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Random Argument Man

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Eagle Est1986 said:
Random argument man said:
Well, I have to admit the switch to slasher film was a weak choice from the director. Which confused me since it's Danny Boyle. The master director of 28 days later, Slumdog Millionaire and Trainspotting.
Really? I quite enjoyed the switch, even if I was a little surprised to start with. I love that movie, it was beautiful.
Well, I don't know. It feels weak but at the same time, it's the only way I could imagine the story.
 

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Vanguard1219 said:
In Mass Effect it was never really explained why the Reapers continued their cycle of extinction over and over again. One of the party members suggested that they were "harvesting" the sentient races, but Sovereign itself simply said that it's reasoning was far beyond mortal comprehension. It came across as somewhat of a cop-out to me.
The answer is there, you just can't see it because it's beyond your comprehension.
I had just accepted the harvesting line to be honest, although thinking about it now, surely it'd be easier for the Reapers to not hibernate and simply spend that extra time making whatever it is that they are using the other species for?
Meh, maybe they just get kicks out of eliminating billions of organic life forms and then cleaning up after them.
 

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Random argument man said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Random argument man said:
Well, I have to admit the switch to slasher film was a weak choice from the director. Which confused me since it's Danny Boyle. The master director of 28 days later, Slumdog Millionaire and Trainspotting.
Really? I quite enjoyed the switch, even if I was a little surprised to start with. I love that movie, it was beautiful.
Well, I don't know. It feels weak but at the same time, it's the only way I could imagine the story.
Well, the alternative is that they get the spare bomb from the first ship without incident and then they go on to succesfully detonate it and "relight" the Sun. I don't think it would have quite had the same impact.
I do know what you mean though, it completely takes you out of the film for a few minutes, longer if you let it, but what else could have happened?
 

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Datalord said:
well, of course, How could a virus mutate its means of transference that quickly in Resident Evil?
Actually, pretty much any Zombie movie:How the FRICK is a zombie reanimated when the human body stops working for a good f*cking reason when you die.
Then the obvious LOTR one, why don't they ride the eagles to mordor?
Spaceballs, and every other spoof movie, 'nuf said
In Resident Evil, the virus mutating quickly is based in scientific fact. Many real life viruses do mutate very quickly, plus after all the experiments Umbrella were doing, I think it's safe to say that the virus wasn't like any natural one anyway. As for the reanimation, it wouldn't reanimate every single dead body it came into contact with, for example if you hid in a cemetery you'd be fine if you stayed away from the area with newly dug graves (incidentally that's where they are in the cemetery in RE: Apocalypse, outside the church). Again, it's based in science. After you die, the brain gives out electrical impulses and cells still multiply, even though the body itself stops working and you are, obviously, dead. This carries on for quite a while, perhaps a few months. The T-Virus simply converts the impulses to the same type of electrical signal that we use to function when alive, and literally rebuilds the biological system that keeps us alive. This could possibly happen should someone actually create a virus of that kind (remember that the T-Virus was a mutated strain of the virus used by an Umbrella researcher to cure his daughter's illness that was crippling her from birth). Note that I'm taking these facts from the films, the games still work in pretty much the same way, but have slight differences (e.g. the creator of the original T-Virus). I suppose if the T-Virus was infecting someone who had been beheaded or something, so the brain couldn't send the impulses anymore, or that had been dead for too long, then it would have no effect. That's actually why in most zombie fiction now (since now they mostly work on 'scientific zombies') they can be killed with severing the spinal column or destroying the head.

As for LOTR, it was based on the book, so the film needed to follow the book (although it made a bit of a mess of that, that said I preferred the films, couldn't really swallow the books, and I am a huge reader...). By using the Eagles, they would have ruined the potential for millions of pounds worth of profit with the whole film trilogy and all the merchandisng. Plus, the eagles would probably get tired after a while and need to rest, or maybe Sauron thought it would be the obvious choice so the allies had to outwit him, or something. Doesn't matter too much anyway, I enjoyed Helm's Deep and the Pelennor Fields.

Finally, spoof movies are meant to have plot holes. That's the whole point. It pokes fun at the serious films. (However, with the exception of Austin Powers and the first Scary Movie, spoof films are a load of crap anyway...).
 

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How long did it take for the Ents to get together to council?

How long did it take for them to arrive when treebeard summoned them to war?
 

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Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, book and movie. It was just one huge plot hole, even reading it as a kid I was just left thinking wtf!?

[spoiler/]why didn't the fake Mad Eye Moody (Barty Croach junior) just put the port key spell on Harry's shoes or his broom stick or something. It wouldn't have been hard to do. A hell of a lot easier than getting Harry though 3 huge mother fucking tests so he could touch the cup at the end. The port key spell could be cast on anything, we saw that at the beginning with the wellington boot and the old tire and so on that got everyone to the Quidich world cup. What the Hell!? [/spoiler]
 

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manicfoot said:
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videonerd250 said:
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Anyways, in Le Dark Knight (don't ask me why i say it like that... i just do) Noone "picked up Rachael" she left Bruce's manor and then they forgot about her
Wasn't the lady detective the one who "picked her up" (meaning kidnapped) and that's why two face wanted to kill her? Or are you talking about a different part of the movie?
Well Harvey was being transported to somewhere by a police officer... so he was "picked up"
But Rachael drove herself to ... wherever it was she was going to
She was on her way to Bruce's manor. You learn when two face interrogates the mob leader (think he's called San Moroni) that it was the female officer Anna Ramirez from Gordon's unit who gave her to the joker. Its possible that she overheard Rachel's conversation with Harvey and arranged for her capture.
no.... she was AT the manor, she gave Alfred her "I'm gonna marry Harvey" letter and then ... left

She didn't tell anyone, present company excluded (Alfred), just up and left. So how did they know that she was leaving the manor, why did she leave the manor, why was her acting so horrible in that movie?
 

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TheFacelessOne said:
WoW.

Dah fuck did Illidan survive at the end of Wc3?
Did he even die? He became a Demon, did crap for the burning legion, then went rogue and conquered uhm...that temple crap.
Then the big ass Kil'Jae I dunno what came to him and told him to kill Arthas.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
TheFacelessOne said:
WoW.

Dah fuck did Illidan survive at the end of Wc3?
Did he even die? He became a Demon, did crap for the burning legion, then went rogue and conquered uhm...that temple crap.
Then the big ass Kil'Jae I dunno what came to him and told him to kill Arthas.
he never actually dies in WoW either, when he's at like 1% life he runs away saying i'll get my revenge or something like that, been a while since i killed him
 

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rekabdarb said:
AndyFromMonday said:
TheFacelessOne said:
WoW.

Dah fuck did Illidan survive at the end of Wc3?
Did he even die? He became a Demon, did crap for the burning legion, then went rogue and conquered uhm...that temple crap.
Then the big ass Kil'Jae I dunno what came to him and told him to kill Arthas.
he never actually dies in WoW either, when he's at like 1% life he runs away saying i'll get my revenge or something like that, been a while since i killed him
No he actually dies in wow. He falls on the ground then that Night Elf chick comes around and they start talking shit, then the big winged dude dies and she see's the darker side of life, aka she becomes emo.
 

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rekabdarb said:
AndyFromMonday said:
TheFacelessOne said:
WoW.

Dah fuck did Illidan survive at the end of Wc3?
Did he even die? He became a Demon, did crap for the burning legion, then went rogue and conquered uhm...that temple crap.
Then the big ass Kil'Jae I dunno what came to him and told him to kill Arthas.
he never actually dies in WoW either, when he's at like 1% life he runs away saying i'll get my revenge or something like that, been a while since i killed him
Illidan turns into a half Demon by consuming the Skull of Gul'dan, defeats Tichondrius, attempts to destroy the Frozen Throne, but is stopped by Malfurion (his brother),saves Tyrande and then flees to Outland.

In Outland he defeats Mannoroth and seals the Legion portals onto the world with the help of Lady Vashj and her Naga, Kael'thas and his Blood Elves and Akama and his Broken. He fled to Outland because he realized that making a bargain with the Burning Legion (which he had done once before) was not the correct thing to do in the long run and was attempting to flee from Kil'jaedan. Kil'jaedan finds him anyway and tells Illidan to finish what he started so Illidan begrudgingly goes back to Azeroth to kill the Lich King.

On Azeroth he races to Icecrown and duels Arthas who by some dark dark miracle defeats Illidan and leaves him bleeding out in the snow, Illidan is then taken back to Outland and brought back to health. He DOES die in WoW, killed by Maiev Shadowsong (much cursing and raging on my part), his former jailor on Azeroth, but states that without her drive for vengeance her life has no meaning anymore.

I apologize for the long post.
 

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Adam Jenson said:
Transformers, when Bumblebee takes the shot that blows his legs off. he's still holding the motherf#$kin' All Spark. Apparently this thing able to fix any Transformer that it comes in contact with (Frenzy was able to restore his body just by standing in front of it). So how come it didn't work its magic on Bumblebee?!
or jazz for that matter, when megatron tore him in half.
 

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BladesofReason said:
rekabdarb said:
AndyFromMonday said:
TheFacelessOne said:
WoW.

Dah fuck did Illidan survive at the end of Wc3?
Did he even die? He became a Demon, did crap for the burning legion, then went rogue and conquered uhm...that temple crap.
Then the big ass Kil'Jae I dunno what came to him and told him to kill Arthas.
he never actually dies in WoW either, when he's at like 1% life he runs away saying i'll get my revenge or something like that, been a while since i killed him
Illidan turns into a half Demon by consuming the Skull of Gul'dan, defeats Tichondrius, attempts to destroy the Frozen Throne, but is stopped by Malfurion (his brother),saves Tyrande and then flees to Outland.

In Outland he defeats Mannoroth and seals the Legion portals onto the world with the help of Lady Vashj and her Naga, Kael'thas and his Blood Elves and Akama and his Broken. He fled to Outland because he realized that making a bargain with the Burning Legion (which he had done once before) was not the correct thing to do in the long run and was attempting to flee from Kil'jaedan. Kil'jaedan finds him anyway and tells Illidan to finish what he started so Illidan begrudgingly goes back to Azeroth to kill the Lich King.

On Azeroth he races to Icecrown and duels Arthas who by some dark dark miracle defeats Illidan and leaves him bleeding out in the snow, Illidan is then taken back to Outland and brought back to health. He DOES die in WoW, killed by Maiev Shadowsong (much cursing and raging on my part), his former jailor on Azeroth, but states that without her drive for vengeance her life has no meaning anymore.

I apologize for the long post.
yeah... i'm kind of aware of all of that >.>
 

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mastertang said:
rekabdarb said:
jebussaves88 said:
I would say one of the most confusing is the fact that Leia knew her mother and described her in return of the Jedi, despite the fact that Padme died at the end of Revenge of the Sith.
remember... Return of the Jedi was made... 20ish years BEFORE SITH..that horrible horrible movie
Clearly a screw up in sith. Hey sith is an anogram for...

It's also never made clear why obi-wan doesn't just finish him off. He never seem the cruel type before.
Because Mr. Lucas NEEDS THE MONEY
 

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Trivun said:
Datalord said:
well, of course, How could a virus mutate its means of transference that quickly in Resident Evil?
Actually, pretty much any Zombie movie:How the FRICK is a zombie reanimated when the human body stops working for a good f*cking reason when you die.
Then the obvious LOTR one, why don't they ride the eagles to mordor?
Spaceballs, and every other spoof movie, 'nuf said
In Resident Evil, the virus mutating quickly is based in scientific fact. Many real life viruses do mutate very quickly, plus after all the experiments Umbrella were doing, I think it's safe to say that the virus wasn't like any natural one anyway. As for the reanimation, it wouldn't reanimate every single dead body it came into contact with, for example if you hid in a cemetery you'd be fine if you stayed away from the area with newly dug graves (incidentally that's where they are in the cemetery in RE: Apocalypse, outside the church). Again, it's based in science. After you die, the brain gives out electrical impulses and cells still multiply, even though the body itself stops working and you are, obviously, dead. This carries on for quite a while, perhaps a few months. The T-Virus simply converts the impulses to the same type of electrical signal that we use to function when alive, and literally rebuilds the biological system that keeps us alive. This could possibly happen should someone actually create a virus of that kind (remember that the T-Virus was a mutated strain of the virus used by an Umbrella researcher to cure his daughter's illness that was crippling her from birth). Note that I'm taking these facts from the films, the games still work in pretty much the same way, but have slight differences (e.g. the creator of the original T-Virus). I suppose if the T-Virus was infecting someone who had been beheaded or something, so the brain couldn't send the impulses anymore, or that had been dead for too long, then it would have no effect. That's actually why in most zombie fiction now (since now they mostly work on 'scientific zombies') they can be killed with severing the spinal column or destroying the head.

As for LOTR, it was based on the book, so the film needed to follow the book (although it made a bit of a mess of that, that said I preferred the films, couldn't really swallow the books, and I am a huge reader...). By using the Eagles, they would have ruined the potential for millions of pounds worth of profit with the whole film trilogy and all the merchandisng. Plus, the eagles would probably get tired after a while and need to rest, or maybe Sauron thought it would be the obvious choice so the allies had to outwit him, or something. Doesn't matter too much anyway, I enjoyed Helm's Deep and the Pelennor Fields.

Finally, spoof movies are meant to have plot holes. That's the whole point. It pokes fun at the serious films. (However, with the exception of Austin Powers and the first Scary Movie, spoof films are a load of crap anyway...).
but when they are in the church burial grounds, alot of those bodies that reanimate look like they have been dead for years! no not look like, they were dead for years, you could tell by the advanced decay. They counter their own explanation within the movie.
 

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Drake the Dragonheart said:
Trivun said:
Datalord said:
well, of course, How could a virus mutate its means of transference that quickly in Resident Evil?
Actually, pretty much any Zombie movie:How the FRICK is a zombie reanimated when the human body stops working for a good f*cking reason when you die.
Then the obvious LOTR one, why don't they ride the eagles to mordor?
Spaceballs, and every other spoof movie, 'nuf said
In Resident Evil, the virus mutating quickly is based in scientific fact. Many real life viruses do mutate very quickly, plus after all the experiments Umbrella were doing, I think it's safe to say that the virus wasn't like any natural one anyway. As for the reanimation, it wouldn't reanimate every single dead body it came into contact with, for example if you hid in a cemetery you'd be fine if you stayed away from the area with newly dug graves (incidentally that's where they are in the cemetery in RE: Apocalypse, outside the church). Again, it's based in science. After you die, the brain gives out electrical impulses and cells still multiply, even though the body itself stops working and you are, obviously, dead. This carries on for quite a while, perhaps a few months. The T-Virus simply converts the impulses to the same type of electrical signal that we use to function when alive, and literally rebuilds the biological system that keeps us alive. This could possibly happen should someone actually create a virus of that kind (remember that the T-Virus was a mutated strain of the virus used by an Umbrella researcher to cure his daughter's illness that was crippling her from birth). Note that I'm taking these facts from the films, the games still work in pretty much the same way, but have slight differences (e.g. the creator of the original T-Virus). I suppose if the T-Virus was infecting someone who had been beheaded or something, so the brain couldn't send the impulses anymore, or that had been dead for too long, then it would have no effect. That's actually why in most zombie fiction now (since now they mostly work on 'scientific zombies') they can be killed with severing the spinal column or destroying the head.

As for LOTR, it was based on the book, so the film needed to follow the book (although it made a bit of a mess of that, that said I preferred the films, couldn't really swallow the books, and I am a huge reader...). By using the Eagles, they would have ruined the potential for millions of pounds worth of profit with the whole film trilogy and all the merchandisng. Plus, the eagles would probably get tired after a while and need to rest, or maybe Sauron thought it would be the obvious choice so the allies had to outwit him, or something. Doesn't matter too much anyway, I enjoyed Helm's Deep and the Pelennor Fields.

Finally, spoof movies are meant to have plot holes. That's the whole point. It pokes fun at the serious films. (However, with the exception of Austin Powers and the first Scary Movie, spoof films are a load of crap anyway...).
but when they are in the church burial grounds, alot of those bodies that reanimate look like they have been dead for years! no not look like, they were dead for years, you could tell by the advanced decay. They counter their own explanation within the movie.
I suppose you've got a point there. In general that explanation is pretty much given in the movies (by the Red Queen) and in the games (through various Umbrella research notes and so on). However, the second film (best of the three, in my opinion, although they were all good) does sort of contradict itself. I can't think of anything there so that is a bit of a plot hole in itself, I suppose...

That said, as I mentioned, I quite liked the films. That's partly due to the fact I like Paul Anderson as a director. However, thinking about it, how many plot holes would there be if Uwe Boll had directed them? (Actually, make that it, he wouldn't have got the money from Hollywood for Apocalypse and Extinction...). That's enough for a thread all on its own...
 

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Longshot said:
How long did it take for the Ents to get together to council?

How long did it take for them to arrive when treebeard summoned them to war?
Ents can actually move very fast when needed.


SomeBritishDude said:
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, book and movie. It was just one huge plot hole, even reading it as a kid I was just left thinking wtf!?

[spoiler/]why didn't the fake Mad Eye Moody (Barty Croach junior) just put the port key spell on Harry's shoes or his broom stick or something. It wouldn't have been hard to do. A hell of a lot easier than getting Harry though 3 huge mother fucking tests so he could touch the cup at the end. The port key spell could be cast on anything, we saw that at the beginning with the wellington boot and the old tire and so on that got everyone to the Quidich world cup. What the Hell!? [/spoiler]
I do believe (but don't quote me on this) that the potion that Voldemort needed to return to life took that year to locate/prepare/create. So the Fake Moody stalled up until the end of the year and then sent him to the graveyard.