Plot Holes [Possible Spoilers!]

[Soren91]

Spoiler: Star Wars, Revenge of the Sith

Why didn't the summon all the Jedi to the temple first, instead of having the beacon put in place afterwords, leading to a galactic manhunt. Fewer would have gotten away

Simple really.

a) Plot holes in the original movies.

b)

Spoiler

Every Jedi who was not at the temple was with the armies. Order 66 ensured that those armies turned upon their Jedi generals, killing them off with far superior numbers

c) Recalling every Jedi to the temple would have resulted in the following: The Jedi united, at their homeground. The clone armies were needed elsewhere, for publicity stunt if nothing else, but more likely to stave off any possible idea of a rebellion. Declaring that the supreme chancellor is talking BS is a lot more difficult if a clone-trooper armada is just 2 hours away from your planet, instead of few weeks.

So no massive numbers of politically expendable troops available to take on what is the most efficient group of fighters in the galaxy, while they are united and at their home ground. The publicity backlash would have been more abhorrent as well: the fighting would not have been over in an hour or two like it was, but would have been protracted for severals hours or even days. During this time the Jedi would have most certainly used the temple communications equipment to transmit their counter-propaganda, as well as pictures of childs and padawans getting slaughtered by the imperial troops.

Thank you for doing my job for me good sir. Also, I'm pretty sure that more than Obi-Wan and Yoda survived, at least initially.

 

[MR T3D]

For example, I don't understand fully why Shepard betrayed Task Force 141 in CoDMW2. I know it was to increase recruits and nationalism, but why did he kill British soldiers?

Can someone explain this to me?

Spoiler

Shepard was behind the whole fiasco: he leaked the intel on the undercover operative in the mission 'No Russian' (airport shooting), he was the mastermind who laid the groundwork for the war and provided the opening spark. Task Force 141 was getting close to uncovering this, and in fact did (albeit around 5 minutes too late). Shepard could not allow the knowledge of his actions, along with the necessary proof, to reach the ears of any high-ranking officer: that would have screwed over his entire plan, as he would not have become the praised war-hero. The fastest and easiest way for Shepard that guaranteed the USA high-command would never hear of his duplicity was to kill off the members of Task Force 141 the way he did: go in, execute them, make up a story of coming in too late to save them, say a few nice words and everyone will say they are sorry you just lost such a good bunch of soldiers.

Thank you, I have been wondering that.

Spoiler

So your saying that shepard planned the No Russian mission and made sure that allen got killed to start the war?

here's a new hole in the patch of the hole:

Spoiler: MW2 spoiler

why was he, a man whom's main force was annihilated in the blink of a eye, something that could easily (and did) warp one's mind even put in charge of the two most badass BRITISH soldiers evar whom failed by a short period of time to give intel that would have saved HIS men...
and really, why would be become the national hero? wouldn't the commander of the national guard shine here, or more likely, the brave commander(s) whom would have rose above and beyond the call of duty in the extraordinary situation..?
he couldn't be any more a hero than Teddy Roosevelt...shit, wait, teddy's fucking badass though, Sheppard's got nothing on him.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Spoiler: Star Wars, Revenge of the Sith

Why didn't the summon all the Jedi to the temple first, instead of having the beacon put in place afterwords, leading to a galactic manhunt. Fewer would have gotten away

Considering the only Jedi that survived were Obi-won and Yoda, I'd say their plan was pretty successful.

To bad those two Jedi are the reason the Empire fell.


So I'd say it wasn't.

No, the Rebel Alliance as a group is the reason the Empire Fell.

The Rebel Alliance would have failed without Luke Skywalker. If Luke hadn't found Han Solo, he wouldn't have helped the Alliance. Darth Vader and the Emperor would have lived, the Death Star wouldn't have been blown up. So they brought Luke Skywalker up.

YEAH, I THINK IT WAS THOSE 2.

Not by themselves though. And this debate is pointless.

 

[hittite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU

Damn eagles too busy off cleaning their feathers for most of the story.

Wouldn't the eagles simply have been attacked by the wraithlords on their flying.. thingies?
Also, wouldn't the eagles also have been corrupted by the ring? I thought that hobbits were supposed to be espcially resistant to the ring. Yes they are corrupted by it over time, but the eagles would of been corrupted much, much quicker, delivering the ring straight to sauron.

The Ringwraiths were limping home slowly at the time. Also, since Frodo was carrying the Ring, he would be the only one being corrupted. Also, the corruption was a long and slow process that was sped up by fatigue, weakness, and proximity to Mordor. Since they only took 15 minutes to get there and they rode the whole way, the Ring wouldn't have had time to drive him crazy. It still would have been hard to drop it, but not impossible.

edit: I am SUCH a nerd.

 

[DethVanXan]

About Twilight.
It's hard to find any plot holes in both the movies and books. Which sounds impressive, until you realize that there has to be a plot first. No plot = No plot holes.
You'd think that millions of hump sucking drones who follow this collection of Meye's personal wanking material, would catch onto this little mistake. But no, it turns out.

 

[The_Healer]

Hmm shall we start on 2012?

Yes, I think so.

Firstly, neutrinos do not interact with matter. It makes the entire premise of the movie irrelevant but that's just one of those things in Hollywood.

Secondly, the tidal wave was said to be 1500 meters high. Everest is 8000 meters high. How did the water get up there? Who knows?

Thirdly, where did all that water come from? It didn't drain straight away so it must be a solid body of water that is at least 6000 meters on top of the pre-disaster sea level. Lets not do the maths on that one, the volume of water just isn't on the earth.

Woo for 2012.

 

[Arcticflame]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU

Damn eagles too busy off cleaning their feathers for most of the story.

Wouldn't the eagles simply have been attacked by the wraithlords on their flying.. thingies?
Also, wouldn't the eagles also have been corrupted by the ring? I thought that hobbits were supposed to be espcially resistant to the ring. Yes they are corrupted by it over time, but the eagles would of been corrupted much, much quicker, delivering the ring straight to sauron.

The Ringwraiths were limping home slowly at the time. Also, since Frodo was carrying the Ring, he would be the only one being corrupted. Also, the corruption was a long and slow process that was sped up by fatigue, weakness, and proximity to Mordor. Since they only took 15 minutes to get there and they rode the whole way, the Ring wouldn't have had time to drive him crazy. It still would have been hard to drop it, but not impossible.

edit: I am SUCH a nerd.

Boromir was corrupted without directly carrying the ring.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Twilight saga. Just... the whole saga.

How could so many teenage girls overlook all this stuff?

Not exactly a plot hole but an 18 year old falls in love with a three year old...so... yeah.

No no no, the whole thing IS a plot hole. How can the Vampires constantly change their identities? Why is there no sun AT ALL ever in that little city? Not to mention that Stephene Meyer pulls a deaus ex machina every third chapter, making even more plot holes. Confused!

 

[Cherry Cola]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqVD0swvWU

Damn eagles too busy off cleaning their feathers for most of the story.

Wouldn't the eagles simply have been attacked by the wraithlords on their flying.. thingies?
Also, wouldn't the eagles also have been corrupted by the ring? I thought that hobbits were supposed to be espcially resistant to the ring. Yes they are corrupted by it over time, but the eagles would of been corrupted much, much quicker, delivering the ring straight to sauron.

The Ringwraiths were limping home slowly at the time. Also, since Frodo was carrying the Ring, he would be the only one being corrupted. Also, the corruption was a long and slow process that was sped up by fatigue, weakness, and proximity to Mordor. Since they only took 15 minutes to get there and they rode the whole way, the Ring wouldn't have had time to drive him crazy. It still would have been hard to drop it, but not impossible.

edit: I am SUCH a nerd.

Boromir was corrupted without directly carrying the ring.

But he was exposed to it. He held it.

 

[Puzzles]

Boromir was corrupted without directly carrying the ring.

But he was exposed to it. He held it.

Agreed. Plus, I feel as if eagles aren't that big into jewelry on their talons.

Harry Potter and the lack of guns. Seriously, one gun would have ended most of the conflicts.

 

[SonicKoala]

I never understood why in District 9 the aliens were such wimps and never fought back against their human oppressors, despite the fact they had a gi-normous ship (which undoubtedly would be filled with totally awesome alien technology), far better weapons (despite looking like fancy Nerf guns), and they were extremely strong and agile - and there was apparently A QUARTER OF A MILLION OF THEM.

 

[TZer0]

Huuuuuge plot-hole here.

Spoiler: Law Abiding Citizen

If he's so veeeery dangerous, why didn't they install a camera in his cell.. or made a guard watch him all the time. It would've resolved everything so easily and fewer people would've died.

 

[Arcticflame]

But he was exposed to it. He held it.

What about gollum (Smeagol)? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that he strangled the guy when he hadn't even't touched it yet.

 

[Deleted]

What I always wondered was in Deathnote when Mikami comes at the end and finishes the series, why'd he come in the first place? Did Light tell him to, I don't remember him being told about the meeting. How did everyone know Mikami was gonna arrive.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

For example, I don't understand fully why Shepard betrayed Task Force 141 in CoDMW2. I know it was to increase recruits and nationalism, but why did he kill British soldiers?

Can someone explain this to me?

Spoiler

Shepard was behind the whole fiasco: he leaked the intel on the undercover operative in the mission 'No Russian' (airport shooting), he was the mastermind who laid the groundwork for the war and provided the opening spark. Task Force 141 was getting close to uncovering this, and in fact did (albeit around 5 minutes too late). Shepard could not allow the knowledge of his actions, along with the necessary proof, to reach the ears of any high-ranking officer: that would have screwed over his entire plan, as he would not have become the praised war-hero. The fastest and easiest way for Shepard that guaranteed the USA high-command would never hear of his duplicity was to kill off the members of Task Force 141 the way he did: go in, execute them, make up a story of coming in too late to save them, say a few nice words and everyone will say they are sorry you just lost such a good bunch of soldiers.

Oh, ok thank you I get that now. But I'm still wondering why he started everything? Just so he could get more recruits and be a hero, since he lost so many men 5 years ago?

 

[j0z]

Spoiler: 9 spoiler

If the soul catcher thingy was meant to give the machines a soul so they wouldn't do bad things, then why is it that when Spider-HAL sucked the soul everyone, it didn't stop? And if it sucked out all of parts of the dude's soul, it would be ok? And I think it was in a better position to rebuild the world than some sack people.

 

[Zacharine]

For example, I don't understand fully why Shepard betrayed Task Force 141 in CoDMW2. I know it was to increase recruits and nationalism, but why did he kill British soldiers?

Can someone explain this to me?

Spoiler

Shepard was behind the whole fiasco: he leaked the intel on the undercover operative in the mission 'No Russian' (airport shooting), he was the mastermind who laid the groundwork for the war and provided the opening spark. Task Force 141 was getting close to uncovering this, and in fact did (albeit around 5 minutes too late). Shepard could not allow the knowledge of his actions, along with the necessary proof, to reach the ears of any high-ranking officer: that would have screwed over his entire plan, as he would not have become the praised war-hero. The fastest and easiest way for Shepard that guaranteed the USA high-command would never hear of his duplicity was to kill off the members of Task Force 141 the way he did: go in, execute them, make up a story of coming in too late to save them, say a few nice words and everyone will say they are sorry you just lost such a good bunch of soldiers.

Oh, ok thank you I get that now. But I'm still wondering why he started everything? Just so he could get more recruits and be a hero, since he lost so many men 5 years ago?

I'm thinking it's because he flipped. He lost a whole bunch of troops in the name of protecting his country and what did the civilians and press do? Nothing. No recognition for the fallen, no 'this is a tragedy' newslines, no memorial, nothing. And yet, when a dozen civilians die, the headlines are all over it and national sympathy is just overpouring.

He couldn't stand this and lost a few important screws in the head. He wanted to teach the american nation that soldiers are humans as well and thus have value. Start a war where the Americans are the ones being attacked, and people will flock in as volunteers. Once they have been in the action so to speak, they will not dare dishonor soldiers or treat them as mere numbers. Because they would have been there and would know the war for the hell it is.

 

[aarontg]

You know, all of that could have bin avoided if ghost was faster on the draw. And I never understood why you couldent just gun down makarov and his crew befor he killed anyone, instead you just had to roll with it.......and then get shot in the head and killed!