It is exaggerated the biggest strain on resources let alone money is WASTE.Colour Scientist said:
From the NHS to the BBC there is soo much waste in the system it's insulting.
'Pick-up artist' banned from the UK
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From the NHS to the BBC there is soo much waste in the system it's insulting.
Immigration control has nothing to with innocence before guilt, the Home Office can legally refuse entry to anyone they think might be a problem (it is in fact an obligation). They do it on a regular basis although (in)famous people like this guy are more likely to get their attention rather than any random racist, outside of people on watch lists of course.carnex said:
ToastiestZombie said:
The first one is a stand alone incident, and while that's terrible, it's hardly representative of immigrants as a whole, funnily enough the people involved are British-Pakistani, so they were born in this country, not immigrants.
The second was not proven, so I'd take that with a huge pile of salt.
The third is in regard to wills, which is a pretty moot point because you can specify whatever the fuck you want in a will anyway, this just makes it easier for lawyers to write them up in regards to Muslims.
Edit: Done goofed my quote -__-
He asked for citations, I gave him them. I'll leave now if you want, when the person arguing against me seriously uses my age and comedians to back up their points I know an argument isn't going anywhere.Paradox SuXcess said:
You can do as you wish. I am not stopping you from speaking your mind, just gave you a suggestion about how to have a better debate via R&P. What ever tactic someone uses to have a debate with you is up to them. One advice, Debates shouldn't be hated with a hint of name calling or labelling. That will defeat any point being made and make the discussion toxic.ToastiestZombie said:
I couldn?t care less whether or not he comes into the UK (for whatever reason, he doesn?t seem to have been reprimanded by the authorities for sexual assault); ironically, I just find it funny that these loser men are believing what he, the self-styled ?pick-up artist?, is saying, and laughing along with his pathetic misunderstanding of women and foreign cultures. Unfortunately, there are a lot of guys who actually are like this, and how they manage to get girls I?ll never know. It?s all bluff and no buff.
Oh, and could someone explain to me why I?ve never heard anything actually good about any of these ?pick-up artists?? Why don?t these guys just go on a dating website or something, rather than taking the advice of some overcompensating twat like Blanc (and others from RSD)? He?s basically Jay Cartwright from The Inbetweeners, with simultaneously x10 the nerve and the sexism. Just looking from his Twitter page, I genuinely can?t tell whether or not he?s making the darkest of ?jokes?, or he?s being serious and actually believes the shit that he?s spewing.
Honestly, I say this now: if you are a girl and you meet a guy like Blanc who treats you like shit, fucking report them. It doesn?t matter if you or other people think you?re ?making it a big deal out of it?, ?cos they?re wrong. It?s sexual harassment. Otherwise, it gives the message that they can continue doing it and it?ll just make it that much harder for guys like this to get convicted because they can get away with it.
Anyway, I wonder how many girls he?ll be able to pull now that he?s been outed. This past few months have been nothing but dumbasses? empty apologises for their egocentric, morally debauched tomfoolery. I probably sound like some oldie, but I?m 19 years old, and I still know better than this 25-year-old man-child who appears to still be weeping over the times he got ?friend-zoned? in high school.
And ToastiestZombie, can your UKIP-style anti-immigration rhetoric; this isn?t the thread for it.
Oh, and could someone explain to me why I?ve never heard anything actually good about any of these ?pick-up artists?? Why don?t these guys just go on a dating website or something, rather than taking the advice of some overcompensating twat like Blanc (and others from RSD)? He?s basically Jay Cartwright from The Inbetweeners, with simultaneously x10 the nerve and the sexism. Just looking from his Twitter page, I genuinely can?t tell whether or not he?s making the darkest of ?jokes?, or he?s being serious and actually believes the shit that he?s spewing.
Honestly, I say this now: if you are a girl and you meet a guy like Blanc who treats you like shit, fucking report them. It doesn?t matter if you or other people think you?re ?making it a big deal out of it?, ?cos they?re wrong. It?s sexual harassment. Otherwise, it gives the message that they can continue doing it and it?ll just make it that much harder for guys like this to get convicted because they can get away with it.
Anyway, I wonder how many girls he?ll be able to pull now that he?s been outed. This past few months have been nothing but dumbasses? empty apologises for their egocentric, morally debauched tomfoolery. I probably sound like some oldie, but I?m 19 years old, and I still know better than this 25-year-old man-child who appears to still be weeping over the times he got ?friend-zoned? in high school.
And ToastiestZombie, can your UKIP-style anti-immigration rhetoric; this isn?t the thread for it.
I'm not the one calling names. The mere mention of my age, UKiP and the Daily Mail. make the argument heated in my eyes because it implies they see me as inferior. I'm gonna shut up now before more snarky remarks are made about my beliefs.Paradox SuXcess said:
Wasn't this guy also kicked out of Australia?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/central/pickup-artist-controversy-in-melbourne-julien-blanc-looks-for-new-location-for-his-seminar/story-fngnvlpt-1227113749082?nk=c6443daa79bad378d130a4d7fa7d9c47
Yep, it's the same guy. Guys, this isn't some lowly pick-up artist. No, this guy is ten times worse. This is a guy who said that white men could do anything in Tokyo. This is a guy who proudly showed him grabbing women and forcefully shoving their faces into his crotch. This is a man that promotes chocking women who say no to one night stands until they say yes. This is a disgusting excuse of a man and, let's face it, people have been denied entry to a country for less.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/central/pickup-artist-controversy-in-melbourne-julien-blanc-looks-for-new-location-for-his-seminar/story-fngnvlpt-1227113749082?nk=c6443daa79bad378d130a4d7fa7d9c47
Yep, it's the same guy. Guys, this isn't some lowly pick-up artist. No, this guy is ten times worse. This is a guy who said that white men could do anything in Tokyo. This is a guy who proudly showed him grabbing women and forcefully shoving their faces into his crotch. This is a man that promotes chocking women who say no to one night stands until they say yes. This is a disgusting excuse of a man and, let's face it, people have been denied entry to a country for less.
You seem on the up and up. I got into a bit of a tiff with a feminist over if Pick Up Artists are "movement", like feminism itself. This person made the claim that the PUA Movement was destructive.AccursedTheory said:
I mean how would it be a movement? It's one dude who I've gathered (including from your post) just teaches guys to be a aggressively persuasive. That does not a movement make, no?
The accusations are well founded. He took down the video, because he wanted to hide the proof, put he put up his speech in Japan. In it, he said that "White man can do anything to women here" and showed a video in which he grabbed women and forced their face into his crotch, laughing while the women were clearly saying no. So yeah, all sympathy is lost and he just proved himself that he is guilty a hundred fold.carnex said:
Shitting christ. This is the first ive heard of this guy. Just reading the title, i thought only of that Will Smith film and assumed it to be not that bad, but this is a whole new level of cuntifery if ever i saw it!
And yes, hypocritical government etc etc...try changing it if you really think its possible, im just glad he's not here.
And yes, hypocritical government etc etc...try changing it if you really think its possible, im just glad he's not here.
To be fair, I've never seen anyone give actual consent to a sudden kiss. There are no papers to file, there is no verbal declaration made.. it just happens. Technically, what this guy is doing isn't a problem unless someone files charges against him, and everyone he encounters is free to do that. It's not like he's killing these women or even threatening them afterwords. There is absolutely no magical barriers stopping them from filing police reports and getting him arrested.erttheking said:
I don't deny the guy is a giant asshole, sure, but denying people from your country for being offensive is a slippery slope that could potentially have no end. When do we start banning people from our countries for making movies we find politically offensive? Drawing gory art? Having diseases like HIV? If you really want to play the "danger to citizens game" so loosely, technically that last one is a larger threat because if they chose to sleep around and/or got in an accident of some kind, the people in your country will be at risk.
This tidbit from one of the articles is particularly unsettling:
I'm not sure I'd want to let someone in my country who publicly promotes sexually assaulting people.
The mentality is actually so disgusting. I know someone who has just stopped saying "no" when people ask her for sex because she's learned that nobody listens to it. It's sad when you have someone who's had sex a lot and says that she's never once done so because she enjoyed itAccursedTheory said:
As much as I find the entire PUA to be pretty sad and worth of ridicule, I must say I'm not a fan of excluding someone from a visa on the grounds that you don't like their flirting tactics.
Now if he really did grope women or somesuch, that's a different story.
Oh and is silly as this whole pickup stuff is, equating it to rape is just hilariously retarded. Nothing wrong with a person being successful with girls he hits on. (you know, except if there is something to that groping stuff up there. that's a different story)
Now if he really did grope women or somesuch, that's a different story.
Oh and is silly as this whole pickup stuff is, equating it to rape is just hilariously retarded. Nothing wrong with a person being successful with girls he hits on. (you know, except if there is something to that groping stuff up there. that's a different story)
He advocates sexual assault and mental abuse as pickup techniques, and several of his videos involve him grabbing women by the throat and/or pushing their heads towards his crotch.The Lunatic said:
You may need to research the things he has done, things he has tried to hide and some of his tweets and approach to women of different cultures ie. Japan. It's not pretty and has been seen to use physical action.Kathinka said:
Yeah that physical stuff? that's a big no no. If it was just some flirting tactics, no matter how assholish some people might think they are, I'd be firmly against forbidding him entry.Paradox SuXcess said:
Captcha: "half inch". Har har har, I swear sometimes I think captcha is sentient..