Pile of wood = art?

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Mordwyl

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... It's just a log. Literally. Someone paid ten grand for wood. I dabble in several artistic hobbies, primarily drawing, and this just seems like a big joke to me.
 

Snotnarok

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I try not to speak out against different art forms, but sometimes I just see art like that as a cry for attention. Much like the camera on the back of the guys head.
 

Justank

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Generic Gamer said:
Escapist community on games as art:

Art is subjective and is designed to show emotion, everyone's definition of art is different and no one can say what is and is not art.

Escapist community's reaction to a piece of Dadaist art:

This is not art lololololololol!
I think the idea is that if this is considered art, how are video games still not considered art?
 

Justank

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Digi7 said:
Gears of War. While it does have an aesthetic and quite beautiful visual tone, (namely the grey mix of stone, metal and dust, punctuated by flashes of fire and blood) it has no poetry, and is quite an ugly game nonetheless. A lot of potential was lost within immaturity and tastelessness.
No way, Gears of War is one of the greatest stories about bros being bros ever told!
 

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Monkfish Acc. said:
My mum used to fuck a dude who would polish bog oak and then successfully sell it for ridiculous piles of cash as art.

So yes. It is art. Dadaism is fucking ridiculous, but whatever. I suppose anything can be art, as long as someone is willing to call it such.
I agree. Willing to call such and willing to PAY such.
Here in my country the modernist movement is still strong and every two years there is an art fair going on in which some artists show great pieces and others prefer some strange form of art such as rotten corn seeds or destroyed toilets.
 

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Justank said:
Digi7 said:
Gears of War. While it does have an aesthetic and quite beautiful visual tone, (namely the grey mix of stone, metal and dust, punctuated by flashes of fire and blood) it has no poetry, and is quite an ugly game nonetheless. A lot of potential was lost within immaturity and tastelessness.
No way, Gears of War is one of the greatest stories about bros being bros ever told!
I wasn't talking about the story, I was talking about the visual tone. The story is great! I'll agree with that, but not all stories are art. Gears of War certainly isn't, and the developers acknowledge that too.

You really think there is depth to a storyline about steroid-pumped testosterone-spitting buffalo men wearing massive body armour and firing huge machine guns at slavering alien steroid-pumped testosterone-spitting buffalo men wearing massive body armour and firing huge machine guns, all whilst swearing at the top of their lungs and making stupid and immature jokes. WE HAVE TO PUT THIS BOMB IN THE GROUND SO IT BLOWS UP IT WILL BE FUCKING AWESOME. HECK YEAH LETS GO. BOOOM OBKBABHJASDHABABABABABAAABAABAAAA!!!! OH MY GOD IT'S A MASSIVE ALIEN LETS SHOOT IT.

No, not art.
 

Kortney

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Generic Gamer said:
Escapist community on games as art:

Art is subjective and is designed to show emotion, everyone's definition of art is different and no one can say what is and is not art.

Escapist community's reaction to a piece of Dadaist art:

This is not art lololololololol!
This. This so much.
 

Lonan

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MEEBO17 said:
I remember I went to a local museum last year, and there was a huge painting of 3 stripes (two orange,one red) on the wall. You could buy it for $4,000. And I was like "the fuck"? Oh, the wood pile? No, defienently not art.
You think that's bad?
In the National Art Gallery of Canada there is literally a massive picture with two vertical red stripes on both sides and a blue vertical stripe in the middle. It cost 1.5 million$.
 

mento 2425

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my little sister was watching arthur, and they made up a famous artist who had a new piece that was accurately titled "Broken cracker on a plate."
in reality, i can confidently say that such a piece under a name that sounds famous would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 

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mr_rubino said:
danpascooch said:
Kirkby said:
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Traun said:
If games can be art so can this.
They are just a pile of 1s and 0s
Is the Mona Lisa just a pile of colourful paint?
Yes, yes it is
And with that, you've hit the "trying too hard" phase. You'd have done well to go back and explain yourself instead.
It was just a joke, personally I think the "it's just a pile of" is a weak argument.

Anything can be called a "pile of atoms" if you want to get technical.

The real question is whether it has any symbolism or visual merit, and this has none, it really looks like he just stacked some wood for thousands of dollars.
 

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My biggest wanker award went to the guy who painted an empty room and named it "The sound of silence" but this guy just took that award hands down.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
Escapist community on games as art:

Art is subjective and is designed to show emotion, everyone's definition of art is different and no one can say what is and is not art.

Escapist community's reaction to a piece of Dadaist art:

This is not art lololololololol!
+1

Anyway, isn't this classified under earthworks and not Dada? I thought the whole point of Dadaism was creating things that were considered "anti-art."

OT: Yes, it's art. Is it particularly good? No, not really--but then again, art doesn't need to be good.
 

Justank

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Digi7 said:
I wasn't talking about the story, I was talking about the visual tone. The story is great! I'll agree with that, but not all stories are art. Gears of War certainly isn't, and the developers acknowledge that too.

You really think there is depth to a storyline about steroid-pumped testosterone-spitting buffalo men wearing massive body armour and firing huge machine guns at slavering alien steroid-pumped testosterone-spitting buffalo men wearing massive body armour and firing huge machine guns, all whilst swearing at the top of their lungs and making stupid and immature jokes. WE HAVE TO PUT THIS BOMB IN THE GROUND SO IT BLOWS UP IT WILL BE FUCKING AWESOME. HECK YEAH LETS GO. BOOOM OBKBABHJASDHABABABABABAAABAABAAAA!!!! OH MY GOD IT'S A MASSIVE ALIEN LETS SHOOT IT.

No, not art.

Generic Gamer said:
Well there's matter of authorial control and of whether they were designed for utilitarian purposes or as a form of expression, but that's semantics. I more find it funny that people will tell everyone that art is wholly subjective and then deny that this is art.
I can roll with both of those explanations.
 

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Truer words were never spoken.

What is a picture? What is a sculpture? What is a building or a fountain? These things hold significance to us because we deemed them so. But when you break it down, to it's barest form, a picture is nothing more than a semblance of dried inks on a thin sheet of processed wood. A sculpture is no more or less than a hunk of material like marble or clay.

Is that pile of wood art? If I took it and made a face out of it, THEN is it art? The only person willing to completely define such an answer, and believe it is correct, is a person with too little respect for relativity, and too much time on their hands.
 

C-45

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Art is subjective you can't say what art really is because it's something different to every person. And while you may not want that hunk of wood it might be important to someone else. Though $5000 does seem like a lot ... but then again who am I to judge.