Politics in the UK

[DraftPickle]

I'm a british Politics student, and after 2 years on the course all I can say is that if anything, a greater understanding of the UK political system just makes me desire anarchy more.

Strangley me too?

What happened to their promise to "modernise" the House of Lords? "Well... that was before we found out how great it was. A hundred and fifty grand for 40 days of work a year, where you can't be fired as long as you turn up once during the whole year!" The problem with Labour is that they are really just Tories. [/quote]

The House of Lords has just seen a revoltuionary vote, they will now all be elected, not appointed, not through hereditary lines, just to keep up to date.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

I'm going to put myself up for election. My polices shall be:

- No, America. We're not helping you again.

- Rape and murder = Life sentances

- Animal abuse = Jail time.

- Complete smoking ban.

- Better pension schemes.

Vote Sparrow! Get a cookie!

Hell, I'd vote for you.

 

[SamuelT]

I'm going to put myself up for election. My polices shall be:

- No, America. We're not helping you again.

- Rape and murder = Life sentances

- Animal abuse = Jail time.

- Complete smoking ban.

- Better pension schemes.

Vote Sparrow! Get a cookie!

Hell, I'd vote for you.

Woah, two votes now. That makes half a chair!

 

[DraftPickle]

This gives me an idea....

 

[asamoah19]

I couldn't care less about who wins the election in the summer, because by then I will have embraced my rights as a European citizen and relocated to a country that isn't full of so much hatred and idiocy.

Bring on the United States of Europe

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

One word. Chernobyl.
If that alone isn't warning enough, how about 9/11 happening with a Reactor this time?

And with that one word, you've proven your ignorance.

Now that's funny, because my uncle, a nuclear safety engineer told me that. But obviously you must be more informed than him.

Big plane with fuel : Impact : Radioactive waste spread across the land. Doesn't even matter if it breaches the reactor, which it's more than capable of doing.

Or we could look into leukemia.

I read a lot of threads and the ones I tend to ignore are the ones where people start with insulting others.

Now if you're going to tell me that Windscale is perfectly safe and perfectly well protected and the radioactive waste is not toxic or transported in rickety trains then fine.

I'll just say that perhaps the power requirements of a modern society would be served better by not having so many corporations that use far more energy than is necessary on things like lighting the sky, bulldozing forests or leaving their air-conditioning on all the time.

 

[Ivan Issaccs]

Go North. Then see.

As someone who catchs trains between Liverpool, Manchester and Nottingham at least once a week I have to say. Their really is nothing wrong with that service.
Theirs nothing else important anywhere north of Liverpool and the Scottish border and you guys have your own parliament. Let them sort it.

 

[DraftPickle]

Go North. Then see.

As someone who catchs trains between Liverpool, Manchester and Nottingham at least once a week I have to say. Their really is nothing wrong with that service.
Theirs nothing else important anywhere north of Liverpool and the Scottish border and you guys have your own parliament. Let them sort it.

Mate it really is I live in Yorkshire and transport here in all forms is wank on a stick.

 

[Naheal]

It's sounding to me like getting out of the US in favor of going to the UK would be a bad idea.

...

You guys want Bush? Free political comedian!

 

[MiserableOldGit]

OK It's about time its said, Labour have done a shit job int he past 3 years admittedly, but the Conservatives/Tories will be much worse, it angers me people who know nothing of British Politics are going to vote for them without knowing anything about them. Fucking David Cameron, I feel real sympathy for his son dying, but considering his politics he can go fuck him self, every Conservative MP I see is a complete nobody, George Osborne etc.
To a certain extent I lvoe my country, I don't want to see it ruined by posh, rich people who no sweet FA about the needs of the country, the only people worse are the BNP.
So I just want to know do other Brits see Britain going even more down the shitter thanks to the Tories?

It's always a bad sign when the favourite to win is waiting for the other side to lose rather than offer a genuinely better alternative. Lets dig up David Lloyd George. Even dead and stinky he'd be a better alternative that the current lot.

 

[delboydel1]

As someone whos not legally allowed to vote yet I try to keep my political views very open. I agree with some parts of each party. For me one of the main problem with parties is that one party thinks of a good policy then they keep hold of it like a nazi hording gold. So other parties can't use this good idea so they have to rack their brains for something else. It goes on and on until the newer parties (Green Party for example) have nothing left to work with. I'd personally love a green britain. But the world doesn't work like that.

We have -
Every other party - Mediokire at best.
BNP - A bag of racists and ex national frontists.

No matter what party you choose its all going to be the same, they'll lack in some sectors and improve on others. Anyway, I'm open to a change in mind.

 

[ReSpawn]

One word. Chernobyl.
If that alone isn't warning enough, how about 9/11 happening with a Reactor this time?

And with that one word, you've proven your ignorance.

Big plane with fuel : Impact : Radioactive waste spread across the land. Doesn't even matter if it breaches the reactor, which it's more than capable of doing.

Wait, wait, wait. Reactor? On a plane? Is this your 9/11 bit?

I don't know what this has to do with the discussion.

Or we could look into leukemia.

...I suppose we could? (The non-sequiturs are getting tiring)

Now if you're going to tell me that Windscale is perfectly safe and perfectly well protected and the radioactive waste is not toxic or transported in rickety trains then fine.

Windscale? *google* Incident in '57? The Windscale fire?

That's all you've got? That's not even remotely addressing what I said! What next, Three Mile Island?

The transport of waste is obviously an issue, but one that can be accomplished safely.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I expect the Conservatives to win, but that's only because I have a deep-seated mistrust and contempt for the people of the world, and expect them to make the worst choice.

Labour is too centrist for my standards, as opposed to how it used to be, but their a damn better choice than David Cameron and his goons. Only Boris Johnson allows me to tolerate the Tories.

Plus, Stephen Fry supports Labour, or is at the very least more inclined towards them, so we should instantly be able to tell which party is the worst.

 

[Zoibie]

I'm a british Politics student, and after 2 years on the course all I can say is that if anything, a greater understanding of the UK political system just makes me desire anarchy more.

Anyway back on topic. Yes, the Conservatives will get in this term. And then they'll eventually grow unpopular, and Labour will get in. Regrettably, it's going to to-and-fro between these two parties until something radical happens.

Hence why, if I were born a couple of momths earlier, I'd be voting for the liberals in the vein attempt at making them a more viable 3rd party and not just one to dump protest votes on.

Meh, as long as we get a United States of Europe soon, I really don't care. I support Labour, more Brown than Blair (who, to be honest, landed Brown in the shizz) and I kinda pity the guy. Plus, he's a safe pair of hands

(Politics student at A-Level right here)

Politics A-level student here too but I'm not sure federalism would work for Europe. If Europe was less diverse then I might be inclined to agree.

And yeah, I too sympathise to some extent with Brown. But then I remember who he chose as SoS for Business...

Politics university student here lol

As previously said, i don't think a federation would quite work due to the language barriers within Europe. Politically, Europe is broadly similar, eastern Europeans tend to be more right wing than western Europeans, but there are no significantly large political differences. Culturally i think Europeans are quite similar, certainly between UK, France, low countries, Germany and Scandinavia. After all, we share a common history. There is however quite a difference when we get to the mediteraian cultures in soutern Italy, Spain and Greece; and the eastern european nations. I think European diversity is signifcant, but manageable. The only real obsticle is the language barrier, and the fact that many Europeans are rather skepical of the EU. Look at how hard it was to push Lisbon through.

How is politics at University? I'm thinking of taking it myself.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

Are you seriously and honestly suggesting that someone is going to fly planes with Nuclear Reactors on them as a Terrorist Event?

No. I'm seriously suggesting that if the Twin Towers couldn't be protected and withstand a plane hitting them, what chance does a Nuclear Reactor have? Think of a ten mile wide fireball that's already been proven to be feasible.

Sorry root, but I have to say you're wrong here. For a start, a fission reactor cannot physically create chain reaction with enough energy to cause a nuclear explosion, as it uses U-235, which is not reactive enough to release sufficent energy to create a nuclear weapon-like effect. Basically, you've not really researched this properly.

Secondly, a nuclear reaction has an excellent chance. It's shielded by several feet of lead and concrete. Bearing in mind that concrete is pretty much impenetrable at that thickness until you start employing specialised bunker-buster munitions, then really, no, you couldn't fly a plane into a reactor to cause much damage. Kill everyone on the plane, disable the reactor and kill most of the people in the reactor, but the reactor itself would shrug off the hit and contrain the radiation.

Thirdly, the Chernobyl incident was caused by such a remarkable chain of concurrent events that, even with the inherent stupidty of a soviet-era system, the flaws inbuilt into the reactor, and the lax safety protoctls, it still took gross stupidity on the part of incompetent managers AND inadequate safety precautions to cause the incident.

Even then, only a few hundred people died. More people die from coal power every year.

 

[Deviluk]

Some people on here who are saying they're going to vote conservative sound like they really want more extreme policies in place, but it'll just be marginally different, I think. Its a GLOBAL recession, not something someone can do on their own. Otherwise Obama would've done it. I wouldn't vote Conservative because of their absurd patriotism rather than logic. The euro is worth a lot, the EU main players like Germany and France are on the economical upturn, and you torries think we should turn our back on these guys?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Sorry root, but I have to say you're wrong here... Basically, you've not really researched this properly.

Wasn't me who researched it. It was a combination of my Uncle (Safety Inspector at Dounray) and a number of people involved in the findings at 9/11. Perfectly feasible to drop a plane onto a reactor and it'd be like an air-fuel explosive going off. Twelve feet of concrete wouldn't stop it.

If you want to make it more powerful, then there's a number of ways of increasing the force.

Equally you could do it to the Watford Gap or the Hoover Dam to shut down most of that countries welfare; but the media scare from radiation does terror's work far more effectively.

 

[sneakypenguin]

snip nuke stuff.

not to mention isn't most of the actual reactor below ground level?

 

[GBlair88]

OK It's about time its said, Labour have done a shit job int he past 3 years admittedly, but the Conservatives/Tories will be much worse, it angers me people who know nothing of British Politics are going to vote for them without knowing anything about them. Fucking David Cameron, I feel real sympathy for his son dying, but considering his politics he can go fuck him self, every Conservative MP I see is a complete nobody, George Osborne etc.
To a certain extent I lvoe my country, I don't want to see it ruined by posh, rich people who no sweet FA about the needs of the country, the only people worse are the BNP.
So I just want to know do other Brits see Britain going even more down the shitter thanks to the Tories?

Labour, Tories, doesn't matter now Brown has handed the UK over to Brussels.

 

[Samson5090]

As long as the BMP dont get voted in i dont really care and havn't cared for a good while now....mainly because im 16