'Pick-up artist' banned from the UK

[ToastiestZombie]

Yeah, this is bull in my eyes. Our country lets in thousands of unskilled workers a year, most of them only coming here for the benefits, so the border patrol suddenly being stern on a guy because hes a dick is just crap in my eyes. To a non-brit this may seem fair, but to someone who's living in the country I cant defend it.

 

[Colour Scientist]

most of them only coming here for the benefits

That's just not true.

You see the same argument spouted in Ireland and a lot of people are inclined to believe that the percentage of non-nationals claiming benefits is much larger than it actually is.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

most of them only coming here for the benefits

That's just not true.

You see the same argument spouted in Ireland and a lot of people are inclined to believe that the percentage of non-nationals claiming benefits is much larger than it actually is.

Most was an exaggeration, but its still a large amount and its putting strain on our police, the NHS and our countryside.

 

[Colour Scientist]

most of them only coming here for the benefits

That's just not true.

You see the same argument spouted in Ireland and a lot of people are inclined to believe that the percentage of non-nationals claiming benefits is much larger than it actually is.

Most was an exaggeration, but its still a large amount and its putting strain on our police, the NHS and our countryside.

I know I'm not going to persuade you of anything negative about non-white-straight-males so I'm gonna leave the argument.

Oh my God, really?

You can't come up with a convincing argument so you're just going to immediately hide behind "you just don't like straight white guys"?


All of my lolz.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

most of them only coming here for the benefits

That's just not true.

You see the same argument spouted in Ireland and a lot of people are inclined to believe that the percentage of non-nationals claiming benefits is much larger than it actually is.

Most was an exaggeration, but its still a large amount and its putting strain on our police, the NHS and our countryside.

I know I'm not going to persuade you of anything negative about non-white-straight-males so I'm gonna leave the argument.

Oh my God, really?

You can't come up with a convincing argument so you're just going to immediately hide behind "you just don't like straight white guys"?


All of my lolz.

My argument is that they're putting a strain on our services, which they are. If that wasn't the case, why would benefits tourism even be a thing? It's common sense that so many people in such a small island wil create a strain on everything. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30011512

 

[Colour Scientist]

You're aware other people can check your post history, right?

Meaning?

My argument is that they're putting a strain on our services, which they are. If that wasn't the case, why would benefits tourism even be a thing? It's common sense that so many people in such a small island wil create a strain on everything. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30011512

Sure, people are always going to abuse the system, both nationals and non-nationals.

I just think that the proportion of immigrants coming over to use the benefit system are exaggerated, as is the negative impact it has on society at large.

I don't think the minority who do come over with the intention of mooching the benefit system is enough to justify the negative discourse that frequently surrounds immigration, especially when most people abusing the system are actually native citizens.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

I just think that the proportion of immigrants coming over to use the benefit system are exaggerated, as is the negative impact it has on society at large.

I don't think the minority who do come over with the intention of mooching the benefit system is enough to justify the negative discourse that frequently surrounds immigration, especially when most people abusing the system are actually native citizens.

But the thing is, its not just benefits tourism. Every immigrant needs a home, a job, food, healthcare, education and more and our services simply cannot handle thousands of immigrants every year. If they were all doctors, teachers, etc then it might be fine, but most of them are unskilled workers.

 

[DefunctTheory]

rape=/= sexual assault. Rape requires penetration. Yes women ion film have rejected his advances, and there have been MANY recorded cases of women letting him know it was not consensual. People are not entitled to walk up and touch and kiss others without their permission. The thing is he is proud of doing this.

Okay, that's sexual assault, which is still a crime. Yet, no criminal record of it?

As I said, yeah, that sounds like a really dumb thing to do, and you're going to offend people at the very least!

But, I find it hard to believe there's nothing criminal reported for it. And if there's nothing criminal, it seems a bit far to ban somebody from a country for acts that aren't even illegal, or have been reported as such.

Apperantly, women need to be protected by the state from being persuaded into having sex. Because they are like children and can't take responsibility for themselves. Un-be-fucking-lievable.

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding on how pick up artistry, or 'Game Theory' as it sometimes is called, works. Perhaps I can assist.

What Julien Blanc and his ilk teach is not how to sleep with any women you want, but how to target the weak and systematically break down what little defense and self respect those people have. They're rarely called to answer for their harassment because they carefully choose women who are statistically unlikely to report they're behavior, and then emotionally and physically threaten and abuse these women to cow them into submission. Mr. Blanc doesn't turn PH. D, candidates into emotional unstable women - he selects emotionally unstable or passive women and takes from them what he wants. Also take into account that his more recently filmed 'exploits' occurred in foreign nations he was visiting - places where he left before any fair investigation could take place, and of which extradition would be, lets face it, impractical and unlikely to happen considering the nature of the crimes he's committed.

That being said, I'm unsure if that qualifies him for denial of entry into a country - it does seem a bit extreme, and likely an abuse of state power. I do think that what we know about Julien Blanc certainly should disqualify him from seeking citizenship of a state (If he ever tried), and if any country that allows him entry dedicated a few police officers to follow him about while he was in country, I would consider that tax money well spent.

 

[Colour Scientist]

I just think that the proportion of immigrants coming over to use the benefit system are exaggerated, as is the negative impact it has on society at large.

I don't think the minority who do come over with the intention of mooching the benefit system is enough to justify the negative discourse that frequently surrounds immigration, especially when most people abusing the system are actually native citizens.

But the thing is, its not just benefits tourism. Every immigrant needs a home, a job, food, healthcare, education and more and our services simply cannot handle thousands of immigrants every year. If they were all doctors, teachers, etc then it might be fine, but most of them are unskilled workers.

Unskilled labourers who get jobs that don't require a skill. A lot of immigrants get jobs in the service industry, construction, that kind of thing.

A majority of immigrants are working, renting their own homes, paying taxes and functioning as any other citizen would. Paying taxes entitles them to healthcare, education and all of the other benefits that come with being a resident tax payer.

It might be an easy stereotype to make but most immigrants don't land over demanding free food and housing.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Unskilled labourers who get jobs that don't require a skill. A lot of immigrants get jobs in the service industry, construction, that kind of thing.

A majority of immigrants are working, renting their own homes, paying taxes and functioning as any other citizen would. Paying taxes entitles them to healthcare, education and all of the other benefits that come with being a resident tax payer.

It might be an easy stereotype to make but most immigrants don't land over demanding free food and housing.

All the tax money in the world wont improve race relations, stop the spread of sharia law, knock waiting times down in hospitals or build more land. Services just can't handle it, there are too few teachers, doctors and police to keep a country smaller than most US states filled with more people than most US states satisfied. That and those jobs are taken away from the people who are born here that don't have a handy free-healthcare, diverse utopia to go to.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Unskilled labourers who get jobs that don't require a skill. A lot of immigrants get jobs in the service industry, construction, that kind of thing.

A majority of immigrants are working, renting their own homes, paying taxes and functioning as any other citizen would. Paying taxes entitles them to healthcare, education and all of the other benefits that come with being a resident tax payer.

It might be an easy stereotype to make but most immigrants don't land over demanding free food and housing.

All the tax money in the world wont improve race relations, stop the spread of sharia law, knock waiting times down in hospitals or build more land. Services just can't handle it, there are too few teachers, doctors and police to keep a country smaller than most US states filled with more people than most US states satisfied. That and those jobs are taken away from the people who are born here that don't have a handy free-healthcare, diverse utopia to go to.

I'mma just leave this here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29921615

I don't care where you come from, if you want to work, you deserve everything a citizen born in the UK is entitled to.

I've seen enough chavvy inbred fucktards in every dole office I've ever been in than any immigrant, at least we get a little ethnic diversity XD

 

[Rabbitboy]

All the tax money in the world wont improve race relations, stop the spread of sharia law, knock waiting times down in hospitals or build more land. Services just can't handle it, there are too few teachers, doctors and police to keep a country smaller than most US states filled with more people than most US states satisfied. That and those jobs are taken away from the people who are born here that don't have a handy free-healthcare, diverse utopia to go to.

You can improve "race relations" by treating other people normally. And I don't know how it is where you live but over here I don't notice anything from sharia law. And you can use the extra tax money to train and hire more doctors, teachers and police officers. And of course you don't have a free health care utopia to go to. You already live in it!

As for them taking away your jobs? I believe Doug Stanhope says it better and funnier than I ever could.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

All the tax money in the world wont improve race relations, stop the spread of sharia law, knock waiting times down in hospitals or build more land. Services just can't handle it, there are too few teachers, doctors and police to keep a country smaller than most US states filled with more people than most US states satisfied. That and those jobs are taken away from the people who are born here that don't have a handy free-healthcare, diverse utopia to go to.

You can improve "race relations" by treating other people normally. And I don't know how it is where you live but over here I don't notice anything from sharia law. And you can use the extra tax money to train and hire more doctors, teachers and police officers. And of course you don't have a free health care utopia to go to. You already live in it!

As for them taking away your jobs? I believe Doug Stanhope says it better and funnier than I ever could.

I dunno man, Manuel has been eyeing up my position at the Dinosaur Laser Fight parlour.

I don't think he'll get it though, they don't have dinosaurs or lasers in Spain.

...

Probably.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

You can improve "race relations" by treating other people normally. And I don't know how it is where you live but over here I don't notice anything from sharia law. And you can use the extra tax money to train and hire more doctors, teachers and police officers. And of course you don't have a free health care utopia to go to. You already live in it!

You have a very limited view on things, mainly because you don't live here. We have schools literally indoctrinating children into anti-english, Islamic beliefs, we have councils who actively ignore the mass rape of girls because they don't want to offend and we have entire areas now run by Sharia law which is worse than any pick-up artist. Some cultures do not mix, and it won't just go away if we (i.e. the whites) treat people normally.

And 5bn a year is a drop in the water compared to the amount it would cost to make the NHS fit for 60m+ people, and that's just the NHS. Immigrants require the same services as every human being, they aren't just magical money-making fairies that don't take up any space.

Finally, the 'utopia' bit was an exaggeration, with the strain the NHS is being put under you'd be lucky to get a heart transplant for years, if at all.

I'mma just leave this here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29921615

I don't care where you come from, if you want to work, you deserve everything a citizen born in the UK is entitled to.

I've seen enough chavvy inbred fucktards in every dole office I've ever been in than any immigrant, at least we get a ethnic diversity XD

Firstly, I have read that report before and it didn't take into acccount crime, the NHS, unemployment for the indigenous population, illegal immigrants or non-EU immigrants. It's limited in scope.

Secondly, I've been saying all along but it's not just the money. Read my previous posts for more.

Finally, chavs are bad, but if you went to any places with a high amount of immigrants your views might be shattered.

 

[Parasondox]

Shall we get back to the main topic please and not a heated debated about immigration, benefits and "dey tok r jewbs", "these damn immigrants coming over here"... again? Thank you

Apperantly, women need to be protected by the state from being persuaded into having sex. Because they are like children and can't take responsibility for themselves. Un-be-fucking-lievable.

Is he a sex offender? If yes, lock him up. If no, since when is being a slight asshole enough to being denied state entry?

A petition was sent to the government by the people. It got enough signatures to warrant a response by said government. They listened to the people, which is rare, and acted upon it. It seems to me people including WOMEN petitioned for this to happen. Also, if a person is trying to teach others ways of harming the opposite sex in order to furfil their own sexual needs, putting many people in danger, then I think maybe, just maybe, that's has to be looked at and been seen as a high concerning matter.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You can improve "race relations" by treating other people normally. And I don't know how it is where you live but over here I don't notice anything from sharia law. And you can use the extra tax money to train and hire more doctors, teachers and police officers. And of course you don't have a free health care utopia to go to. You already live in it!

You have a very limited view on things, mainly because you don't live here. We have schools literally indoctrinating children into anti-english, Islamic beliefs, we have councils who actively ignore the mass rape of girls because they don't want to offend and we have entire areas now run by Sharia law which is worse than any pick-up artist. Some cultures do not mix, and it won't just go away if we (i.e. the whites) treat people normally.

You're what? 16? 17?

I'm not going to dismiss you because of your age, that would be a dick move, but don't try and get sucked into the Daily Mail rhetoric that plagues the country, it's not a healthy or fair mindset to be stuck in.

Don't be this guy.


Nobody wants to be that guy.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

snip

Here, quick google search with no Daily Mail in sight.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/operation-trojan-horse-now-25-birmingham-schools-under-investigation-for-alleged-islamic-extremist-takeover-plot-9259798.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html
You live here and you haven't seen any of these?

 

[V4Viewtiful]

White supremacists, Black Supremacists, NeoNazis, feminists advocating extermination of males etc are accepted regularly... it's called innocent until proven guilty.

But this guy is worse apparently. No, I can't support such actions. Hi might be asshole, but that's not grounds for refusal of entry. By that standard, no politician would cross borders.

Pretty much my stance, but this might violates quite a few rights as well.

Saying that though, what he does is "rapey" so i'll wait till women start doing what he does but to men and see what happens, unless they already are, I know some women trap or punish men by baring children without there consent (saying there on the pill but aren't).
You know it's coming

 

[Parasondox]

snip

Here, quick google search with no Daily Mail in sight.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/operation-trojan-horse-now-25-birmingham-schools-under-investigation-for-alleged-islamic-extremist-takeover-plot-9259798.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html
You live here and you haven't seen any of these?

May I just suggest that you make a thread about this in R&P and have all the heated discussion you want, there. All of this is turning into a hated and heated "Us vs Them" situation that has been happening too many times on this site and everywhere else.