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Of course. You people always have some stupid excuse to keep yourself alive. You also always have some reason to not get off your ass and help people. And your excuse for not helping people is not even an excuse. You can still do volunteer work and generally work towards a better society. But of course you won't do that, because you're just like every other selfish person that says humanity should be destroyed.
There's no reason to, since it won't change anything. Although you could say that it might be good to do if you want to be remebered as "someone who helped". I have no wish to be remembered by such a disgusting species anyway. There's no point in being the one person who did things right, when the rest won't change for the better.

Still, I do work up for my final punchline. I sit by and give people advice on how they could do in order to change things for the better. Even though I know on beforehand that they won't do it, simply because human nature is way to predicatble.

It's quite entertaining actually. : )

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If the world does end, it's because of pessimistic people that do nothing to help anyone.
The world won't end, it will orbit around the sun like it always does. Humanity might end though, and if what you're saying is true then im doing exactly the right thing in not helping anyone out.

It's just a speck of bio matter on the earth's surface. No one's gonna miss it...
 

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No, you don't get it, they're too aloof to help any of us lowly peasents with our meaningless lives, scuttling around on this doomed planet, harming and killing each other. We're not worthy of their divine contribution.
It's refreshing with such clarity and honesty.

You're right, you're not worthy of any divine contribution. So live out your life in the bliss of ignorance of what a useless and sigusting species we all belong to.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Internet Kraken said:
Of course. You people always have some stupid excuse to keep yourself alive. You also always have some reason to not get off your ass and help people. And your excuse for not helping people is not even an excuse. You can still do volunteer work and generally work towards a better society. But of course you won't do that, because you're just like every other selfish person that says humanity should be destroyed.
There's no reason to, since it won't change anything. Although you could say that it might be good to do if you want to be remebered as "someone who helped". I have no wish to be remembered by such a disgusting species anyway. There's no point in being the one person who did things right, when the rest won't change for the better.

Still, I do work up for my final punchline. I sit by and give people advice on how they could do in order to change things for the better. Even though I know on beforehand that they won't do it, simply because human nature is way to predicatble.

It's quite entertaining actually. : )

Internet Kraken said:
If the world does end, it's because of pessimistic people that do nothing to help anyone.
The world won't end, it will orbit around the sun like it always does. Humanity might end though, and if what you're saying is true then im doing exactly the right thing in not helping anyone out.

It's just a speck of bio matter on the earth's surface. No one's gonna miss it...
So you just sit around and give people advice on how they could change things"? That doesn't help anyone, especially since your advice is most likely horrible. And it's funny that you say nobody follows your advice, when you probably don't even follow it.

Oh and there's no reason to help anyone because it won't change anything? That's exactly why you people will be the death of humans. You don't think helping anyone does anything. If everyone who thought like that actually got up and helped someone, the world would be a better place.

Housebroken Lunatic said:
Skeleon said:
No, you don't get it, they're too aloof to help any of us lowly peasents with our meaningless lives, scuttling around on this doomed planet, harming and killing each other. We're not worthy of their divine contribution.
It's refreshing with such clarity and honesty.

You're right, you're not worthy of any divine contribution. So live out your life in the bliss of ignorance of what a useless and disgusting species we all belong to.
I'm curious, you keep saying that humanity is such a horrible species. Well compared to what?

We have no knowledge of any other advanced civilization. We have no idea how these other civilizations behave. The problems we struggle with could be those all civilizations struggle with. My point is that you can't possibly know that humans are the single worst species in the galaxy.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
So live out your life in the bliss of ignorance of what a useless and sigusting species we all belong to.
Right, because humanity has no potential whatsoever. It's not like we've changed from monkeys running away from sabretigers to the dominant and world-shaping species on the planet. We haven't developed any forms of art or culture. It's not like we've conquered any infectious diseases already or reached the moon. Wait...

Call me an optimist but humanity is far from done. Looking back at our development so far, we can conclude that there is a lot ahead of us. Medical knowledge alone doubles every six years. Science races along faster than ever. Sure, the world as we've shaped it is not perfect but we are progressing. And honestly, the potential that humanity as a species has, hasn't been reached. Not by a long shot.

At least that's how I feel and why I have a problem with people that go around damning our entire species because it's cool and edgy.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
So you just sit around and give people advice on how they could change things"? That doesn't help anyone, especially since your advice is most likely horrible. And it's funny that you say nobody follows your advice, when you probably don't even follow it.
Oh no, quite the contrary. I give very profound and useful advice that would benefit everyone. You see, im obnoxiously intelligent which means I have a way of seeing things in ways that most people miss.

It's just that I don't see any viable reason to use any sort of potential I might have in order to help mankind. The way I see it our kind has already had way too much help from extraordinary people, but still the species refuse to change for the better.

Internet Kraken said:
Oh and there's no reason to help anyone because it won't change anything? That's exactly why you people will be the death of humans. You don't think helping anyone does anything. If everyone who thought like that actually got up and helped someone, the world would be a better place.
No, we won't be the death of humans because we don't kill other people as arbitrarily as the rest of you do. My kind will just sit and watch and probably get a good laugh or two from it before we die ourselves.

Oh, and the kind of advice you just gave, it's very much along the lines which I dish out every day. Ways to make the world a better place. But I don't expect anyone to listen. I guess im a little more disillusioned than you are. : )
 

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"Help, bullies are attacking me!"
"We're sorry m'am, we're to busy scratching our buts and doing nothing. Call again later. Buh bye."
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Internet Kraken said:
So you just sit around and give people advice on how they could change things"? That doesn't help anyone, especially since your advice is most likely horrible. And it's funny that you say nobody follows your advice, when you probably don't even follow it.
Oh no, quite the contrary. I give very profound and useful advice that would benefit everyone. You see, im obnoxiously intelligent which means I have a way of seeing things in ways that most people miss.

It's just that I don't see any viable reason to use any sort of potential I might have in order to help mankind. The way I see it our kind has already had way too much help from extraordinary people, but still the species refuse to change for the better.

Internet Kraken said:
Oh and there's no reason to help anyone because it won't change anything? That's exactly why you people will be the death of humans. You don't think helping anyone does anything. If everyone who thought like that actually got up and helped someone, the world would be a better place.
No, we won't be the death of humans because we don't kill other people as arbitrarily as the rest of you do. My kind will just sit and watch and probably get a good laugh or two from it before we die ourselves.

Oh, and the kind of advice you just gave, it's very much along the lines which I dish out every day. Ways to make the world a better place. But I don't expect anyone to listen. I guess im a little more disillusioned than you are. : )
You've just reinforced the stereotype that every pessimist is a pretentious asshole.

You're not obnoxiously intelligent. You just have a massive ego. You're the type of person that think that if they were in charge the world would be a far better place. You think that you know more than everyone else. Well I didn't expect you to admit that the advice you dish out is horrible. But if you think you're so great, than solve this problem.

The fish population in many popular commercial fishing areas are declining. Efforts have been made to stop overfishing, but they always fail due to the industries need to meet the global demand for fish. How would you solve this problem?
 

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Skeleon said:
Right, because humanity has no potential whatsoever. It's not like we've changed from monkeys running away from sabretigers to the dominant and world-shaping species on the planet. We haven't developed any forms of art or culture. It's not like we've conquered any infectious diseases already or reached the moon. Wait...
And still, with all this potential, the human species still does most things out of rather primitive motivations. Like fucking and killing, thinking out even more ingenious ways of killing etc.

Sorry, but art, culture, limited space travel and medicinal science doesn't weigh up for the rest of the shit that mankind is responsible for.

Which of course, means that im pising all over some of the very things I indulge in myself. But it doesn't matter. I don't create my own art to entertain others, I just do it because it's something to spend time on.

Skeleon said:
Call me an optimist but humanity is far from done. Looking back at our development so far, we can conclude that there is a lot ahead of us. Medical knowledge alone doubles every six years. Science races along faster than ever. Sure, the world as we've shaped it is not perfect but we are progressing. And honestly, the potential that humanity as a species has, hasn't been reached. Not by a long shot.
I haven't claimed that mankind lacks potential. It's just that the majority of humans prefer to just piss all that potental away on trivial things like war, political ideals and other ego-centric behaviour.

As far as im concerned, mankind doesn't deserve this potential, and the sooner it kills itself by nucelar war, the better.

Skeleon said:
At least that's how I feel and why I have a problem with people that go around damning our entire species because it's cool and edgy.
Tell me about it. Posers like the ones you mention are so obnoxious...
 
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Perhaps we'd feel better if the media was forced to be equally positive and negative.

On the topic of the "we should die/no we shouldn't" fight, I genuinely am not fond of humanity, but that still won't stop me from trying to improve it into something I can be fond of.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
And still, with all this potential, the human species still does most things out of rather primitive motivations. Like fucking and killing, thinking out even more ingenious ways of killing etc.
Then you are blind, nothing more to it than that.
Let me say it with Samwise's words: There is good in the world.
There are ethical values the majority of people adhere to, not because of fear of punishment, but because of an inner conviction based on their upbringing. I guess you see the world through a filter if people killing and fucking is all you see.
And what's wrong with fucking, anyway?

I haven't claimed that mankind lacks potential. It's just that the majority of humans prefer to just piss all that potental away on trivial things like war, political ideals and other ego-centric behaviour.
Bah, if anybody is ego-centric, it's people like you.
I disagree with a lot of political desicisions of course, but one also has to acknowledge the importance of nations to create communities for people to (more or less) safely live in. Sure, I'd prefer one global federal state of peace. But the fact that it isn't here yet is no reason to just give up, sit down and wait for the end. If anything, it's a reason to contribute and stand for your ideals. I'm not adept in politics but I can still help society with my specific set of skills.

As far as im concerned, mankind doesn't deserve this potential...
Meh. I don't believe in any higher power that could grant or take away anything. We have potential, as we as a species have shown time and time again. That's all that matters now.

Tell me about it. Posers like the ones you mention are so obnoxious...
Of course, you're the real deal.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
You've just reinforced the stereotype that every pessimist is a pretentious asshole.
Im not a pessimist.

Internet Kraken said:
You're not obnoxiously intelligent. You just have a massive ego.
Oh yes I am. But the fact that you dislike me will make it pretty hard to prove it to you. Then there's the fact that I don't really care what you believe of me. You're just human refuse anyway. I care about your opinions of me as much as I care about what a dogturd on the ground thinks of me.

Like I said: "speck of bio matter". That's all you will ever be in my eyes. The same goes for myself of course. Just because im in intelligent, it doesn't give me any larger inherent worth.

This of course disproves of your claims that I have a massive ego. Egomaniacs usually have extremely high opinions of themselves. Im indifferent towards both you and myself.

Internet Kraken said:
You're the type of person that think that if they were in charge the world would be a far better place.
Of course it would. If I was in charge, human beings wouldn't exist for much longer.

Internet Kraken said:
You think that you know more than everyone else.
I don't think I do. I KNOW I do.


Internet Kraken said:
Well I didn't expect you to admit that the advice you dish out is horrible.
Perhaps you should inspect the advice before commenting on them? So far you haven't heard much of the advice Iäve given yet you assume that it is horrible. Are you prejudiced?

Internet Kraken said:
But if you think you're so great, than solve this problem.
I have said no such thing. You just assume that I have a higher opinion of myself than anyone else.

Internet Kraken said:
The fish population in many popular commercial fishing areas are declining. Efforts have been made to stop overfishing, but they always fail due to the industries need to meet the global demand for fish. How would you solve this problem?
I wouldn't. It's just fish. Species come and go and will continue to do so for as long as life exists...
 

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In response to everyone calling the police lazy arseholes, all I'll say is this:

You know that scene in Hot Fuzz where Simon Pegg says 'Besides, we've got a hell of a lot of paperwork to do'?

It's like that. The amount of paperwork needed for a broken window is a bit less than the amount needed for a murder. Paperwork takes up a lot of the police's time and is a big reason why cops aren't always available.

Internet Kraken said:
My point is that every time something bad happens, you all go "oh humanity we sucks. We should all kill ourselves". Yet whenever we do something good everyone just goes "oh, well that's cool I guess". Humans do things that are both good and bad, but it seems like nobody remembers this. All they remember is the bad.
I have to also agree with this.

Also, if people believe humanity should be wiped out, why do people frown upon serial killers and political figures who have performed mass genocide in the past?
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Internet Kraken said:
The fish population in many popular commercial fishing areas are declining. Efforts have been made to stop overfishing, but they always fail due to the industries need to meet the global demand for fish. How would you solve this problem?
I wouldn't. It's just fish. Species come and go and will continue to do so for as long as life exists...
WOW

I mean, just wow. I don't even have to bother responding to anything you said about being intelligent, because what you just said proves you're not intelligent. You obviously know nothing about the world and the environment if you think we can just let such a massive species die, especially when it's a species that is one of our major sources of food.

If we followed the advice you gave, we would have exhausted our supply of fish by now, leading to the starvation of millions of humans and animals.
 

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I couldn't find anything to do with this, and felt that I should inform you all of this. This article frankly shocked and disgusted me.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/09/19/ignore-them-115875-21684829/
Sorry to say I cannot get the damn article to pull up. (I'm on my work lappy and it's being shitty as always.)

Judging by the context of the other posts. I can say this sometimes. sometimes. All other cars really are busy. Now there is a priority scale. For example you could be writing a speeding ticket and they make a cackle (slang for 'calling all cars'). Guess what? That guy gets a warning and you're out of there like a rocket.

Now, someone saying 'im going to kill myself' is actually fairly high on the priority scale and unless this part of England (again sorry couldn't read the article) is rural and only has two cops or something that is pretty damn inexcusable.

Also, don't blame the cops that you see on the street emergency operators talk to dispatch and dispatch decides what is and isn't a priority these are people you as a civilian will probably never see.

Don't lump the entire police force together their are different people don't different jobs. I don't know how england works but here 911 operators and dispatch AREN'T EVEN ACTUALLY POLICE.
 

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Zombie_Fish said:
In response to everyone calling the police lazy arseholes, all I'll say is this:

You know that scene in Hot Fuzz where Simon Pegg says 'Besides, we've got a hell of a lot of paperwork to do'?

It's like that. The amount of paperwork needed for a broken window is a bit less than the amount needed for a murder.
This is actually very close to the truth.
 

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Then you are blind, nothing more to it than that.
Let me say it with Samwise's words: There is good in the world.
I hope you realize the irony of quoting a piece of romantic fiction in order to try and prove the inherent positive aspects of the real world?

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There are ethical values the majority of people adhere to, not because of fear of punishment, but because of an inner conviction based on their upbringing. I guess you see the world through a filter if people killing and fucking is all you see.
Or it is you who see the world through a filter of romantic idealism. I guess we'll never know who's actually right.

One thing is for certain though. I didn't choose my outlook on humanity, it's an involontary result of knowing too much.

romantic idealism on the other hand tend to be something that people choose to believe in and cling desperately too in order to just go on living, least they become crushed under the burden of knowing too much.

Kind of speaks for my argument a little.

Skeleon said:
And what's wrong with fucking, anyway?
Plenty. It is the leading cause of over-crowding, sexual neurosis, feelings of inadequacy, pointless competition etc.

Some even goes to such great lengths as to hold sex being the real reason why wars are fought. But personally I think that's a bit of a stretch. Still it is the leading cause of many ailments common in any society. Ailments no one would have to suffer if mankind wasn't driven by such primitive impulses.

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Bah, if anybody is ego-centric, it's people like you.
I disagree with a lot of political desicisions of course, but one also has to acknowledge the importance of nations to create communities for people to (more or less) safely live in. Sure, I'd prefer one global federal state of peace. But the fact that it isn't here yet is no reason to just give up, sit down and wait for the end. If anything, it's a reason to contribute and stand for your ideals. I'm not adept in politics but I can still help society with my specific set of skills.
Yes, a global federal state of peace would be ideal and a testament which might prove mankind worth the effort. But such a state will never exist. Mainly because one of mans favourite pastime is waging wars over such trivial things as political ideals. In a world where both capitalism and socialism exists, there will never be ONE state. And the battle between the two is unending, and unfortunately we don't have any Ozymandias or Dr Manhattan who can pull our leaders heads out of their assholes and force them to being peaceful and cooperating with eachother.

Skeleon said:
Meh. I don't believe in any higher power that could grant or take away anything. We have potential, as we as a species have shown time and time again. That's all that matters now.
I don't believe in a higher power either. It's just that this species have had this potential for so many centuries yet still it acts barbaric and primitive. It's just not worth the effort.


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Of course, you're the real deal.
Yup. Sad, but ture...
 

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WOW

I mean, just wow. I don't even have to bother responding to anything you said about being intelligent, because what you just said proves you're not intelligent. You obviously know nothing about the world and the environment if you think we can just let such a massive species die, especially when it's a species that is one of our major sources of food.

If we followed the advice you gave, we would have exhausted our supply of fish by now, leading to the starvation of millions of humans and animals.
Clearly you are not a very good student of natural history, since you clearly have no idea how large species have become extinct even long before mankind even existed. Some by disease, some by natural disasters and some by the very fact that another species was a bit too successful in hunting them as food.

And yes, mankind might starve to death as a result. But what does that matter? We're just a species of creatures just like any other. If it's our time to go, then it's our time to go.

Or did you have some sort of intended criteria in my efforts to save the fish? If so, then please state them before asking me what I would do. If you're gonna ask hypothetical questions then give them some sort of context at least...