Poll: Abortion : Should men get a say?

[Epitome]

Okay so my friend(male) has been going out with another friend of mine (female) for over 18 months now, both are over the legal age of consent and they frequently have sex and are an exclusive couple. About a week ago my female friend was telling me she was 2 weeks late and was freaking out, anyway she told him and he freaked.

Anyway what ended up happening it was a scare and all is well(ish) now, but the problem arose. He is in college at the minute and is finacially commited to that for he next couple years at least and she is the same. She happens to be pro-life though and would not have an abortion if it was needed, he did not want anyone having his kid, but couldnt be happy knowing he was a father(which was why he was against the adoption choice). Fortunately the situation diffused itself but it did get me thinking, contraception was used in this case it just failed so neither parent had the intention of having kids, but should a man be forced to become a father because the woman does not want to give up the child?

Now i can see how you cant force a woman to an abortion clinic it would be barbaric, but the only alternative i could think of would be that if the man did not want it the woman should have the choice to have the abortion or have all legal ties to father removed and the birth cert make no mention of him and maybe a gag order on revealing the fathers name to child. Anyway this thread is for me to get a feel on public opinion on the matter because if the situation happened to me i not sure how i would react, i know the men are supposed to be supportive but i really really wouldnt want to be a 20 year old father?

EDIT: I also got thinking, anybody ever heard of the crazy women, the kind who lie about taking contraception in order to trap a man with a child for 18 years? does this kind of pregnacy deserve to be looked at differantly or is it still the same situation? To me i would see that as some sort of crime, guys definaly should have some way out there.

 

[Agrael]

Well, I do know about the problem.

Yes, the man should have a say, but it does have but.

When the woman's blood type doesn't allow abortions (infertility may follow).

 

[Pandalisk]

The man has a say? no no more like like he is an advisor, in the end the woman will do what she wants, you just get to offer and opinion and hop to god she agrees with you.

 

[El Poncho]

I think men should have a say but I guess it depends on the situation.

 

[New Troll]

A man should have a say not to have an abortion, but if he's just not man enough to be a father to his child, that's no excuse to force an abortion. Female always has more say than the male either way since it is her body.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Early terms yes a father should get a say, in case they made a mistake like they were drunk or such.

My opinion: If a women wants an abortion she should be able to get one, at any time. If a man wants her to get an abortion and she doesn't wish to.. Then the choice should be in favor of the man as long as it is early on.

 

[Doug]

I ultimately don't think that the man should have a legally binding say in the matter; primarily because he's not the one who has to endure the pregnancy, nor is he the one who's body will be changed by the experience. Further, I can see a legally binding power being abused, especially in the case of a couple or marriage break up.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

the part of me that doesn't want a kid says yes, but the part of me who doesn't want to go to jail for domestic violence says no. As you said, it's inhumane to force some woman into an abortion clinic. I guess the only solution would be if the man wants an abortion and the woman refuses, she becomes completely responsible as the legal provider for the child.

 

[Ancientgamer]

Half and half, completely.

 

[velcthulhu]

The woman should have more say, because she's the one doing all the work. Therefore, she should win in the case that both of them disagree. Therefore, the man should have no legal say in it. If the couple is still together, they should talk with each other and reach an agreement, and if they're not, the man should get no say whatsoever, because he's not going to be the one to deal with the consequences.

 

[Golden Gryphon]

Obviously he should have some say and the woman should take his desires into consideration but ultimately she is the one that will have to make the choice.

In that particular situation? I dunno. If they were going to split up then as long as he has no legal responsibilities it seems like it would be ok.

 

[Epitome]

The woman should have more say, because she's the one doing all the work. Therefore, she should win in the case that both of them disagree. Therefore, the man should have no legal say in it. If the couple is still together, they should talk with each other and reach an agreement, and if they're not, the man should get no say whatsoever, because he's not going to be the one to deal with the consequences.

No consequences, cant just cover your ears and make funny noises till the kid goes away, your financialy responsible (at least in part) for that kid till he reaches 18, it will cost you so much if she demands child support for the kid you didnt want?

 

[Dave In A Cape]

If they are a couple then yes the man should get a say, but if not then no, its not the man who is gonna give birth to the child and raise it and such.

 

[Desert Tiger]

It's a conundrum.

My take is that until the baby develops a brain, it's a part of the woman's body... other than that, it can only really be handled case by case.

 

[AngloDoom]

Sorry, but the woman has to do it. It's a firm 'no' from me. People can die giving birth, if the woman's not comfortable with having a child it's her choice and if she does want a child then you can't stop her and shouldn't be able to. She can't expect the man to provide for the child, however, if that's the case. I'd argue he should since it is his child too, but I don't have that much faith in human nature.

 

[Xero Scythe]

or you could just, you know, NOT DO IT! don't you just love novel ideas? (actually, i am suprised not to have seen this idea in the thread yet.)

 

[-616-]

The woman should have more say, because she's the one doing all the work. Therefore, she should win in the case that both of them disagree. Therefore, the man should have no legal say in it. If the couple is still together, they should talk with each other and reach an agreement, and if they're not, the man should get no say whatsoever, because he's not going to be the one to deal with the consequences.

The way I see it too.