Police officer kills two police dogs.

[fix-the-spade]

Personally I'd fire him and ban him from keeping animals.

What are your thoughts?

If he'd done that and not been a policeman he would still be facing criminal charges, it's illegal to leave animals unattended in cars for reasons he has very ably demonstrated.

The fact that he was part of the dog squad makes it worse, he of all people should know better yet he still managed to get two dogs killed without anyone else's help. I doubt he will go to jail over this, but he still deserves to lose his job and get a big ol' fine.

As my mate's (Policeman) dad says "Either be an example or get made one,"

 

[RavingPenguin]

Christ! whats wrong with you people? They were dogs! They weren't even pet dogs. They werent near and dear to anyone. They were tools, used to find drugs and bombs, maybe even attack people, and yet you all say he is the worst kind of man, even going so far as to say he should die. I'll never understand why anti-speceism is so popular. Hes no murderer. Did anyone here consider maybe he did it on accident? Maybe he forgot to open the windows a bit. Maybe he went to get a cup of coffee, got to chatting, and lost track of time. There are a whole host of possibilities, but no-one here considers them.
I think that a suspension is probably right, after all he has cost the police a few hundered dollars and man hours in killing the dogs. He most certainly does not deserve a prison sentence, but a small fine may be in order.

 

[bjj hero]

How long did he left the dogs in the car

I don't know, I guess it will be discussed at trial. This vet who was asked to comment [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8130939.stm] says it needed as little as 10 minutes.

 

[GamerLuck]

Christ! whats wrong with you people? They were dogs! They weren't even pet dogs. They werent near and dear to anyone. They were tools, used to find drugs and bombs, maybe even attack people, and yet you all say he is the worst kind of man, even going so far as to say he should die. I'll never understand why anti-speceism is so popular. Hes no murderer. Did anyone here consider maybe he did it on accident? Maybe he forgot to open the windows a bit. Maybe he went to get a cup of coffee, got to chatting, and lost track of time. There are a whole host of possibilities, but no-one here considers them.
I think that a suspension is probably right, after all he has cost the police a few hundered dollars and man hours in killing the dogs. He most certainly does not deserve a prison sentence, but a small fine may be in order.

Never underestimate peoples affection for animals. and even police dogs have home, usually with thier handlers (here in the US at least, i dont know about other contries) and do end up being family pets.

I swear that after the big Baby-in-a-Car fiasco, a few years back, people would have learned something.

people NEVER learn... especially from each other...

 

[New Troll]

Yes he should be fined for neglegince and probably lose his job too since it was police dogs in question. Doing something so careless makes me believe he doesn't have what it takes to be a police officer, so maybe he'd do better in security or some new field altogether.

And yes I've made mistakes and forgotten stuff, but it's never resulted in a loss of life.

 

[SilentHunter7]

Take him off the K9 squad. Try him for criminal negligence, and any other related charge. If he's found guilty, the police force should take standard actions for any officer convicted of such charges.

No more, no less.

 

[Croaker42]

Don't fire him or put him in jail, just put him in a car on a hot day until he dies.

This will do. It falls under the thought that stupid that hurts another being should be punished by the same kind of act. I don?t think death should be the outcome for the punishment. Death is too easy, leave them a long life to contemplate the scars and disfigurements.

Idiots today lack examples of how not live. That is because stupid is accepted and passed off for unique.

 

[Olfinbedwere]

...........

 

[Golden Gryphon]

I can't see anybody getting anything more than manslaughter if they left a kid in the car and it died so it seems a bit extreme to send him to prison. A suspension sounds about right.

 

[GenHellspawn]

A lot of internet tough guys here.
The guy made a mistake, no doubt about that. Toss him a fine, maybe a good deal of community service and a demotion, but prison and losing his job (which will effectively keep him out of the Police Force for the rest of his life if what my friend, also a Police Officer, said is true)? That's really harsh.

I concur. His abilities as an officer should not be compromised by one tragic mistake. Putting a nonviolent criminal in jail is always stupid, no matter who the perpetrator is.

 

[Erana]

A lot of internet tough guys here.

The guy made a mistake, no doubt about that. Toss him a fine, maybe a good deal of community service and a demotion, but prison and losing his job (which will effectively keep him out of the Police Force for the rest of his life if what my friend, also a Police Officer, said is true)? That's really harsh.

They're dogs guys. They're not human.

Agreed, despite the no firearm thing in England. Every summer they do PSAs about "dont leave your so and so unattended in a hot car", a police officer should be very well aware of these things. Its common sense.

"To err is human, to forgive divine."
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone."
"Some other line about forgiveness."

When you guys come to me and tell me you've never forgotten anything important, I'll consider thinking otherwise but what I see right now are a bunch of flared tempers over someone making a mistake which cost precisely zero humans their lives or wellbeing. Destroying possibly his entire livelihood is extreme to say the least.

And I'd bet £10 of the Queen's finest pound sterling these are the same guys telling us we're too nanny state and too harsh on people as well. Hypocrisy abound.

You know, considering the capabilities and lonjevity of humans versus dogs, I can understand the rational thought behind people valuing the lives of humans over dogs. But how is their suffering any less painful? Dying of heat stroke is a terrible fate, and just because they aren't human doesn't mean that the pain they would have felt was any less than what a human would have felt...
The point made earlier about their expense is also a reason this should effect his job.

 

[johnman]

Well it depends on the circumstance, you cant exactly take police dogs on a stroll though town, but leavng them in the car was a dick move.

 

[DevilSaint44]

He deserves that and much more

 

[tiredinnuendo]

Before I make any sort of call on what I think "should" happen (because I'm sure the world is waiting with baited breath), I'd really need to know, as others have said, how long those dogs were left. If it was one hour, that might be forgivable if stupid. If it was eight, that's negligence in the extreme, and should be treated differently. I don't have enough information here to make an informed statement.

- J

 

[RavingPenguin]

Dogs have mothers too. They weren't a pair of pliers, they were living breathing creatures. If nobody cared about you would it be ok if you were killed? Those beings would've lovingly laid down their lives to protect that man and he left them in a car to die.

There are very few who would care if I died. Mostly immediate family. A dogs mother, though, doesnt care if their pup dies, I have seen wolves eat members of there own pack, and a mother dog go and bury her own pup when it died without second thought and go right back to her other pups.
If we were to carry your beleifes to their logical conclusions, should we not also harbor flys or mosquitos as pets? as they too feel pain and breath. Why dont we all stop eating chicken, as surely putting them to death is wrong too. Nature is unforgiving, and the only reason we have grown soft is because we have eliminated nature from our environments. As short as 50 years ago, if those two dogs had died no-one would have batted an eye. He may have been suspended for monetary reasons but not for killing a few dogs.

 

[Soxafloppin]

Poor dogs but no, he doesnt deserve jail.

 

[Jark212]

PETA is gonna have a field day.

I like dogs better than I like most people...

 

[manaman]

While I do think that leaving to very expensive dogs in a car on a hot summers day is foolish, I'd like to know why exactly he left them in there. Was he just taking a stroll, or did he get called away on something important. Either way he should of been more considerate, but I'd still like to know.

Exactly this could have been a normal thing. Leave the dogs for 10 min while you do a routine thing that does not exactly lend itself to bringing dogs along. Maybe this got out of hand and it ended up taking 2 hours, where even leaving the windows cracked did not help.

It is always possible to invent a scenario where the guilty was not truly guilty. Might not be the case here, but still nobody other then two people so far are willing to give the benefit of the doubt?

I am all for the guy being punished with fines to replace the animals, and extra fines on top of it to knock the stupid out of his head, possibly even being fired - but only if he is actually guilty of gross negligence.

Either way it is his fault the animals died, so he should be replacing them.

 

[Amnestic]

A lot of internet tough guys here.

The guy made a mistake, no doubt about that. Toss him a fine, maybe a good deal of community service and a demotion, but prison and losing his job (which will effectively keep him out of the Police Force for the rest of his life if what my friend, also a Police Officer, said is true)? That's really harsh.

They're dogs guys. They're not human.

Agreed, despite the no firearm thing in England. Every summer they do PSAs about "dont leave your so and so unattended in a hot car", a police officer should be very well aware of these things. Its common sense.

"To err is human, to forgive divine."
"Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone."
"Some other line about forgiveness."

When you guys come to me and tell me you've never forgotten anything important, I'll consider thinking otherwise but what I see right now are a bunch of flared tempers over someone making a mistake which cost precisely zero humans their lives or wellbeing. Destroying possibly his entire livelihood is extreme to say the least.

And I'd bet £10 of the Queen's finest pound sterling these are the same guys telling us we're too nanny state and too harsh on people as well. Hypocrisy abound.

You know, considering the capabilities and lonjevity of humans versus dogs, I can understand the rational thought behind people valuing the lives of humans over dogs. But how is their suffering any less painful? Dying of heat stroke is a terrible fate, and just because they aren't human doesn't mean that the pain they would have felt was any less than what a human would have felt...
The point made earlier about their expense is also a reason this should effect his job.

Their expense would be, feasibly, be covered by his fine and paid back by community service. Shoving him in Prison does bugger all to pay back the expense of the dogs he killed. In fact, it'd serve to deepen the cost because the State would then be paying for him to live in prison as well.

People are treating this like he left his kid in the car. Dogs are not human, and people need to stop pushing their own love for everything cute and fluffy. I do wonder exactly how much they'd care if it was an ugly animal instead.