Poll: 12 year old girl wins case against dear old Dad for grounding...

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Originengel

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Well thinking on it more, it does really threaten her Growth and Development...

Into a Internet Predatoree. I just wish the judge had a Darwin Award happen to him. :|

^ Mean of me, but true..
 

Azazcyh

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Wow I looked at the poll count and every body sided with the dad at least people on the escapist are still sane...

Or at least sane enough
 

Gaz_mcMillan

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Ok, so you are saying that a girl sued hear dad for grounding her. If that is the case it bloody stupid thing to do if your dad grounds you.
 

Originengel

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Not just suing for grounding, suing for being grounded for posting inappropriate pictures on the internet at the age of 12. Then not only that, winning the case on the grounds of not allowing adequate ability of Growth and Development.
 

NeoAC

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And this is why I hate kids today. They think they can do anything they want, and not get punished, and the law will give it to them. I mean, what kind of lesson is this? Is this kid gonna get busted for speeding, get fined, and then say she shouldn't have to pay it because getting to the beauty salon was "very important to her?" This is absolutely ridiculous, and if I was the father, I would be appealing this sucker too.
 

heliosa

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* Makes Roamin shocked face* ............ I knew the world was full of bloody idiots but...... ****!


Trace2010 said:
YuheJi said:
It should be the parent's job to discipline the child for wrongdoing. She obviously broke a rule, so dad should be able to punish her (well, not physical punishment, of course). It reminds me of parents who complain and argue with teachers simply because their child didn't do well enough to pass the class. There are obviously exceptions, but for the most part it should not happen.
Just what I said before (and I will post this as many times as possible)-

To think this is what happens with the global education system every single day.

Teacher tells student what assignment/behavior/guidelines to do...
Student doesn't want to do assignment/behavior/guidelines...
Teacher calls parent...parent is "unavailable"...student knows this...
Student doesn't do assignment/behavior/procedure/guideline...
Teacher lowers student's grade or writes office referral (depending on situation)...
Student complains to parents...
Parents come back to teacher....
Teacher relents or Administration changes student's grade (or rebukes teacher's referral because parents- who are unavailable- were not contacted before referral was written)...

Student learns that classroom guidelines are a joke...administrators don't understand why students are being referred to office...
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happens in my spanish class. I feel sorry for my teacher, she really doesn't deserve to put up with the bs that goes on there.
 

Trace2010

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heliosa said:
* Makes Roamin shocked face* ............ I knew the world was full of bloody idiots but...... ****!


Trace2010 said:
YuheJi said:
It should be the parent's job to discipline the child for wrongdoing. She obviously broke a rule, so dad should be able to punish her (well, not physical punishment, of course). It reminds me of parents who complain and argue with teachers simply because their child didn't do well enough to pass the class. There are obviously exceptions, but for the most part it should not happen.
Just what I said before (and I will post this as many times as possible)-

To think this is what happens with the global education system every single day.

Teacher tells student what assignment/behavior/guidelines to do...
Student doesn't want to do assignment/behavior/guidelines...
Teacher calls parent...parent is "unavailable"...student knows this...
Student doesn't do assignment/behavior/procedure/guideline...
Teacher lowers student's grade or writes office referral (depending on situation)...
Student complains to parents...
Parents come back to teacher....
Teacher relents or Administration changes student's grade (or rebukes teacher's referral because parents- who are unavailable- were not contacted before referral was written)...

Student learns that classroom guidelines are a joke...administrators don't understand why students are being referred to office...
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happens in my spanish class. I feel sorry for my teacher, she really doesn't deserve to put up with the bs that goes on there.
I think we should start charging babysitting fees for use of our Alternative and In School Suspension rooms. If we started hitting the pocketbooks, then parents would have to face facts.
 

SnowCold

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Even though it dumb to go (and win) in court for that, you guys aren't really listening to the full story, so don't just say she is some spoiled brat before knowing WHY she did that
 

Originengel

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Trace2010 said:
heliosa said:
* Makes Roamin shocked face* ............ I knew the world was full of bloody idiots but...... ****!


Trace2010 said:
YuheJi said:
It should be the parent's job to discipline the child for wrongdoing. She obviously broke a rule, so dad should be able to punish her (well, not physical punishment, of course). It reminds me of parents who complain and argue with teachers simply because their child didn't do well enough to pass the class. There are obviously exceptions, but for the most part it should not happen.
Just what I said before (and I will post this as many times as possible)-

To think this is what happens with the global education system every single day.

Teacher tells student what assignment/behavior/guidelines to do...
Student doesn't want to do assignment/behavior/guidelines...
Teacher calls parent...parent is "unavailable"...student knows this...
Student doesn't do assignment/behavior/procedure/guideline...
Teacher lowers student's grade or writes office referral (depending on situation)...
Student complains to parents...
Parents come back to teacher....
Teacher relents or Administration changes student's grade (or rebukes teacher's referral because parents- who are unavailable- were not contacted before referral was written)...

Student learns that classroom guidelines are a joke...administrators don't understand why students are being referred to office...
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happens in my spanish class. I feel sorry for my teacher, she really doesn't deserve to put up with the bs that goes on there.
I think we should start charging babysitting fees for use of our Alternative and In School Suspension rooms. If we started hitting the pocketbooks, then parents would have to face facts.
I can however sense more suing out of that on the basis of free education, no cost. :|
 

Originengel

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SnowCold said:
Even though it dumb to go (and win) in court for that, you guys aren't really listening to the full story, so don't just say she is some spoiled brat before knowing WHY she did that
The full story has come out more and more, the internet issue was found out to be that she was posting inappropriate pictures on the internet, dad banned the site, she went around back to said site. Got grounded...
 

cathou

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stinkychops said:
Wow, guess he has to divorce his daughter now.
no need, the mother have full custody of the girl now, and the judge said that since she was living with her mother now, the mother have the full power to decide to ground her or not in the future
 

Originengel

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stinkychops said:
cathou said:
stinkychops said:
Wow, guess he has to divorce his daughter now.
no need, the mother have full custody of the girl now, and the judge said that since she was living with her mother now, the mother have the full power to decide to ground her or not in the future
Wow, where'd you read that the article I read was about two paragraphs. I wonder if he was upset, she didn't exactly sound like a good daughter but I'd imagine he'd still want to see her.
The article linked to another article which details even more on the case. I.E. Why the grounding took place, and also why the Father was well within his rights.
 

cathou

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Originengel said:
stinkychops said:
cathou said:
stinkychops said:
Wow, guess he has to divorce his daughter now.
no need, the mother have full custody of the girl now, and the judge said that since she was living with her mother now, the mother have the full power to decide to ground her or not in the future
Wow, where'd you read that the article I read was about two paragraphs. I wonder if he was upset, she didn't exactly sound like a good daughter but I'd imagine he'd still want to see her.
The article linked to another article which details even more on the case. I.E. Why the grounding took place, and also why the Father was well within his rights.
true but no it's not what i've looked. since i'm a "crazy half-french/half-canadians" i had access to several other news source. they talked about it a lot this week on tv...
 

Trace2010

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Originengel said:
Trace2010 said:
heliosa said:
* Makes Roamin shocked face* ............ I knew the world was full of bloody idiots but...... ****!


Trace2010 said:
YuheJi said:
It should be the parent's job to discipline the child for wrongdoing. She obviously broke a rule, so dad should be able to punish her (well, not physical punishment, of course). It reminds me of parents who complain and argue with teachers simply because their child didn't do well enough to pass the class. There are obviously exceptions, but for the most part it should not happen.
Just what I said before (and I will post this as many times as possible)-

To think this is what happens with the global education system every single day.

Teacher tells student what assignment/behavior/guidelines to do...
Student doesn't want to do assignment/behavior/guidelines...
Teacher calls parent...parent is "unavailable"...student knows this...
Student doesn't do assignment/behavior/procedure/guideline...
Teacher lowers student's grade or writes office referral (depending on situation)...
Student complains to parents...
Parents come back to teacher....
Teacher relents or Administration changes student's grade (or rebukes teacher's referral because parents- who are unavailable- were not contacted before referral was written)...

Student learns that classroom guidelines are a joke...administrators don't understand why students are being referred to office...
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happens in my spanish class. I feel sorry for my teacher, she really doesn't deserve to put up with the bs that goes on there.
I think we should start charging babysitting fees for use of our Alternative and In School Suspension rooms. If we started hitting the pocketbooks, then parents would have to face facts.
I can however sense more suing out of that on the basis of free education, no cost. :|
Well, after one kid in community college wrote the paper threatening to sue the school district he graduated from because "he should have been prepared to pass into an upper level reading/english/math course with a high school [college prep] diploma" and wasn't because he was too stupid to learn the material the first time *when it was free, I kind of felt that justice was indeed served in this case.

Sorry, but I have heard every administrative mantra about teachers "being held accountable"...followed by their silly ideas on how to teach without requiring discipline in behavior from the student.
 

Trace2010

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cathou said:
Originengel said:
stinkychops said:
cathou said:
stinkychops said:
Wow, guess he has to divorce his daughter now.
no need, the mother have full custody of the girl now, and the judge said that since she was living with her mother now, the mother have the full power to decide to ground her or not in the future
Wow, where'd you read that the article I read was about two paragraphs. I wonder if he was upset, she didn't exactly sound like a good daughter but I'd imagine he'd still want to see her.
The article linked to another article which details even more on the case. I.E. Why the grounding took place, and also why the Father was well within his rights.
true but no it's not what i've looked. since i'm a "crazy half-french/half-canadians" i had access to several other news source. they talked about it a lot this week on tv...
Any updates not in the article you can clue us in on...?
 

Trace2010

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SnowCold said:
Even though it dumb to go (and win) in court for that, you guys aren't really listening to the full story, so don't just say she is some spoiled brat before knowing WHY she did that
Check the links within the story--America just had a 14 year old commit suicide on this very issue...sorry, dad was in the right here.