out his Sexual Harrassment Bootcamp.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Yeah, this is good. We don't need people like him here. We've already got too many.

And I'm looking at his Twitter, knowing that he is 100% open about his "practices" and "ideas", and just.. wow. He should be in prison. He's got to have done something non consensual in the past, and the fact that he hasn't been investigated in the past makes me genuinely worried.

I personally want to see this man barred entry from the entire of Europe. It probably won't happen, but it would be hilarious if it.

 

[sageoftruth]

Remarkably despite what some people seem to think, women are capable of opinions and thoughts of their own, and unless something non-consensual has happened, I'm not seeing the issue here.

IIRC, he's big on explaining how to harass (include choke) women and get away with it. He posted a diagram of common forms of abuse and said "Might as well be a checklist" or words to that effect.

I think this is what we need more of before I can decide where I stand. What he's doing sounds reprehensible, but all three of those articles kind of sound like the inquisition calling a someone a witch. The scene in Japan definitely moved me though. The Japanese government itself has been taking steps to prevent exactly what he is doing from happening. Outside of that though, I really don't know exactly what he is teaching. I guess I have some research to do.