Plot Holes [Possible Spoilers!]

[Axeli]

Valkyria Chronicles has probably more than I can remember, but here's couple.

Spoiler

After almost the entire Gallian army is annihilated they roll in an enormous tank, which Alicia engages in battle and is clearly out-maneuvering it (the thing about oversized tanks: They don't really turn) and actually shoots right through its otherwise impenetrable armour... Then decides she has to turn herself into a human nuke to be able to destroy it.

What?

Welking of course manages convince her to not sacrifice herself... Or use her powers at all in the coming battle. Even after the Maximillian gives himself artifical Valkyre superpowers and turns the mega-tank into a nuke cannon (and fires is it).

What?

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

Twilight saga. Just... the whole saga.

How could so many teenage girls overlook all this stuff?

ITS TRUE LOVE!!!VAMPIRES R HOT!!1!1!!!

There is you answer. The scary, scary answer.

halo wars:
WHY THE FUCK WAS THE FLOOD THERE?!

You really should have a spoiler tag here. But anyway, thousands of years before Halo takes place, there was a massive war between the Forunners, and Gravemind-led flood. Since it was controlled by a Gravemind, it would have resulted in direct attacks on Forunner planets. Therefor, the shield world in HW(which, if you couldn't tell, was a Forunner installation) would have been attacked by the Flood in the war. After Flood consume everything in an area, they attempt to move on. If they can't (as they were stranded-no ships) they go into hibernation until more pray comes into the area. That is the same reason the Flood on the rings where still numerous: They didn't disappear after the war, they hibernated.

I never understood why in District 9 the aliens were such wimps and never fought back against their human oppressors, despite the fact they had a gi-normous ship (which undoubtedly would be filled with totally awesome alien technology), far better weapons (despite looking like fancy Nerf guns), and they were extremely strong and agile - and there was apparently A QUARTER OF A MILLION OF THEM.

Well that is a good point. infact, after we saw the movie, we actually debated for a while different plot points. But here is the conclusion we came to: They wern't hostile, and they knew fighting back would get them killed.

First of all, the ship. When the ship arrived, the control hub fell off. Note how they never left the ship, but rather they were brought out by humans who had to actualy carve into it. So the ship could very well have been like the one from Independance Day, but they had no means of controlling it.

Second, they were uneducated, and they wern't allowed to see the "High living" of humans because they were confined to D-9, and even if they got out they ended up in some generic Africa city. A slum wouldn't seem to out of place to them, and they wouldn't be able to see anything much different from where they were.

Third, about the weapons/agility. Like I said, they didn't seem very hostile. Yes the brought weapons, but they didn't use them. And even though there was a quater million of them, that would be a drop in the bucket to the 6 billion humans on earth. Hell, even the city they were cituated in probably had a few million people. And MNU was fighting them with things like shotguns and mean words. If they really wanted to just destroy the Prawn, they would roll in their with tanks and air support and just start blasting shit.

 

[FalloutJack]

Any case where a timeloop is involved. You see, when a timeloop is involved, you have some future event cause a past one and we're all just caught in the middle of it, doomed to play it out in some form or enough. This happened in Blazblue, and while I don't have a problem with it...it can't work. The loop had to start from somewhere, and the event that keeps making it happen CAN'T have been the real cause, because the loop didn't exist before Event-X. It just didn't.

 

[orangebandguy]

What is the point of Serious Sam? The unfillable plothole.

 

[clipse15]

Here's a plot holes for you (paraphrased for space)

Return of the Jedi:

Luke: Do you remember your mother?
Leia: Yeah. She died when I was very young.

Damn that woman had a great memory, considering the end of Revenge of the Sith and how freakin young she was.

Also making a case for sloppy (read: bad) writing causing plot holes, I present the recent Doctor Who special (again paraphrased)

Spoiler

Dr: Hey, I'm gonna change the course of history when I know I shouldn't, regardless of the fact it could change the course of history forever and cause multiple universe imploding paradoxes.


Leia obviously had an adopted family like Luke had an adoptive family so the mother she was referring to was her adoptive mother.

 

[Lucane]

Valkyria Chronicles has probably more than I can remember, but here's couple.

Spoiler

After almost the entire Gallian army is annihilated they roll in an enormous tank, which Alicia engages in battle and is clearly out-maneuvering it (the thing about oversized tanks: They don't really turn) and actually shoots right through its otherwise impenetrable armour... Then decides she has to turn herself into a human nuke to be able to destroy it.

What?

Welking of course manages convince her to not sacrifice herself... Or use her powers at all in the coming battle. Even after the Maximillian gives himself artifical Valkyre superpowers and turns the mega-tank into a nuke cannon (and fires is it).

What?

Well if you recall Alicia had to "throw" her Ragnite Lance at the Marmota to put that hole in it her powers are magnified by the lance and shield with out it or what ever Selvaria did/learned to channel the power on her own, then her only other choice would be the Valkyrur's Flame (Granted thinking about it I guess the experiments to Selvaria are probaly the reason she can tap into her powers more freely and why her hair is always light blue.)
... Sorta like when Goku could go Super Sayian started out as an emotionial trigger before he could just make it happen at will.

 

[Wayte]

Twilight saga. Just... the whole saga.

How could so many teenage girls overlook all this stuff?

I just found a perfect quote for this

The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.
- Sir William Osler

 

[messy]

Spoiler

How do sterile Vampires get thier Human girlfriends preggers?

I've not read the books, but heard enough about about this paticular plothole to want an explanation.

Spoiler

The way I understood it, he was still fertile, it just the females become sterile. Their bodies can't change in the way a pregnancy would require. The males, however, could still feasibly produce viable sperm. They have to replenish venom and process nourishment, so some biological activity still must be going on. Since this is a fantasy style novel, there is no reason to assume it is impossible.

While your explanation might just make sense, Stephanie Meyer's offical word on the subject is actually less plausible.

Spoiler

Vampire males continue to have semen stored in their testicles, which when heated to core body temperature of a normal human, 'reactivates' the semen and allows it to impregnate a fertile human female. I'm just going to leave biologist to gnash their teeth and cry over that little announcement.

See it'd be fine if she just explained it was magic but its the attempt of making it "scientific" that bugs me. Also claims they are eternally cold (thermodynamics fail) so surely he'd just drain the heat from Bella eternally and she'd die, also the heat require to heat up just the testicles to 37.5 degrees is going to take a lot of energy, especially considering it'd be dispersed around the entire body.

 

[SonicKoala]

I never understood why in District 9 the aliens were such wimps and never fought back against their human oppressors, despite the fact they had a gi-normous ship (which undoubtedly would be filled with totally awesome alien technology), far better weapons (despite looking like fancy Nerf guns), and they were extremely strong and agile - and there was apparently A QUARTER OF A MILLION OF THEM.

There is an answer to that, but unfortunately it just opens another holes

Spoiler

It is implied throughout the movie that just about every living prawn on earth was a "worker" or "drone", while the more intelligent aliens seemed to have died prior to the arrival on earth (with the exception of at least Christopher). For one thing, they may be just too "dumb" to use their weapons (although that is not likely, since you see prawns using human weapons and even one commanding one of the mechs).
More likely all the aliens are used to have a strict, insect-like chain of command, and as thier "leaders" died, they were very confused and frightened and pretty much unable to do a bit of thinking of their own, so they are easily ordered around by the seemingly helpful humans...

But i'd like to add a bit of my own theory

Spoiler

First off, as said, the Humans USED to be helpful and nice to the aliens at first. And since the aliens have no idea about anything regarding earth, they just know what the humans allowed them to see. And the aliens were probably too grateful and naive to start to think about how they can make themselves autonomous. So as the humans became more abusive, the aliens were pretty much completely dependent on their new Human Overlords (*g*)
And second, so yes, there are a quarter million aliens with awesome, powerful weapons. That still does not make them invincible. They don't have impenetrable shields or something, so the first thing the humans probably do when the aliens start to turn against them is to blow them away with a few bombers. Since the humans outnumber the aliens by far, and since the aliens are stored conveniently at one place, a "prawn resistance" would hardly survive for a month

Since this is the best thought out of the freaking 5 responses I got to my D-9 comment, I'll respond to this one (wow, people love that movie). Alright, I suppose I can accept your explanation, but then that would just change my opinion from this being a "plot hole" to just being a pretty shitty story, and then my biggest question would be how did all the intelligent aliens die? But my biggest problem I have with that response is that so many people praise D-9 because of its "deeper meaning" and social commentary on apartheid - and how is this conveyed? By using a bunch of idiotic alien drones as the substitute for the actual human beings who suffered in the past. Wow, how profound.

 

[twistedmic]

Leia obviously had an adopted family like Luke had an adoptive family so the mother she was referring to was her adoptive mother.

Or it could be that Lucas forgot that particular comment when he wrote the new trilogy. That wouldn't be the first time he contradicted himself in the new trilogy. Obi-Wan claims that Yoda was the Jedi that trained him, then in Phantom Menace Obi-Wan's master is Qui-Gon

 

[dragontiers]

Leia obviously had an adopted family like Luke had an adoptive family so the mother she was referring to was her adoptive mother.

Or it could be that Lucas forgot that particular comment when he wrote the new trilogy. That wouldn't be the first time he contradicted himself in the new trilogy. Obi-Wan claims that Yoda was the Jedi that trained him, then in Phantom Menace Obi-Wan's master is Qui-Gon

They try to patch that one up by claiming Yoda trains all the young padawans, hence the scene where Obi-Wan goes to him about the "missing" planet.

 

[darkless]

Here's a plot holes for you (paraphrased for space)

Return of the Jedi:

Luke: Do you remember your mother?
Leia: Yeah. She died when I was very young.

Damn that woman had a great memory, considering the end of Revenge of the Sith and how freakin young she was.

Also making a case for sloppy (read: bad) writing causing plot holes, I present the recent Doctor Who special (again paraphrased)

Spoiler

Dr: Hey, I'm gonna change the course of history when I know I shouldn't, regardless of the fact it could change the course of history forever and cause multiple universe imploding paradoxes.

Should be dead lady: Hey, didn't Rose try and do this in Season 1 and the whole world got eaten by paradox monsters? And why are you completely out of character? *dies anyway*

How annoying.

He didn't create a paradox there, the reason rose created a paradox is because she saved her father while she was 3 months old, no such thing happened in the latest doctor who episode

 

[Wicky_42]

Oooh, I got a good one - and it doesn't really need spoilers!

Aliens, that famous Newt line "They mostly come out at night... Mostly" - sounds pretty ominous, right? Then you remember the briefing: The planet has a rotational time of JUST OVER 2 HOURS... that means it's night every other hour (IIRC, of course . Christ are those energetic aliens

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

Spoiler: Halo 2-3

Why did the Prophets betray the Elites? The Elites still served vary well when they were...'Replaced'...all it did was give the Covenant another enemy to fight.

In the books there were many elites who were questioning why humans were not allowed into the covenant. The prophets knew that the elites were too smart and knew that they'd break away eventually. Also, since the elites were smarter, the prophets didn't want anyone challenging their godliness after they started the great journey. So, they used the assassination of Regret as a scapegoat to replace the elites with a more mindless and obedient race who felt less sympathy with humans. And if you were going to state a plot hole with Halo 2-3, why didn't you question why the grunts/hunters are still with the loyalists.

Ah alright thanks. And I was kind of inclined to believe that some Grunts/hunters would jump ship, but most would stay loyal.

 

[Darth Pope]

I've got one that's bugged me for a long time.

Spoiler: DMC 3 Spoiler

In Devil May Cry 3 when Arkham releases Timen Ni Gru with Lady's blood, why does he slash her leg rather than stabbing her through the chest and eliminating a threat?

Although I thought it was a cool detail that Lady had a dressing where Arkham slashed her leg open for the rest of the game, and in DMC 4 she has a scar there.

 

[Spike815]

Another District 9 question:

Spoiler

How did the aliens get all those guns? It clearly stated that humans had to cut into the ship and take them off in helicopters, so were they allowed to just carry their fancy rayguns out with them? How did they manage to smuggle a huge freakin' mecha suit into a helicopter and then into the district? Ignoring the fact that they traded the mecha for catfood. (Are they really THAT stupid? That's like trading a tank for some cocaine, you could just take it.)

 

[manaman]

*snippity*


That's sure not the impression I got.

It was the great Jedi purge [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge], many survived order 66 to be hunted down during the intervening years, and some renounced the order. Only a handful where left by the time Luke started training more Jedi and the order got going again.

You can click the link in the above test to read more. The movies are only mediocre compared to the rest of the extended universe.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

*snippity*


That's sure not the impression I got.

It was the great Jedi purge [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge], many survived order 66 to be hunted down during the intervening years, and some renounced the order. Only a handful where left by the time Luke started training more Jedi and the order got going again.

You can click the link in the above test to read more. The movies are only mediocre compared to the rest of the extended universe.

*shrug* Still as far as evil plans go, I'd say Palpatine's plan to get rid of the Jedi and seize power was quite ingenious.